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Is my DPS to low ?

david_m_18b16_ESO
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On boss fight I sustein 10-12k dps depending on the lenght of the fight chucking potions every CD and using blood food on maxHP/Mag.

Gear I use legendary law of Julianos (Staff/Chest/Pants/Gloves) with legendary enchants and 5 piece Magus purple with purple enchant. Sadly I still wear weak blue shoulder and head.

  • sudaki_eso
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    10-12k is very low unless you are a tank or healer. So to answer you question: yes
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  • Suddwrath
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    What class/CP are you?
  • VaranisArano
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    10 to 12k is sufficient for comfortably clearing a base game normal dungeon.

    If you want to do harder content, you'll want higher DPS for comfortable clears.

    Personally, I found that practicing a solid rotation for my class made the biggest difference in improving my DPS after I hit CP 300.
  • SaintSubwayy
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    10 to 12k is sufficient for comfortably clearing a base game normal dungeon.

    If you want to do harder content, you'll want higher DPS for comfortable clears.

    Personally, I found that practicing a solid rotation for my class made the biggest difference in improving my DPS after I hit CP 300.

    no offense thou....but you get 8-10k alone when just spamming Lightattacks

    2-4k more means skills are more used periodicly, rather than using skills to deal the majority of the dmg.

    @david_m_18b16_ESO
    If you can give us more information about your build we can certainly double the dmg with little effort
    Class?
    CP, and CP allocation?
    Skills used?
    Attribute allocation?
    weapontraits and enchants?
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  • VaranisArano
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    10 to 12k is sufficient for comfortably clearing a base game normal dungeon.

    If you want to do harder content, you'll want higher DPS for comfortable clears.

    Personally, I found that practicing a solid rotation for my class made the biggest difference in improving my DPS after I hit CP 300.

    no offense thou....but you get 8-10k alone when just spamming Lightattacks

    2-4k more means skills are more used periodicly, rather than using skills to deal the majority of the dmg.

    Sure. But I regularly clear base game normal dungeons with PUG players doing about 10 to 12k DPS. Its not amazing. Its not even good. But I never doubt that we'll clear the content as long as they pay attention if mechanics are required.
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    no offense thou....but you get 8-10k alone when just spamming Lightattacks

    Highly dependent on having the right gear and enough weapon/spell damage. Spamming light attacks without it will hardly do anything.
    Edited by dazee on April 3, 2019 3:31PM
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  • psychotic13
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    On boss fight I sustein 10-12k dps depending on the lenght of the fight chucking potions every CD and using blood food on maxHP/Mag.

    Gear I use legendary law of Julianos (Staff/Chest/Pants/Gloves) with legendary enchants and 5 piece Magus purple with purple enchant. Sadly I still wear weak blue shoulder and head.

    Julianos is a pretty solid set to begin with, but you should switch magnus for something that gives better dps, and is very easy to farm, that being burning spellweave. Farm this from city of ash 1, one of the easiest dungeons.

    Then you want to look at getting a monster set, depending on class some easier to obtain monster helms for magicka are grothdarr (vaults of madness) ilambris (crypt of hearts 1) and valkyn skoria (city of ash 2)

    Use witchmothers for extra recovery

    Will be able to help more if i know your class, current skill set up, CP, Race ect.
    Edited by psychotic13 on April 3, 2019 3:32PM
  • david_m_18b16_ESO
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    SaltySudd wrote: »
    What class/CP are you?

    Sorc
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    link to skill build: https://www.eso-skillfactory.com/en/build-planer/#f2,r8,c2,84:1,86:3,87:2,88:2,89:2,90:2,311:1,313:1,317:1,321:2,487:1,490:1,504:2,512:1,516:1,517:1,525:1,526:2,534:1,538:1,540:1,543:1,546:1,671:1;311:313:490:525:512:487;540:543:516:512:317:671;14;64,0,0;0,0,0;;0,0,0;14,14;

    My CP aren't in the build link but I've followed the alt cast guide on non pet magicka sorc. I'm working on Psijic skill now. I don't have much sorc skill since I have capped almost everythign in every craft.
    Edited by david_m_18b16_ESO on April 3, 2019 4:03PM
  • SaintSubwayy
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    mhhh, well you could try to get in the innerlight skill from magesguild, aswell as meteor on frontbar, for better frontbarstats

    also a source of minor force would help alot, either beasttrap or acceleration...but you'd have to unslot something for those changes...which prob will effect your survivability :/

    yopu can also take the other morph of curse, it will buff the petdmg by quite alot
    Edited by SaintSubwayy on April 3, 2019 4:30PM
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  • Grianasteri
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    On boss fight I sustein 10-12k dps depending on the lenght of the fight chucking potions every CD and using blood food on maxHP/Mag.

