Cheated out of event tickets

Bouldercleave · April 2019

yodased wrote: »

Giraffon wrote: »

And why can I only carry 12 tickets? I can put my catapult in my other pocket if that would help.

I'll give you an actual answer from a systems point of view:

It keeps you logging into the game, giving you hoops to jump through to slows your progress. Putting an arbitrary limit on your tickets makes you have to keep thinking about the game and managing inventory at the forefront of your brain.

Even if its negative, if you are thinking about it, you are thinking about it and you are going to more likely to be interact with the situation.

They are not giving us things, they are enticing us to log into the game and they are manipulating the actions and potential feelings of their customers in order to maximize some metric.

It's always to maximize some sort of metric.

FINALLY - a voice of reason. Thank you and have an awesome from me!

Dashmatt · April 2019

I did this in a past event. I opened a support ticket and was told the tickets were forfeit.

It is working as designed. It is a poor design, but it is working.

Saturn · April 2019

Trinity_Is_My_Name wrote: »

Yep, if you had 12 and ate the Cake you lost the two you would have gotten. It's been that way since the beginning so we have to check to be sure to not have 12 when it's time to get 2 more tickets.

On that note if you have 194 Crystals for example and open a reward coffer having more crystals than you can take you will fill up to 200 and the rest are lost. I opened a 50 cyrstal coffer one day and took the contents not realizing I was at 194 already. Lost 46 crystals. Have to keep up on all these things...

It's bad design that we have to make sure, because it's hard to always keep that stuff in mind. In an ideal world, the game would've been programmed in a better way to avoid these issues, like stopping you from opening a crystal coffer if some would be lost because of the cap, or only giving you the "event tickets" taken tick on the cake if you were able to receive them. However, it is ZOS we're talking about. They've left most things poorly designed, and expected players to deal with it or make addons to deal with it.

xan4silkb14_ESO · April 2019

I'm in the camp that it's working as designed and just get over it. The event tickets are limited for a reason. You don't have to like the reason but it exists. It could have been worse. They could have the event tickets expire at the end of every event.

Hippie4927 · April 2019

I have ingrained it in my brain that the first thing I do everyday, after logging in and loading my character, is to check the currency inventory to see how many event tickets I have and how many transmute crystals I have. That way I don't open anything that I will regret. I am 70 years old........if I can remember this so can other people. lol

Icy_Waffles · April 2019

Cheated? Haha no...

User error. Take responsibility for your own failure.

kmcaj · April 2019

Just buy it like ZOS intended

Dragonnord · April 2019

Trinity_Is_My_Name wrote: »

Yep, if you had 12 and ate the Cake you lost the two you would have gotten. It's been that way since the beginning so we have to check to be sure to not have 12 when it's time to get 2 more tickets.

On that note if you have 194 Crystals for example and open a reward coffer having more crystals than you can take you will fill up to 200 and the rest are lost. I opened a 50 cyrstal coffer one day and took the contents not realizing I was at 194 already. Lost 46 crystals. Have to keep up on all these things...

However, if you already have 200 crystals you'll get a message saying you are full and the crystals box won't open (so you don't lose the crystals inside).

supaskrub · April 2019

Thats not a bug, you in effect hoarded tickets until you were maxed out, you ate the cake for the first time and received nothing because you were maxed capped, the cap is low for an obvious reason.. ie use them. You were not cheated.

mystkldrgnb14_ESO · April 2019

tinythinker wrote: »

Sorry you missed those tickets.

To the broader issue:

If it is working as intended, it will keep working this way so it would help to let people know this is the case to avoid such things in the future. Maybe a dev post or a mention in the article for the next event.

They have - multiple times - all you gotta do is read the news articles about the events that are given to you in the launcher when they are posted to the website.

I mean what do you want them to point out that's special - "Hey guys - if you look there's a cap. Guess what. If you try to get more than the cap you can't... cuz that's the cap." This is the definition of a limit "cap" to something.

But they have talked about it in those articles - reminded people that there's a 12 ticket cap to be sure and spend your tickets so you don't lose any. More than once.

Can't protect people from every mistake they might make.

It sucks - and I wish you could like - file a bug ticket (or hey try anyway!) and just let them know what you did and if they can replace the two that are gone. Worth a shot.

I know they are replacing tickets of those people who actually had their cake slice bug and didn't give them 2 tickets. Maybe you'll get a nice DM who will do it.

LiquidPony · April 2019

Giraffon wrote: »

rynth wrote: »

Blaming others on your own failure to pay attention.

Oh come on people. Why would you rally around such a ridiculous mechanic? How would you like it if you went to pick up that veteran monster helm but your pack was full so it vanished?

That has, in fact, happened to me. Because everyone left the group and I got ported out of the dungeon before I could clear inventory spots to pick it up.

Red_Feather · April 2019

There isn't stuff for me to get. I got all the feathers, the berry and style pages.

