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Am I the only one that actually loathes the twilight/matriarch?

DenMoria
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I'm a sorcerer. I need a tank so that I can spam the enemies from a distance.

They barely notice the twilight and head straight for me and her attack is laughable.

And all that flapping and singing! Sheesh!

Does anybody else actually prefer the clannfear?

I know I do.

What is the big advantage to Miss Flappy Flap anyway?
  • Alienoutlaw
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    the twilight is not a "tanky" pet, its a support (if you have the healing morph) The other morph when proc'd deals more damage to enemies over 55%, the "scamp" has a more direct damage roles and will actively charge at enemies
  • geonsocal
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    the flying mama heals pretty well and adds nicely to the chaos of combat...
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  • DenMoria
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    the twilight is not a "tanky" pet, its a support (if you have the healing morph) The other morph when proc'd deals more damage to enemies over 55%, the "scamp" has a more direct damage roles and will actively charge at enemies

    I think I'll move back to my Clannfear. I have other healing methods, but the 1/3rd works for me and he's awfully tanky.

    I call him Bunny. :)
  • Alienoutlaw
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    power surge is a great healing tool
  • DenMoria
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    the flying mama heals pretty well and adds nicely to the chaos of combat...

    I prefer my combat organized and quiet. :)
  • alenae1b14_ESO
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    Flappy = chaos

    Power surge = calm strength

  • Alienoutlaw
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    combat is never organized and quiet lol the best we can hope for is managed mayhem
  • Starlight_Knight
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    Sorc pets are gross, visually - We are desperate for some nice pet skins for them.
  • alenae1b14_ESO
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    I agree, my meaning is that I prefer not to have the flapping around me along with all the other activity.
  • Kali_Despoine
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    I don't care for the size and AI of the "Flappy"
    I don't like how just one add will wander over to her
    The damage morph is ok at best. I hear immortal in pve now
    Heals are better than breath

    Clanfear sucks unless your lvl 15
    AI is weak

    Scamp is great for damage
    AI works well at best

    I find using boundless + surge + shield will heal me through anything [almost]
    get your crit chance at least to 53+
    Mother Sorrow and thief[?] gives you 60+

    Also I battle on the front lines I don't spam frag from the background
    Ranged will not work as well.
    If boundless can't reach the mob It's not going to crit for you and heal you every second
    Remember w/ Dark Magic passives damage from DM attacks heal and add a grp buff to crit chance
    Edited by Kali_Despoine on April 11, 2019 12:18AM
  • Hippie4927
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    For overworld pve, I only use the clannfear. He is tanky and I can use him for heals. I don't care much for the flappy-bird but use it when necessary for group content.
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  • NinchiTV
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    big advantage is it has a good burst heal, applies concussion, adds constant pressure, gives you 8% more H, gives 20% stam and health recov. Thing that sucks is it takes up space where you could put a more fun ability. Its an easy choice to put matriarch over any other healing ability for sorc but you also have to give up something on your front bar which means magelight (big crit and NB defense) goes bye bye. Or your execute goes bye bye. I;ve grown to appreciate matriarch but i would 100% go back to a time when it wasnt needed.
  • Dithieon
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    I went back to clannfear a long time ago, the matriarch was a real pain. Too much flappy flappy.
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  • Sylvermynx
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    I need both, as my ping is.... beyond mega.... *sigh* I double bar them - even though I can't bar swap due to said ping.
  • redspecter23
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    Sorc pets are an absolute eyesore. The matriarch is far too large and only gets larger when you morph it. It never stops moving even when it's not mobile. I wish we could go back to the days of pets being absolutely useless in combat so that we would never have to look at them again.
  • Zavijah
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    Honestly, the pet models are atrocious.

    Why would I want to look at a s%@ blue monkey, or an oversized low poly count bird that happens to need a bra.

    Why not a Banekin, a Xivkyn, or even a nixad? Pet size limitations the same as non-combat ones should apply.