    Gear I use legendary law of Julianos (Staff/Chest/Pants/Gloves) with legendary enchants and 5 piece Magus purple with purple enchant. Sadly I still wear weak blue shoulder and head.

    DPS is all relative, what is or is not too low depends on the content and situation. However, in general 10-12k IS NOT LOW.

    The average player rarely does more than 10k dps, that is an important point to take away. This level of dps is absolutely fine for all over land content and normal dungeons. That is the bulk of ESO content covered.

    If you want to improve your dps beyond this in order to tackle harder content, it takes some time and effort. When I started to seek more end game content, vet dungeons, trials etc, that is when I started to pay more attention to my dps and actively looked into improving it. At that point it was generally about 10 - 14k dps depending on character. Through hard work, practice, improving my build, improving my rotation, my best parse is now over 32k dps.

    As you will likely see from this thread, many would argue 32k dps is low, never mind 10k. Because there are super human players doing 60k plus... but they are NOT THE AVERAGE PLAYER, folk with dps in excess of 40k are probably in the top 10%, so comparing ones self to these guys is pointless. This brings me back to the start, its all relative, its dependent on what you want to achieve and get out the game.

    If you are happy with overland story content etc, and normal dungeons etc, then your dps is fine. If you want to run vet dungeons, trials, dlc, etc then its fairly standard to need about 20k dps as a minimum. That can seem unachievable given your current dps, but trust me it isnt, I was where you are, you just need practice and some tweeking with your build and skill rotation. Seek help from a guild, there are plenty of experienced players around who are willing to help. They will make sure you run good sets for your character and help you with your skill rotation.

    Happy gaming.
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    no offense thou....but you get 8-10k alone when just spamming Lightattacks


    Seriously, that simply isnt true for most players.

    An average player can have decent gear, decent build, decent rotation, even including weaving light attacks between skills and still only do around 10k.

  • david_m_18b16_ESO
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    On boss fight I sustein 10-12k dps depending on the lenght of the fight chucking potions every CD and using blood food on maxHP/Mag.

    Gear I use legendary law of Julianos (Staff/Chest/Pants/Gloves) with legendary enchants and 5 piece Magus purple with purple enchant. Sadly I still wear weak blue shoulder and head.

    DPS is all relative, what is or is not too low depends on the content and situation. However, in general 10-12k IS NOT LOW.

    The average player rarely does more than 10k dps, that is an important point to take away. This level of dps is absolutely fine for all over land content and normal dungeons. That is the bulk of ESO content covered.

    ok ty, so I'll work on my monster set and a few items while aquiring more skyshard and I should bump my DPS quite a lot.

    What would be an average number to AIM befoure jumping into veteran ?
  • psychotic13
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    On boss fight I sustein 10-12k dps depending on the lenght of the fight chucking potions every CD and using blood food on maxHP/Mag.

    Gear I use legendary law of Julianos (Staff/Chest/Pants/Gloves) with legendary enchants and 5 piece Magus purple with purple enchant. Sadly I still wear weak blue shoulder and head.

    DPS is all relative, what is or is not too low depends on the content and situation. However, in general 10-12k IS NOT LOW.

    The average player rarely does more than 10k dps, that is an important point to take away. This level of dps is absolutely fine for all over land content and normal dungeons. That is the bulk of ESO content covered.

    ok ty, so I'll work on my monster set and a few items while aquiring more skyshard and I should bump my DPS quite a lot.

    What would be an average number to AIM befoure jumping into veteran ?

    Theres not an answer to that question cause it depends on the dungeon, stay away from DLC dungeons and start with the easier dungeons
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    On boss fight I sustein 10-12k dps depending on the lenght of the fight chucking potions every CD and using blood food on maxHP/Mag.

    Gear I use legendary law of Julianos (Staff/Chest/Pants/Gloves) with legendary enchants and 5 piece Magus purple with purple enchant. Sadly I still wear weak blue shoulder and head.