Neoealth · April 2019

People have such trouble managing their tickets for some reason. Not to be an arse about it, but It's always been quite straight forward to me. Just takes a bit of thought and planning and you can get everything you want.

It's unfortunate you lost 2 tickets though op. But I'd hardly go as far to say you were "cheated" just take some responsibility. You cheated yourself for not paying attention.

Ashtaris · April 2019

I guess what the OP is trying to say, and I agree, that it really wouldn’t be that hard for ZOS to protect us from our inattentiveness. It really wouldn’t be that hard to look at your total, check what you are about to get, and if it’s over the cap, give you a warning that allows you to back out. It really is about lazy coding and the overall user interface/experience.

SeaGtGruff · April 2019

On the day you went from 8/12 tickets to 10/12 tickets, you could have used 10 tickets to buy a feather, a berry, or two style pages-- or 5 tickets to buy one style page-- but for whatever reason, you chose not to.

On the day you went from 10/12 tickets to 12/12 tickets, you definitely should have used 10 tickets to buy a feather, a berry, or two style pages-- or 5 tickets to buy one style page-- but again, for whatever reason, you chose not to.

On the day that you logged in and already had 12/12 tickets, you absolutely, positively, most definitely should have run to the Event Merchant before doing anything else and spent 5 or 10 of your tickets-- but again, for whatever reason, you chose not to. Instead, you chose to use the cake and get 2 more tickets that you were unable to pick up.

And then you chose to blame ZOS for the consequences of three consecutive days of bad choices?

Matchimus · April 2019

Let's introduce check boxes for everything we do. That will fix the problem.

Bouldercleave · April 2019

Ashtaris wrote: »

I guess what the OP is trying to say, and I agree, that it really wouldn’t be that hard for ZOS to protect us from our inattentiveness. It really wouldn’t be that hard to look at your total, check what you are about to get, and if it’s over the cap, give you a warning that allows you to back out. It really is about lazy coding and the overall user interface/experience.

I don't want or need ZoS to protect me from my own inattentiveness. That's how you learn to be attentive - by messing up now and again.

I think we all got what the OP was trying to say. He was trying to say that HE screwed up , lost two tickets because HE wasn't paying attention, and SOMEHOW it's all ZoS's fault because they are lazy, incompetent, and don't care enough about their customers to protect themselves from their own stupidity.

Taleof2Cities · April 2019

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Ashtaris wrote: »

I guess what the OP is trying to say, and I agree, that it really wouldn’t be that hard for ZOS to protect us from our inattentiveness. It really wouldn’t be that hard to look at your total, check what you are about to get, and if it’s over the cap, give you a warning that allows you to back out. It really is about lazy coding and the overall user interface/experience.

I don't want or need ZoS to protect me from my own inattentiveness. That's how you learn to be attentive - by messing up now and again.

I think we all got what the OP was trying to say. He was trying to say that HE screwed up , lost two tickets because HE wasn't paying attention, and SOMEHOW it's all ZoS's fault because they are lazy, incompetent, and don't care enough about their customers to protect themselves from their own stupidity.

Looks like someone already posted what I was going to say ...

The next time I craft a CP160 item for a writ turn-in ... gosh darn it it's all ZoS's fault because they are lazy, incompetent, and don't care enough about their customers to protect themselves from their own stupidity. 😉

Bouldercleave · April 2019

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Ashtaris wrote: »

I guess what the OP is trying to say, and I agree, that it really wouldn’t be that hard for ZOS to protect us from our inattentiveness. It really wouldn’t be that hard to look at your total, check what you are about to get, and if it’s over the cap, give you a warning that allows you to back out. It really is about lazy coding and the overall user interface/experience.

I don't want or need ZoS to protect me from my own inattentiveness. That's how you learn to be attentive - by messing up now and again.

I think we all got what the OP was trying to say. He was trying to say that HE screwed up , lost two tickets because HE wasn't paying attention, and SOMEHOW it's all ZoS's fault because they are lazy, incompetent, and don't care enough about their customers to protect themselves from their own stupidity.

Looks like someone already posted what I was going to say ...

The next time I craft a CP160 item for a writ turn-in ... gosh darn it it's all ZoS's fault because they are lazy, incompetent, and don't care enough about their customers to protect themselves from their own stupidity. 😉

Holy crap - did you and I actually just agree on something? Did we just become best friends?!?

bearbelly · April 2019

So you clicked on the memento to "use" the cake.
Did you then turn around and click on the cake sitting on the table?

The very first time I "used" the cake, I assumed (incorrectly) that simply clicking on the memento would grant the tickets.
It does not.
I didn't notice that a cake on a table had spawned behind me, and I ran off without seeing it; hence, no tickets for me.

It wasn't until I logged in with another character later that same day, but in a different, less congested area, that I noticed the cake on a table spawn behind me when I clicked on the memento to get the XP boost. THAT'S when I realized that you have to click on that cake that spawns on a table after you click the memento. (I also got the two tickets at that time, since I didn't properly complete the action the first time.)

