What about console players? Have you forgotten about us?

balltongue_ · April 2019

Just watched ESO Live and saw the Logs feature coming update 22. As expected logs will only work on PC and I understand that in the way it’s made it’s hard to save log files and upload them to another service.

But the gap of min/max features for end game PVE players on console vs PC are getting bigger and bigger. We know that we won’t get add-ons to console, but a PVE combat metric built in the game by you guys for only PC players bothers me a lot! There are many small changes that could be made to make end game PVE for console players more fun! Like making the UI customizable.

Is it really nessesary to see all permanent buffs if I want to track my spectral bow? The buffs are so small and when things are getting added and removed it gets cluttered and hard to see the things that’s relevant. If we could enable and disable the buffs we want that would be great, if we could move the buff indicators around that would be even better and if we could adjust the size of them, well that would be like a dream come true.

And the ability to see some kind of combat metric would be amazing. No need to see the entire group, but please give us something. We are not satisfied with getting text search in guild stores sorry.

Monte_Cristo · April 2019

Who are console?

Tasear · April 2019

😓 might save you from some of toxicity.

Davor · April 2019

*edit Read question wrong.

Jolipinator · April 2019

Shush. Don't complain or they'll make us queue.

Koolio · April 2019

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

Who are console?

The ones who don’t have to worry about steam/epic store dilemmas

acw37162 · April 2019

For the love of god 5 year anniversary 4 on console and I still can’t assign actions on my controller from the in game UI.

I am not sure how much more tired I can be of the interact and jump button being mapped together especially when mounted, nothing like expecting to jump running at full speed on your mount only to collect a random insect part!

SanguineMyBrother · April 2019

I'm not broken hearted over it.

mairwen85 · April 2019

5k crowns and it could be. Just putting it out there...

geonsocal · April 2019

Bekkael · April 2019

acw37162 wrote: »

I am not sure how much more tired I can be of the interact and jump button being mapped together especially when mounted, nothing like expecting to jump running at full speed on your mount only to collect a random insect part!

😂 I totally feel your pain, friend. I sometimes wonder just how many more things they can pile onto the A button on Xbox.

Imperial_Voice · April 2019

Koolio wrote: »

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

Who are console?

The ones who don’t have to worry about steam/epic store dilemmas

Sooooo everyone who downloads eso from its site?

Nemesis7884 · April 2019

What is this... "console"... you are talking about sir?

Toc de Malsvi · April 2019

acw37162 wrote: »

For the love of god 5 year anniversary 4 on console and I still can’t assign actions on my controller from the in game UI.

I am not sure how much more tired I can be of the interact and jump button being mapped together especially when mounted, nothing like expecting to jump running at full speed on your mount only to collect a random insect part!

I use an Elite and swapped to layout B just so Interact wouldn't be tied to jump.

Toc de Malsvi · April 2019

Yeah, there are a ton of quality of life improvements that should have been added to console a long time ago.

ZarkingFrued · April 2019

Just give us some add ons. Something

Heady · April 2019

Imperial_Voice wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

Who are console?

The ones who don’t have to worry about steam/epic store dilemmas

Sooooo everyone who downloads eso from its site?

we the smart people

MaxJrFTW · April 2019

You should have seen it coming. Hordes of console players have switched to pc because it is flat out better. MMORPGs are not meant to be played on console.

Siohwenoeht · April 2019

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

You should have seen it coming. Hoards of console players have switched to pc because it is flat out better. MMORPGs are not meant to be played on console.

Your cite on "hoards" that have switched? I play at non-prime times due to work on xbna and everywhere I go is highly populated, with the exception of some of the out of the way zones.

I have more consistent service if the forums are to be believed, very few times have I experienced longer loading screens than 1 minute, and yes I have been timing them lately due again to posts on the forum.

I think if we as players are going to help this game grow more this whole PC vs console "stuff" needs to stop. It's not as if console gets different or lesser content than PC. It's all the same except for PC add-ons.

I personally wouldn't use them but why shouldn't we at least have them? Unfortunately I don't think Zos is the hold up. Microsoft and Sony are quite picky about letting anything on to their platforms that isn't vetted by their own people. Just look at the difference between mods for Skyrim and fallout 4 from xb1 to PS4.

Sony won't allow external assets on to the platform and that, in my opinion, is why neither console has add-ons. Can you imagine the uproar if Microsoft said "go ahead!" and Sony said "sorry, not going to happen"?