    DPS is all relative, what is or is not too low depends on the content and situation. However, in general 10-12k IS NOT LOW.

    The average player rarely does more than 10k dps, that is an important point to take away. This level of dps is absolutely fine for all over land content and normal dungeons. That is the bulk of ESO content covered.

    ok ty, so I'll work on my monster set and a few items while aquiring more skyshard and I should bump my DPS quite a lot.

    What would be an average number to AIM befoure jumping into veteran ?

    I would say 15 to 20k DPS for base game Vet dungeons. 15k is on the low end for DPS intensive dungeons like Vet City of Ash 2, but it's doable. Time consuming, but doable.
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    On boss fight I sustein 10-12k dps depending on the lenght of the fight chucking potions every CD and using blood food on maxHP/Mag.

    Gear I use legendary law of Julianos (Staff/Chest/Pants/Gloves) with legendary enchants and 5 piece Magus purple with purple enchant. Sadly I still wear weak blue shoulder and head.

    DPS is all relative, what is or is not too low depends on the content and situation. However, in general 10-12k IS NOT LOW.

    The average player rarely does more than 10k dps, that is an important point to take away. This level of dps is absolutely fine for all over land content and normal dungeons. That is the bulk of ESO content covered.

    ok ty, so I'll work on my monster set and a few items while aquiring more skyshard and I should bump my DPS quite a lot.

    What would be an average number to AIM befoure jumping into veteran ?

    Personally I think 20k is a good number for non-dlc vets. I think that an argument could be made that it isn't an absolute requirement, but it's a decent place to be.
  • GoldenLight
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    I think mine is around there (probably 15k but never checked) but I am a sorcerer class. I can solo most all normal base game dungeons and many veteran base game dungeons.

    I think they should be ok in a dungeon run. It may be they are just not getting blocks off in time or dodge rolling out of danger quick enough to avoid most of the damage.
    Edited by GoldenLight on April 3, 2019 7:05PM
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  • Gretzel
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    10 to 12k is sufficient for comfortably clearing a base game normal dungeon.

    If you want to do harder content, you'll want higher DPS for comfortable clears.

    Personally, I found that practicing a solid rotation for my class made the biggest difference in improving my DPS after I hit CP 300.

    no offense thou....but you get 8-10k alone when just spamming Lightattacks

    2-4k more means skills are more used periodicly, rather than using skills to deal the majority of the dmg.

    Sure. But I regularly clear base game normal dungeons with PUG players doing about 10 to 12k DPS. Its not amazing. Its not even good. But I never doubt that we'll clear the content as long as they pay attention if mechanics are required.

    Ive healed normals with awful pugs who almost exclusively on la. It doesnt really take anything: the dungeon just goes way way slow and its irritating. I have spell defense debuff and a spell critical boost because sorc so its a help.
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  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    10-12K likely means that both your build and/or (likely both) damage rotation are fundamentally flawed. If built correctly, you can beat that with a light attack spam. Not to sound like an ass, but 10K DPS borders on laughable in the current meta. That said, it's were most people start. If you have specific questions regarding your setup, most of us would love to try and help you out. There is no substitute for starting with a proven build (something like Alcasts Website can be hugely helpful) and then spending some time working things out on a dummy.

    Is DPS that low a problem? Well that depends. If you want to get into veteran group content, it will be an issue. If you want to just solo quest and run the occasional normal group dungeon, you will get by just fine.


    no offense thou....but you get 8-10k alone when just spamming Lightattacks


    Seriously, that simply isnt true for most players.

    An average player can have decent gear, decent build, decent rotation, even including weaving light attacks between skills and still only do around 10k.

    What you said also isnt true. If all the above things you mentioned are in fact decent, you will be well north of 20k on any class. If you arent, than at least one of the things you listed aint happening. 99% of the time, it's rotation. Rotation is WAYYYYYYYY more important than gear.

    On boss fight I sustein 10-12k dps depending on the lenght of the fight chucking potions every CD and using blood food on maxHP/Mag.

    Gear I use legendary law of Julianos (Staff/Chest/Pants/Gloves) with legendary enchants and 5 piece Magus purple with purple enchant. Sadly I still wear weak blue shoulder and head.

    DPS is all relative, what is or is not too low depends on the content and situation. However, in general 10-12k IS NOT LOW.

