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Has anyone thought about this?

KhajiitFelix
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Necromancer can use his own synergies, right? Just imagine alkosh uptime on Necro tank since he can use his own synergies, or even a mag necro with moondancer.

Rip warden off tank meta?
  • Runefang
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    And rip the one mag sorc who is allowed on score runs.
  • InvictusApollo
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    Necromancer can use his own synergies, right? Just imagine alkosh uptime on Necro tank since he can use his own synergies, or even a mag necro with moondancer.

    Rip warden off tank meta?

    What? Source please. This would be OPAF - espoecially that there is going to be a set that gives 100% Major Brutality uptime by consuming synergies.
  • ManwithBeard9
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    Necromancer can use his own synergies, right? Just imagine alkosh uptime on Necro tank since he can use his own synergies, or even a mag necro with moondancer.

    Rip warden off tank meta?

    What? Source please. This would be OPAF - espoecially that there is going to be a set that gives 100% Major Brutality uptime by consuming synergies.

    It was talked about during the second stream at the PAX East adjacent event. Can confirm necros can use their own synergies. What we dont know is exactly how many and how often. We'll know that in a week or two.
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    Necromancer can use his own synergies, right? Just imagine alkosh uptime on Necro tank since he can use his own synergies, or even a mag necro with moondancer.

    Rip warden off tank meta?

    What? Source please. This would be OPAF - espoecially that there is going to be a set that gives 100% Major Brutality uptime by consuming synergies.

    It was talked about during the second stream at the PAX East adjacent event. Can confirm necros can use their own synergies. What we dont know is exactly how many and how often. We'll know that in a week or two.

    If i remember right, it was a morph of graveyard: their aoe in the same vein as liquid lightning, eruption, etc. So it's one synergy you can use which deals damage and gives a bit of healing, and would have the same 20 sec CD most synergies have.

    So a necromancer using alkosh should be able to attain 40-50% uptime on their own without any outside assistance. 50% is the theoretical max, but most people will get mid low 40s I'm sure. Add in some orbs/shards and you have pretty high uptimes with minor effort.
  • Morgul667
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    Yeah many people have thought about this
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    Runefang wrote: »
    And rip the one mag sorc who is allowed on score runs.

    Why Nightblade are getting their needed nerfs.
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    Somewhere wrote: »
    Necromancer can use his own synergies, right? Just imagine alkosh uptime on Necro tank since he can use his own synergies, or even a mag necro with moondancer.

    Rip warden off tank meta?

    What? Source please. This would be OPAF - espoecially that there is going to be a set that gives 100% Major Brutality uptime by consuming synergies.

    It was talked about during the second stream at the PAX East adjacent event. Can confirm necros can use their own synergies. What we dont know is exactly how many and how often. We'll know that in a week or two.

    If i remember right, it was a morph of graveyard: their aoe in the same vein as liquid lightning, eruption, etc. So it's one synergy you can use which deals damage and gives a bit of healing, and would have the same 20 sec CD most synergies have.

    So a necromancer using alkosh should be able to attain 40-50% uptime on their own without any outside assistance. 50% is the theoretical max, but most people will get mid low 40s I'm sure. Add in some orbs/shards and you have pretty high uptimes with minor effort.

    Can do even better with that set that can practice c own synergy.

    (2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
    (3 items) Adds 4% Healing Taken
    (4 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
    (5 items) When you take damage while you are under 50% Health, summon Ursus’s spirit for 6 seconds at a random group member. You or an ally can activate a synergy on Ursus to grant you a shield that protects you and the activator from 13954 damage for 6 seconds. This effect can occur once every 12 seconds.
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Runefang wrote: »
    And rip the one mag sorc who is allowed on score runs.

    Why Nightblade are getting their needed nerfs.

    Magplar's are currently next in line though, they'll need nerfs too. There will always be a top dog for PvE DPS, because if one class can hit even 500dps more than the rest it'll be the meta. Even if a certain class can have excellent but not the best DPS and a simple rotation, people will ignore it because the perception is that they're weak.

    If ZOS wants to solve the problem they need to provide an incentive to bring DDs from multiple classes despite some not having as good DPS. Better class specific buffs, class based damage dealing synergies, powerful class based damage buffing ultis - these are all potential ways to fix the problem.

    Until then we'll see most of the DDs in score runs come from the current meta class.
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Necro + harmony trait... :worried:
  • Ash_In_My_Sujamma
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    Definitely not p2w class. Oh I am sorry. It's not live yet. I shouldn't be diven to conclusions. But what if nobody says something about it during the pts? Would they release it on live servers? Aren't they slowly filling our cups with p2w tea until we say "when"? I may be wrong but that's how it feels to me.
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    Necromancer can use his own synergies, right? Just imagine alkosh uptime on Necro tank since he can use his own synergies, or even a mag necro with moondancer.

    Rip warden off tank meta?

    What? Source please. This would be OPAF - espoecially that there is going to be a set that gives 100% Major Brutality uptime by consuming synergies.

    I think the new set gives major slayer.
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    Morgul667 wrote: »
    Yeah many people have thought about this

    I don't think ZOS did when they thought using your own synergy was a good idea
  • FleetwoodSmack
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Morgul667 wrote: »
    Yeah many people have thought about this

    I don't think ZOS did when they thought using your own synergy was a good idea

    Or they did because they're terrible players. Hard to say at this point.
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    Isn’t the other morph the one with AOE Major Fracture/Major Breech?

    Seems like a toss up. Use your own synergy or a nice debuff.
    Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.

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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Morgul667 wrote: »
    Yeah many people have thought about this

    I don't think ZOS did when they thought using your own synergy was a good idea

    It also completely defeats the ENTIRE purpose of synergies, which is group play.
  • Zacuel
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    I don't think about much generally...

    How did I get here?
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Morgul667 wrote: »
    Yeah many people have thought about this

    Literally the first five minutes someone thought of this.
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    How about instead of the use your own synergy morph make some kind of stam morph isnt it the only necro ability without one?
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    dazee wrote: »
    How about instead of the use your own synergy morph make some kind of stam morph isnt it the only necro ability without one?

    Give me a stam morph of winter's revenge, eruption, blazing spear, path of darkness and liquid lightning then please.

    If anything needs to change, it is the other morph of the skill, AOE major resistances debuffs is useless compared to hitting your own synergy.
    Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on April 12, 2019 9:50AM
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    Runefang wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Runefang wrote: »
    And rip the one mag sorc who is allowed on score runs.

    Why Nightblade are getting their needed nerfs.

    Magplar's are currently next in line though, they'll need nerfs too. There will always be a top dog for PvE DPS, because if one class can hit even 500dps more than the rest it'll be the meta. Even if a certain class can have excellent but not the best DPS and a simple rotation, people will ignore it because the perception is that they're weak.

    If ZOS wants to solve the problem they need to provide an incentive to bring DDs from multiple classes despite some not having as good DPS. Better class specific buffs, class based damage dealing synergies, powerful class based damage buffing ultis - these are all potential ways to fix the problem.

    Until then we'll see most of the DDs in score runs come from the current meta class.

    Yeah, like for example making engulfing flames damage boost scale with spell damage and magicka, so a MagDK gains relevance 🤔
  • BooPerScOOper
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Morgul667 wrote: »
    Yeah many people have thought about this

    I don't think ZOS did when they thought using your own synergy was a good idea

    Or they did because they're terrible players. Hard to say at this point.

    You got that right
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