The Only Thing That Will Make me Quit ESO

Illuvatarr · April 2019

I hope the developers read this as I am positive thousands of other players feel the exact same way I do about this issue.

I can deal with class imbalance. It happens in every game. You can approach balance but you will never achieve it. I get that. It’s frustrating. It can make you log out. It can make you take a break. It won’t make you quit. *** happens.

I can deal with population imbalance in pvp. This too is frustrating. You get served down by players not as good as you. You get zerged down by players better than you. You are fighting a 1v 1 and a bow ganker shows up and snipes you and ruins it. Perhaps an *** player makes it his mission to try and ruin your gaming experience (and others) by doing 3 am raids for emperor. That’s the nature of a pvp game. *** happens.

I can deal with toxic pvp players. They accuse you of cheating. They log on to their characters in another faction to Target you specifically. Log out and come back to play. *** happens.

I can deal with a lot of things. Fortunately I am decently well to do in rl and I can purchase the things/items I want in game and I have done so with my houses and outfits etc. i am happy to do so as I enjoy eso enough to warrant the spend and I want to contribute what I can so it lasts as long as possible. I am sure other 30+ gamers are in the same situation.

What I cannot deal with is *** performance issues. Today on two occasions I came across two seperate nightblade players and mid fight my shields would not work. My heavy overload is bugged so I couldn’t heavy attack. Frags hard casts when you have the instant proc ready. Daedric Tomb is bugged and the ability won’t work some times. I was lagged out on a fairly nice gaming computer due to server side issues and not my own. My abilities would not fire off as quickly as I was depressing the skill and fights I could have won I lost. The most egregious example was a fight where I attempted to activate hardened ward six times and it simply would not cast.

The performance issues are getting old and I am not the only player/customer who feels this way. The game needs to work. It’s been five years since launch.

phaneub17_ESO · April 2019

Name 3 Multiplayer games that you never had any performance issues.

Illuvatarr · April 2019

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Name 3 Multiplayer games that you never had any performance issues.

That’s a fair comment but never to this level. It’s fairly crazy just how many abilities are broken and how badly performance gets when the game is being played like it is supposed to be played.

This wasn’t even in prime time and it was on Sotha Sil, not Vivek.

Davor · April 2019

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Name 3 Multiplayer games that you never had any performance issues.

Not the point is it? Just because other games do it, doesn't make it right. So it's OK if people bully because they do it in other games?

Let's see, Star Trek Online. Path of Exile. Riders of Icarus. All free games to boot as well.

For me, I was about to resub ESO+ but with my heavy attacks not working all the time in PvE, maybe it's time to go without it for now. After all, if not having fun in combat because I can't use an ability because it's bugged no use trying then.

D0PAMINE · April 2019

I agree with OP that it can be extremely frustrating. It's just the way it is though.

Nemesis7884 · April 2019

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Name 3 Multiplayer games that you never had any performance issues.

Pong

Super Mario Kart with split screen on my NES

Naughts & Crosses in Excel

THERE! SEE ESO IS OBVIOUSLY SHEIT

the only thing that makes me quit ESO for a few hundred hours is the release of Elder Scrolls 6 ^^

twev · April 2019

Three things come to mind right away, in no particular order, probably several more in 5 minutes:

The game jumping the shark with lame/inane story lines or newly twisted lore.
Zos continuing to let the game engine fall behind on stats for lag, loading screens, poor performance, keeping the game performance tied to minimum specs akin to DOS machine standards as 'acceptable', and stuff like that. (yeah, I know DOS machine is a reach, but hey, the minimums aren't set that much above DOS as it is.)
Boredom with the genre as time wears it thin.

kargen27 · April 2019

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Name 3 Multiplayer games that you never had any performance issues.

Jacks, marbles and tiddlywinks.

Or were you thinking online?

Mojmir · April 2019

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Name 3 Multiplayer games that you never had any performance issues.

Blackjack,bingo,poker,and i had better luck with those than eso.

russelmmendoza · April 2019

Gta5, warframe and epic the titan br game.

russelmmendoza · April 2019

To op,
Soon the decision will be made for you, look at eu server status, and elsweyr is inbound, meaning more players for eso, add the refugee from other mmo, and we have ourselves a situation.
Read the eu server complains, at least youll know what to expect.

Zardayne · April 2019

Yea the performance issues suck but when I take my rose tinted glasses off, we used to lag like hell in Daoc too during big battles/sieges years ago. I honestly don't think this issue will ever be completely fixed when so many players, abilities, and explosions are taking place in one zone. I'll be hitting harness magica repeatedly and it wont fire off and I'll initially get ticked off but then I realize most everyone else is hammering their abilities without luck too. Makes me feel a little better at least and just go it is what it is..