    The average player rarely does more than 10k dps, that is an important point to take away. This level of dps is absolutely fine for all over land content and normal dungeons. That is the bulk of ESO content covered.

    ok ty, so I'll work on my monster set and a few items while aquiring more skyshard and I should bump my DPS quite a lot.

    What would be an average number to AIM befoure jumping into veteran ?

    If you cant pull 20-25k, stay out of vet group finder. Absolutely, most content can be cleared with less, but you are asking for a very rough run most of the time. I would bump that number to 30k for Vet DLC dungeons to be safe. Everyone is going to have a different line on this, but our damage is so high right now that I struggle to believe someone only capable of pulling 15k is also going to be able to follow every mechanic to the letter. Experience has confirmed this belief.
    Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on April 3, 2019 8:39PM
  • T3hasiangod
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    no offense thou....but you get 8-10k alone when just spamming Lightattacks


    Seriously, that simply isnt true for most players.

    An average player can have decent gear, decent build, decent rotation, even including weaving light attacks between skills and still only do around 10k.

    wat

    One bar petsorc can pull 30k easily with base game gear.

    Please do research before making baseless claims.
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  • david_m_18b16_ESO
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    I think that some of you are a little bit over the top with their DPS numbers. I am 100% sure that nobody can hit 10k-12k DPS with the passive I've posted in the link, the gear I've listed and 198CP with only light attacks.

    My DPs rotation might not be perfect but I still keep Curse, liquid lit, blockade up with almost no downtime then I spam Crushing Shock with frag on proc while animation canceling light attack in between every skill cast.

    Sure a tons of player are probably better at it but with the set-up that I have listed I don't believe that anyone hit 12k only weaving light attack.

    Yeah 800CP + 50k mag sorc might be, I have no idea but not lowby like my sorc.

    That or my DPS meter is broken.
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    I think that some of you are a little bit over the top with their DPS numbers. I am 100% sure that nobody can hit 10k-12k DPS with the passive I've posted in the link, the gear I've listed and 198CP with only light attacks.

    My DPs rotation might not be perfect but I still keep Curse, liquid lit, blockade up with almost no downtime then I spam Crushing Shock with frag on proc while animation canceling light attack in between every skill cast.

    Sure a tons of player are probably better at it but with the set-up that I have listed I don't believe that anyone hit 12k only weaving light attack.

    Yeah 800CP + 50k mag sorc might be, I have no idea but not lowby like my sorc.

    That or my DPS meter is broken.

    You can still easily achieve 15k DPS at CP160. Below is a CP160 one bar heavy attack petsorc build using basic gear that is easily obtainable. The armor might be golded out, but gold armor doesn't contribute a ton to DPS. So long as your weapon is golded out, you can use purple armor and jewelry and still see similar numbers. Not to mention you could probably use Necro instead of MS and do a little bit more DPS overall.

    Literally the rotation is 2 active abilities and just Heavy Attacking the whole time. This whole idea that high DPS is unachievable without being max CP or using BiS gear or having all gold gear is a huge misconception.

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  • MartiniDaniels
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    1. get at least cp300, it will be easy with anniversary event XP bonus
    2. replace that magus set with something recommended for your build, probably necropotence set
    3. get grothdarr head piece for monster set, that vet dungeon is doable with your dps, if your group won't be a jerks
    4. try to add light attack before each skill. It's should be nearly always LA->ability, PVE, PVP, overland that's how this game works. You need to do small jerky immediately cancelled light attack before each skill to do any good damage
    5. cancel any long animations with bar swap, that video explains this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SE1jxjAQfE
  • InvictusApollo
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    On boss fight I sustein 10-12k dps depending on the lenght of the fight chucking potions every CD and using blood food on maxHP/Mag.

    Gear I use legendary law of Julianos (Staff/Chest/Pants/Gloves) with legendary enchants and 5 piece Magus purple with purple enchant. Sadly I still wear weak blue shoulder and head.

    I think this is a lot of dps... for Winged Twilight. Mine is doing sth around those numbers. But she is ugly af so if your character is pretty, she can be my new pet.

    I offer 10k Hardened Ward that will keep you alive even on hardest trials. In exchange I expect total obedience, occasional singing and dancing.
  • Kombinator
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    Beside what others told i can only tell, that i can do around 8k.. But i got pure tank gear, and work as tank in dungeons so my dps is not exactly priority. Still here is a single tip, that might be not obvious.