FierceSam · April 2019

I just started playing with a PS4 controller and using the console interface. It’s really nice - way cleaner than the PC interface. But it doesn’t integrate with any add ons. So I totally agree with OP.

There’s a whole lot of very basic tools that need to be made integral to this game - mini map, some kind of basic info display, combat metrics of some kind etc. It’s a double pain that when these are introduced, it’s done in a way that ignores consoles.

Whether we want invasive tools that let other players see our data (like the loot peaker) is another matter altogether. The trick will be in how people use it and the conventions that arise form their use. ie don’t whisper me in the middle of a trial about a drop I got which I may not even have looked at because that’s just rude.

AbysmalGhul · April 2019

I prefer not to have a combat metrics or an equipment viewer. I like to keep the levels of toxic to a minimum....

randomkeyhits · April 2019

If they can offer mods for skyrim on consoles then there is no reason they cannot do it for ESO.

A curated selection, they don't even have to be taken from the mod community. They can be ZOS's own take on the ones they want to give out.

The only caveat I would suggest is that for any combat metric it only ever gives your own performance against the total. As soon as you allow player A to see exactly what player B and C are doing then the toxic stuff creeps in pretty fast.

Heimpai · April 2019

Koolio wrote: »

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

Who are console?

The ones who don’t have to worry about steam/epic store dilemmas

I’d rather have that than have console dilemmas

Destyran · April 2019

Bekkael wrote: »

acw37162 wrote: »

I am not sure how much more tired I can be of the interact and jump button being mapped together especially when mounted, nothing like expecting to jump running at full speed on your mount only to collect a random insect part!

😂 I totally feel your pain, friend. I sometimes wonder just how many more things they can pile onto the A button on Xbox.

[A] should be the ultimate button I’ll happily press lb and rb to jump I put my spammables on the lb rb to aim as a magplar while jabbing etc and I’m sooo sick of ulti going off

supaskrub · April 2019

balltongue_ wrote: »

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And the ability to see some kind of combat metric would be amazing. No need to see the entire group, but please give us something. We are not satisfied with getting text search in guild stores sorry.

Combat metrics for console is actually an on-going project under development, it was mentioned briefly at one of the Elsweyr meetings, but don't expect it anytime soon as I'm guessing it will be in next years major QoL update.

LordLomax · April 2019

Especially considering console outnumber pc players 3 to 1 ?

Dark_Lord_Kuro · April 2019

I'd be ok with add on on one condition
You cant see my loot
You cant see my equipment
You cant see my dps/heal
And more than anything no add on to prevent attack from stealth and such

TequilaFire · April 2019

I am glad the invasive logs aren't coming to console.

Silver_Strider · April 2019

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

I'd be ok with add on on one condition
You cant see my loot
You cant see my equipment
You cant see my dps/heal
And more than anything no add on to prevent attack from stealth and such

"Can I have that Relequien Dagger?
You already have 2 axes and don't need it. Besides, my DPS is already higher than yours is so I should have it since it'll help me more than you."
/sarcasm

The entitlement of those types of people just makes me want to vomit honestly. Parasites, the lot of them.

Defilted · April 2019

acw37162 wrote: »

For the love of god 5 year anniversary 4 on console and I still can’t assign actions on my controller from the in game UI.

I am not sure how much more tired I can be of the interact and jump button being mapped together especially when mounted, nothing like expecting to jump running at full speed on your mount only to collect a random insect part!

Xbox here.

My jump button is on right stick. Changed it in the game menu. Got tired of stealing while jumping. There are a few controller options that might help you.

balltongue_ · April 2019

Just to clearify, I’m not interested in seeing other peoples dps! Because of the discussion on the log feature that pc will get and the stuff people are saying about why they changed the dps feature ESO had before (because of toxicity) I think and hope that they change it. Make it some kind of opt-in feature and try to avoid all kind of toxicity.

If the dps parse resault that you get in chat after you kill a dummy was expandable and there was a way to see detailed stats, like uptimes, procs and dps breakdown I would be happy. The feature should be used as self improvement not to have reason to kick people!

If ESO+ and the game cost is the same I believe that core features made from the game developer should be the same. If there’s an add-on that’s used by a lot of people I think it should be added to the game (like text search in guild stores).

supaskrub wrote: »

Combat metrics for console is actually an on-going project under development, it was mentioned briefly at one of the Elsweyr meetings, but don't expect it anytime soon as I'm guessing it will be in next years major QoL update.

Do you have a link to this? I really hope they are working on it!