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · April 2019

so...1 quitter out of 7 mil(zos numbers)...sooo that would be...-15$...yeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhh I think they will manage...btw now that there is a queue for logging in...the less the better eh? >:3

Juhasow · April 2019

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Name 3 Multiplayer games that you never had any performance issues.

Name 3 very high budget , long in development MMORPG games You had similar amount of performance issues like with ESO.

Tigerseye · April 2019

I'm amazed anyone attempts PVP, in this game.

PVE is more than laggy and buggy enough for me, a lot of the time.

Then I also have my own occasional internet issues, on top of that, which always seem to come at the wrong time.

No way would I venture into PVP, here.

I value what's left of my sanity too much.

Zardayne · April 2019

Tigerseye wrote: »

I'm amazed anyone attempts PVP, in this game.

PVE is more than laggy and buggy enough for me, a lot of the time.

Then I also have my own occasional internet issues, on top of that, which always seem to come at the wrong time.

No way would I venture into PVP, here.

I value what's left of my sanity too much.

I hear ya on the sanity part but it's the only RVR MMO currently running with this many active players. Got to get in some siege warfare somewhere lol.

JamieAubrey · April 2019

What will make me quit is adding emotes like dabbing, that gets added I cancel my sub, delete all my chars and never look back

Ankael07 · April 2019

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Name 3 Multiplayer games that you never had any performance issues.

Theyre not gonna pay you anything for defending them. If anything this is a poor excuse to accept bad performance

UntrustedExistenz · April 2019

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

so...1 quitter out of 7 mil(zos numbers)...sooo that would be...-15$...yeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhh I think they will manage...btw now that there is a queue for logging in...the less the better eh? >:3

I know it's not fair, but when someone write post like "unsub, will not play again" I silencly chuckle and talk to myself "goooood, there is more room in que for meeeeee" xD <--- best with Gollum voice

Back to topic. If time of my loading screen will be higher than my playtime I consider quiting. Otherwise I will be in that que! Brace yourselfs, weekend is coming!

AbysmalGhul · April 2019

I'm having the same issues in PVE land. I'm trying to steam roll through VMA for equipment and my bars won't swap or my heals from swallow soul, jabs, power surge are extremely delayed. I'm getting so much delay that I'm actually dead when all the adds are dead. I keep seeing " You cannot complete that action while dead" while I'm clearly alive.... It's infuriating to say the least.

Colecovision · April 2019

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Name 3 Multiplayer games that you never had any performance issues.

Is it your position then that eso is one of the top 3 multiplayer games of all time in terms of performance? That sounds absurd to me. If thats not what you meant, can you name 3 games are better?

OwnerOfSuccuby · April 2019

Illuvatarr wrote: »

I hope the developers read this as I am positive thousands of other players feel the exact same way I do about this issue.

I can deal with class imbalance. It happens in every game. You can approach balance but you will never achieve it. I get that. It’s frustrating. It can make you log out. It can make you take a break. It won’t make you quit. *** happens.

I can deal with population imbalance in pvp. This too is frustrating. You get served down by players not as good as you. You get zerged down by players better than you. You are fighting a 1v 1 and a bow ganker shows up and snipes you and ruins it. Perhaps an *** player makes it his mission to try and ruin your gaming experience (and others) by doing 3 am raids for emperor. That’s the nature of a pvp game. *** happens.

I can deal with toxic pvp players. They accuse you of cheating. They log on to their characters in another faction to Target you specifically. Log out and come back to play. *** happens.

I can deal with a lot of things. Fortunately I am decently well to do in rl and I can purchase the things/items I want in game and I have done so with my houses and outfits etc. i am happy to do so as I enjoy eso enough to warrant the spend and I want to contribute what I can so it lasts as long as possible. I am sure other 30+ gamers are in the same situation.

What I cannot deal with is *** performance issues. Today on two occasions I came across two seperate nightblade players and mid fight my shields would not work. My heavy overload is bugged so I couldn’t heavy attack. Frags hard casts when you have the instant proc ready. Daedric Tomb is bugged and the ability won’t work some times. I was lagged out on a fairly nice gaming computer due to server side issues and not my own. My abilities would not fire off as quickly as I was depressing the skill and fights I could have won I lost. The most egregious example was a fight where I attempted to activate hardened ward six times and it simply would not cast.

The performance issues are getting old and I am not the only player/customer who feels this way. The game needs to work. It’s been five years since launch.

You say that you have problem with players that play not as good as you. I have no problems, only hard lugs in pvp now. Can not use skills and etc.

May be you are not as good as you think?