    There was an absolute a$$hat sorc who placed their Matriarch over Chef Dono-whatever last week and I tore them a new I am surprised there aren't tickets against me.

    If you really wanted to make money, Zos - you'd put new combat skins on the crown store - and even with my s%#( australian ping I'd still accept your subpar service and throw money at you.
  • SirAndy
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    DenMoria wrote: »
    I'm a sorcerer. I need a tank so that I can spam the enemies from a distance.
    They barely notice the twilight and head straight for me and her attack is laughable.
    And all that flapping and singing! Sheesh!
    Does anybody else actually prefer the clannfear?
    I know I do.
    What is the big advantage to Miss Flappy Flap anyway?
    My Pet Sorc runs the Clannfear, i can't stand the Twilight.

    It still does a soft taunt (Even in vet group dungeons *if* you enter solo) which makes solo play so much easier ...
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  • pauli133
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    I prefer no pets at all. I'm looking to play Sorcerer, not Summoner.
  • Maxx7410
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    i hate all pets because they dont let me cast spells and cover the enemies/boss i really dont like them!
    Edited by Maxx7410 on April 11, 2019 2:48AM
  • SpankinDamob
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    I haven’t tested it, but the past two nights I’ve been running the Matriarch instead of the scamp. It seems things die way faster with her. I don’t really ever need her heals since I have power surge running. Doesn’t make since with all she’s doing is light attacks. Rotation with her liquid lighting, L/A, elemental wall, bar swap, L/A, dadreric pray, Hard attack, restart. With the imp had pulse after the bar swap, L/A. This is with doing world bosses, public dungeons, and delves.
  • Bekkael
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    I went from using both pets on my Sorc, to none, and I currently have the Clannfear added back for the heal. Plus, he takes agro off my character so she can quickly kill whatever, which I like.

    I quite enjoyed the Matriarch originally, but running into them EVERYWHERE, with the incessant flappity flapping all over the place has made me heartily dislike them. Warden bear can be a little annoying too with blocking stuff I need to click on, but at least they stand still and don't have a body part waving in my line of sight, which is the main thing that bugs me around crafting areas. I wish all pets unsummoned in cities, but oh well. I'm happy the Necro will not be adding to the permanent summoned pets population.
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  • Linaleah
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    flappy mama heals you, your clanfear and herself. or she heals players around you. clanfear only heals you and itself. she also heals for a LOT more then clanfear does.

    so for group play - you want flappy mama. but for solo? clanfear is just fine.
    dirty worthless casual.
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  • starkerealm
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    The clanfear is a tanking tool. It's very good on a Sorc Tank, but can't help others. The Matriarch is for a sorc healer. It's very good for them, but kinda garbage for a sorc tank.

    So... yeah, I prefer the clanfear. But, that's because I don't have a sorc healer, and do have a sorc tank.
  • siddique
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    I hate matriarch but it is a necessity. In PvP it hits for over 3k with daedric prey. Its heals are a literal lifesaver.

    But I kill them whenever I'm out of combat I can't stand the stupid bird. Especially now that it suddenly pops right on top fo your head whenever you kill something.
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  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    I can't stand twighlights flapping their wings in my face, either my own or other peoples. My Sorcs do fine without them.
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  • dazee
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    I hate it becuase its ugly. only reason.
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  • Alucardo
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    It's funny when you port into a busy town, and during the loading screen you can hear all the pets. But yes, I hate them.
  • Neyane
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    I hate that flappy thing. It’s ugly, it gets in the way when you loot, gets in the way in towns, at the bank, at the crafting stations, at the writ hand ins I could go on....

    I wish that flappy thing didn’t exist, I hate it so very much.
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  • Hand_Bacon
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    Flappy shaming?

    We should really inflate their self esteem instead. Even though this wouldn't mean they would be better, they would think they were better.
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  • ellahellabella
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    I only hate the flappy flaps that belong to afk sorcs blocking the daily crafting writ boxes.
    MOVE IT FLAPPY!!!! D:<
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