Clicking on the memento alone (like you do with similar event mementos) doesn't complete the "transaction."

Androconium · April 2019

Bouldercleave wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

Giraffon wrote: »

And why can I only carry 12 tickets? I can put my catapult in my other pocket if that would help.

I'll give you an actual answer from a systems point of view:

It keeps you logging into the game, giving you hoops to jump through to slows your progress. Putting an arbitrary limit on your tickets makes you have to keep thinking about the game and managing inventory at the forefront of your brain.

Even if its negative, if you are thinking about it, you are thinking about it and you are going to more likely to be interact with the situation.

They are not giving us things, they are enticing us to log into the game and they are manipulating the actions and potential feelings of their customers in order to maximize some metric.

It's always to maximize some sort of metric.

FINALLY - a voice of reason. Thank you and have an awesome from me!

If you look carefully, you will see that every fresh change is about slowing your progress and keeping you engaged.

The metric in question is ESO+ renewals.

The downside is that it's draining all the fun out of this

SeaGtGruff · April 2019

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

The next time I craft a CP160 item for a writ turn-in

I've done that! But it wasn't as bad as the time I was going to do an Enchanting Master Writ with my one and only Hakeijo rune, except when I crafted the requested glyph the game didn't acknowledge that I'd completed the writ-- because I stupidly made it the wrong color! I promptly deconstructed the incorrect glyph, but naturally I didn't get my Hakeijo rune back from it, so I had to go running from guild trader to guild trader to find another one at a decent price.

Ashtaris · April 2019

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Ashtaris wrote: »

I guess what the OP is trying to say, and I agree, that it really wouldn’t be that hard for ZOS to protect us from our inattentiveness. It really wouldn’t be that hard to look at your total, check what you are about to get, and if it’s over the cap, give you a warning that allows you to back out. It really is about lazy coding and the overall user interface/experience.

I don't want or need ZoS to protect me from my own inattentiveness. That's how you learn to be attentive - by messing up now and again.

I think we all got what the OP was trying to say. He was trying to say that HE screwed up , lost two tickets because HE wasn't paying attention, and SOMEHOW it's all ZoS's fault because they are lazy, incompetent, and don't care enough about their customers to protect themselves from their own stupidity.

You might not want ZOS to protect you from your inattentiveness, that’s OK. But would it really be that bad if they did? It would probably take 20 lines of code or less for them to do a simple if/then type of comparison to give you an option of a way out. Again, it’s all about the user experience, and one of the main reasons we have so many add-on’s, because the UI is a mess.

SaintSubwayy · April 2019

It works similar as the transmutation geodes / cristally do...so dont come here saying its a bug, when the exact same thing is already in the game and works like it was intended.

yes, they could have made the cake smart enough to recognize that you already have 11 or 12 Tickets, and generate a message that you will waste tickets if you use the cake before spending.
But why should they make a smart cake, when you arent even smart enough to check your tickets / keep track of them.
Rule of thumb...I have 10 Tickets, Im gona spend them ASAP.

Michae · April 2019

Yeah, it sucks.
Yeah, they could've made it better.
Yeah, the cap is low.
But no, it's not a bug.
And...
Yeah, you could've paid more attention.

TempPlayer · April 2019

That remind me of a story.
"Oh no," said Hansel, "I don't think I have enough pebbles for the trip through the forest with the evil step-mother tomorrow."
"Don't worry," said Gretel, "I will go and gather some more." And she come back with 10 more pebbles and shove them into Hansel's pocket.
"NO WAIT! I can only hold 3 more!" Shouted Hansel. But before he can finish the sentence, the remaining 7 pebbles instantly collapse into a singularity and thus forming a blackhole, killing everyone in its vicinity, even the cannibalistic witch who live way off in the forest. Happy ending.

Moral of the story? Don't do drug......
I mean, check your inventory before opening/activating/consuming something.

D0PAMINE · April 2019

I keep getting tickets and I don't want them

SydneyGrey · April 2019

I just did this by accident just ten minutes ago.
I was doing last-minute crafting writs and decided to use the cake, forgetting that's what gives us the event tickets. I was at 12/12. I just lost two tickets for the day.

ARGH!!!

Fluke.Slywalker · April 2019

It's a bit of a tight mechanic, but it adds the element of ticket/purchase management across the events, I guises that was the intention.

It also prevents people from farming a bucket-load of tickets and then just buying a bunch of whatever may come out in the future, I mean they are selling these for crowns... I highly doubt that was a snap decision, they knew full well what would happen from he off $$.

You weren't cheated out of these tickets, you just didn't do, what you had to do. Likely you just forgot you already had 12 and ate some cake without thinking. Which is an honest mistake, by you, not the game lol.

carlos424 · April 2019

VexingArcanist wrote: »

It is bad coding, pure and simple. Don't tell me this was a design intention. It's ineptitude that hasn't been corrected due to laziness, time better spent reskinning ponies than correcting ineptitude.

Who’s “laziness” and “ineptitude” are we talking about?