Yes it is problem, 2 good player always kill 1 good player of the same exp level, but is it wrong.

Why do you think you have to kill raid by you own?

By the way you can if it is weak - nana bomb and etc.

But why do you think you have to kill 12 people that each play better than you alone?

Yes invisiability is some thing i hate too. Rat play and etc. When target become invissible under attack with dots on it is really strange for me. But do not see problem in pvp now. Only in hard lugs, and that skills do not work some times for 1-20 seconds in prime time.

AbysmalGhul · April 2019

OwnerOfSuccuby wrote: »

Illuvatarr wrote: »

I hope the developers read this as I am positive thousands of other players feel the exact same way I do about this issue.

I can deal with class imbalance. It happens in every game. You can approach balance but you will never achieve it. I get that. It’s frustrating. It can make you log out. It can make you take a break. It won’t make you quit. *** happens.

I can deal with population imbalance in pvp. This too is frustrating. You get served down by players not as good as you. You get zerged down by players better than you. You are fighting a 1v 1 and a bow ganker shows up and snipes you and ruins it. Perhaps an *** player makes it his mission to try and ruin your gaming experience (and others) by doing 3 am raids for emperor. That’s the nature of a pvp game. *** happens.

I can deal with toxic pvp players. They accuse you of cheating. They log on to their characters in another faction to Target you specifically. Log out and come back to play. *** happens.

I can deal with a lot of things. Fortunately I am decently well to do in rl and I can purchase the things/items I want in game and I have done so with my houses and outfits etc. i am happy to do so as I enjoy eso enough to warrant the spend and I want to contribute what I can so it lasts as long as possible. I am sure other 30+ gamers are in the same situation.

What I cannot deal with is *** performance issues. Today on two occasions I came across two seperate nightblade players and mid fight my shields would not work. My heavy overload is bugged so I couldn’t heavy attack. Frags hard casts when you have the instant proc ready. Daedric Tomb is bugged and the ability won’t work some times. I was lagged out on a fairly nice gaming computer due to server side issues and not my own. My abilities would not fire off as quickly as I was depressing the skill and fights I could have won I lost. The most egregious example was a fight where I attempted to activate hardened ward six times and it simply would not cast.

The performance issues are getting old and I am not the only player/customer who feels this way. The game needs to work. It’s been five years since launch.

You say that you have problem with players that play not as good as you. I have no problems, only hard lugs in pvp now. Can not use skills and etc.

May be you are not as good as you think?

Yes it is problem, 2 good player always kill 1 good player of the same exp level, but is it wrong.

Why do you think you have to kill raid by you own?

By the way you can if it is weak - nana bomb and etc.

But why do you think you have to kill 12 people that each play better than you alone?

Yes invisiability is some thing i hate too. Rat play and etc. When target become invissible under attack with dots on it is really strange for me. But do not see problem in pvp now. Only in hard lugs, and that skills do not work some times for 1-20 seconds in prime time.

I don't think they were stating that it was a learn to play issue. They were just stating they want to be able to play game without the buggy/laggy performance

bongtokin420insd16 · April 2019

the overload bug omg drives me [snip] nuts.

OwnerOfSuccuby · April 2019

AbysmalGhul wrote: »

OwnerOfSuccuby wrote: »

Illuvatarr wrote: »

I hope the developers read this as I am positive thousands of other players feel the exact same way I do about this issue.

I can deal with class imbalance. It happens in every game. You can approach balance but you will never achieve it. I get that. It’s frustrating. It can make you log out. It can make you take a break. It won’t make you quit. *** happens.

I can deal with population imbalance in pvp. This too is frustrating. You get served down by players not as good as you. You get zerged down by players better than you. You are fighting a 1v 1 and a bow ganker shows up and snipes you and ruins it. Perhaps an *** player makes it his mission to try and ruin your gaming experience (and others) by doing 3 am raids for emperor. That’s the nature of a pvp game. *** happens.

I can deal with toxic pvp players. They accuse you of cheating. They log on to their characters in another faction to Target you specifically. Log out and come back to play. *** happens.

I can deal with a lot of things. Fortunately I am decently well to do in rl and I can purchase the things/items I want in game and I have done so with my houses and outfits etc. i am happy to do so as I enjoy eso enough to warrant the spend and I want to contribute what I can so it lasts as long as possible. I am sure other 30+ gamers are in the same situation.

What I cannot deal with is *** performance issues. Today on two occasions I came across two seperate nightblade players and mid fight my shields would not work. My heavy overload is bugged so I couldn’t heavy attack. Frags hard casts when you have the instant proc ready. Daedric Tomb is bugged and the ability won’t work some times. I was lagged out on a fairly nice gaming computer due to server side issues and not my own. My abilities would not fire off as quickly as I was depressing the skill and fights I could have won I lost. The most egregious example was a fight where I attempted to activate hardened ward six times and it simply would not cast.

