snarkomatic wrote: »

This is what MMO people I enjoy. This is why we I play these games. (.../...) Progress is achieved when you are I am better than you were I was the day before. That's where satisfaction lies for me.

Fixed that for you.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

snarkomatic wrote: »

This is what MMO people I enjoy. This is why we I play these games. (.../...) Progress is achieved when you are I am better than you were I was the day before. That's where satisfaction lies for me.

Fixed that for you.

I mean, fair point, I guess? But in the context, I would argue, my version is more accurate. You're ignoring what I replied to, which was a big load of "you have no life if you do hard stuff" from someone who seems very offended by people who have accomplished hard things telling him it is in fact possible to accomplish those hard things .. while also having "a life", however one might choose to define that.

Also, btw, please don't take out of context what I said about progress, because it began with "Don't compare yourself to other people; only compare yourself to yourself." That is, in fact, the best way to achieve self-satisfaction. Be proud of your own accomplishments, don't be fussed worrying about everyone else's, and you will feel much more confident in your own progress.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

snarkomatic wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

snarkomatic wrote: »

This is what MMO people I enjoy. This is why we I play these games. (.../...) Progress is achieved when you are I am better than you were I was the day before. That's where satisfaction lies for me.

Fixed that for you.

I mean, fair point, I guess? But in the context, I would argue, my version is more accurate. You're ignoring what I replied to, which was a big load of "you have no life if you do hard stuff" from someone who seems very offended by people who have accomplished hard things telling him it is in fact possible to accomplish those hard things .. while also having "a life", however one might choose to define that.

Also, btw, please don't take out of context what I said about progress, because it began with "Don't compare yourself to other people; only compare yourself to yourself." That is, in fact, the best way to achieve self-satisfaction. Be proud of your own accomplishments, don't be fussed worrying about everyone else's, and you will feel much more confident in your own progress.

I'm not "taking this out of context", you're generalizing. There's nothing wrong with wanting to progress and get better in a game, and more generally, to "compare yourself only to yourself" and all this stuff you're saying. The problem is the generalization you seem to make 1/ to everyone and 2/ to every aspect of life.
Many people, in this game, in any game, in other situations, or in life in general, don't want to "get better", don't seek measurement, judgement or evaluation, positive or negative. Some people try to know more, to suffer less, to love more, to get richer, and that's 4 things out of potential millions. Don't assume the reasons why people play an MMO, and respect their reasons even if you don't know them and even if they're miles away from yours.
That's all I meant.

I totally respect different playstyles and priorities, and you're right, I should have said "MMO progression people" instead of MMO people as a whole. I was just focused on the subject at hand in the context of the post.

However, I don't think the second part needs any context to be true. If you only compare yourself to yourself, then it doesn't matter what your reason for playing is, if that's picking flowers then you're comparing to the number of flowers you picked yesterday, or the number of varieties of species, or whatever. It's all about prioritizing your own goals and being content with those, rather than stressing about how it compares to anyone else's chosen goal.

And maybe you're right that not everyone needs any comparison at all (though I would argue it's more nuanced than that, and that human psychology demands comparison of some sort, always) ... but the person I was talking to obviously does a lot of comparing themselves to others. It was personalized advice.