The performance issues are getting old and I am not the only player/customer who feels this way. The game needs to work. It’s been five years since launch.

You say that you have problem with players that play not as good as you. I have no problems, only hard lugs in pvp now. Can not use skills and etc.

May be you are not as good as you think?

Yes it is problem, 2 good player always kill 1 good player of the same exp level, but is it wrong.

Why do you think you have to kill raid by you own?

By the way you can if it is weak - nana bomb and etc.

But why do you think you have to kill 12 people that each play better than you alone?

Yes invisiability is some thing i hate too. Rat play and etc. When target become invissible under attack with dots on it is really strange for me. But do not see problem in pvp now. Only in hard lugs, and that skills do not work some times for 1-20 seconds in prime time.

I don't think they were stating that it was a learn to play issue. They were just stating they want to be able to play game without the buggy/laggy performance

Oh sorry than. Lugs are really hard now it is true. A lot of friends stop play TESO too becouse of it - they say: we take a breake untill they fix it.

It is really bad and i hate it too. I am afraid that just start play some other game and will not return. If so may be i even join them.

Alucardo · April 2019

Performance issues are definitely my only true gripe with this game. It sucks that I can't play after 7pm because Cyrodiil is so laggy that you have to mash buttons, and it takes 2 seconds to successfully bar swap.
I was embarrassed to recommend ESO to a friend and he stopped playing a couple of weeks after he hit 160cp because the lag was so terrible in PvP. I'll never do it again until performance is stable.
I complain about it a lot because I do enjoy this game, when it works. I just want it to work more often than not.

phaneub17_ESO · April 2019

Colecovision wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Name 3 Multiplayer games that you never had any performance issues.

Is it your position then that eso is one of the top 3 multiplayer games of all time in terms of performance? That sounds absurd to me. If thats not what you meant, can you name 3 games are better?

I'm saying all games that require a server to run have performance issues, there aren't any that are always going to be smooth playing without any problems.

Rake · April 2019

Things that will make me quit:
1.Queue timers on login
2.Better MMO in the future
3.Boredom at some point
4.Death

ShadowHvo · April 2019

Juhasow wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Name 3 Multiplayer games that you never had any performance issues.

Name 3 very high budget , long in development MMORPG games You had similar amount of performance issues like with ESO.

GW1&2, Tera, BDO, CoH, CoV, DCUO, Champions, Rift, SWTOR, SWG, SWL.

Do you want more, lol?

Knootewoot · April 2019

There are so many things that can make me stop playing ESO. Some temporarily, maybe some permanent. When and how, I don't know.

Jameliel · April 2019

Illuvatarr wrote: »

I hope the developers read this as I am positive thousands of other players feel the exact same way I do about this issue.

I can deal with class imbalance. It happens in every game. You can approach balance but you will never achieve it. I get that. It’s frustrating. It can make you log out. It can make you take a break. It won’t make you quit. *** happens.

I can deal with population imbalance in pvp. This too is frustrating. You get served down by players not as good as you. You get zerged down by players better than you. You are fighting a 1v 1 and a bow ganker shows up and snipes you and ruins it. Perhaps an *** player makes it his mission to try and ruin your gaming experience (and others) by doing 3 am raids for emperor. That’s the nature of a pvp game. *** happens.

I can deal with toxic pvp players. They accuse you of cheating. They log on to their characters in another faction to Target you specifically. Log out and come back to play. *** happens.

I can deal with a lot of things. Fortunately I am decently well to do in rl and I can purchase the things/items I want in game and I have done so with my houses and outfits etc. i am happy to do so as I enjoy eso enough to warrant the spend and I want to contribute what I can so it lasts as long as possible. I am sure other 30+ gamers are in the same situation.

What I cannot deal with is *** performance issues. Today on two occasions I came across two seperate nightblade players and mid fight my shields would not work. My heavy overload is bugged so I couldn’t heavy attack. Frags hard casts when you have the instant proc ready. Daedric Tomb is bugged and the ability won’t work some times. I was lagged out on a fairly nice gaming computer due to server side issues and not my own. My abilities would not fire off as quickly as I was depressing the skill and fights I could have won I lost. The most egregious example was a fight where I attempted to activate hardened ward six times and it simply would not cast.

The performance issues are getting old and I am not the only player/customer who feels this way. The game needs to work. It’s been five years since launch.

You keep paying and they have zero incentive to improve. Period. /