    Between every skill use a basic attack. Nearly 50% of the damage comes from this. Also make sure, that your final ability (the stuff you use when all debuff/buff applied) has the empower effect for extra weapon damage.

    For 2handed for example the wrecking blow is your final skill. When all debuff/buff applied, then you spam that between 2 light attack. It takes more time to cast, than other attacks, but deals more damage, and increases your light attack greatly.
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    no offense thou....but you get 8-10k alone when just spamming Lightattacks


    Seriously, that simply isnt true for most players.

    An average player can have decent gear, decent build, decent rotation, even including weaving light attacks between skills and still only do around 10k.

    wat

    One bar petsorc can pull 30k easily with base game gear.

    Please do research before making baseless claims.

    No, it really cant. That literally cannot get anywhere near 30k, the idea that you can have base game gear and simply put pets out to pull 30k is utterly preposterous and deeply misleading.
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    An average player can have decent gear, decent build, decent rotation, even including weaving light attacks between skills and still only do around 10k.

    My main is a stamDK and i had no clue about builds in the first 4 month i was playing the game, i was just questing through the content and thought my damage is fine. Joined a guild and they asked me to do a dummy parse to see where i am at. And guess what, with no real rotation and a mixed up armour/weapon set (i just used what sounded cool) i was hitting 15k.

    So in my opinion an average player with decent gear and decent rotation should hit at least 20k. OP, can you post a video of your dummy parse? Even with your gear you should be able to hit 20k. I guess there is something wrong with you rotation or use of skills.
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  • Juhasow
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    no offense thou....but you get 8-10k alone when just spamming Lightattacks


    Seriously, that simply isnt true for most players.

    An average player can have decent gear, decent build, decent rotation, even including weaving light attacks between skills and still only do around 10k.

    wat

    One bar petsorc can pull 30k easily with base game gear.

    Please do research before making baseless claims.

    No, it really cant. That literally cannot get anywhere near 30k, the idea that you can have base game gear and simply put pets out to pull 30k is utterly preposterous and deeply misleading.

    Really ? Explain that parse then @Grianasteri. All sets used are from base game here. Necropotence+infallible aether+slimecraw. No back bar used at all , self buffed parse , mostly heavy attack spam. "rotation" that 6 years old kid could master in 15 minutes. You can do that rotation with 1 hand while keeping the cup of tea in other.aeE9jDc.png
    Edited by Juhasow on April 4, 2019 12:34PM
  • Agenericname
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    no offense thou....but you get 8-10k alone when just spamming Lightattacks


    Seriously, that simply isnt true for most players.

    An average player can have decent gear, decent build, decent rotation, even including weaving light attacks between skills and still only do around 10k.

    wat

    One bar petsorc can pull 30k easily with base game gear.

    Please do research before making baseless claims.

    No, it really cant. That literally cannot get anywhere near 30k, the idea that you can have base game gear and simply put pets out to pull 30k is utterly preposterous and deeply misleading.

    I recently did a series of parses for a friend with a one bar set up and another with a second, no maelstrom staff, testing various sets meant to simulate what a newer player might use, i.e. spinners, necro, julianos, mothers sorrow, etc, none of which are trials or even group dungeon sets. The exception was the monster set.

    All of the parses, including the single bar pet, were above 30k. I wouldn't expect someone lower on the CP scale to achieve the same, but it is possible.

    There is a little more to it that simply throwing the pets out and drinking tea, but it's certainly not outside of the realm of possibility. This could easily put the OP well into the numbers they may need for base game vet content.

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    no offense thou....but you get 8-10k alone when just spamming Lightattacks

    Seriously, that simply isnt true for most players.

    An average player can have decent gear, decent build, decent rotation, even including weaving light attacks between skills and still only do around 10k.

    What you said also isnt true. If all the above things you mentioned are in fact decent, you will be well north of 20k on any class. If you arent, than at least one of the things you listed aint happening. 99% of the time, it's rotation. Rotation is WAYYYYYYYY more important than gear.

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    I agree that rotation is one of the most important factors regarding dps, it is rotation and skill selection that took me from 10 - 14k dps to well over 30k.

    I think its easy to get mixed up in semantics, what I deem generally as "decent" you may have a different idea of what this constitutes. To me decent means average, run of the mill.

    To expand on my point, it is the case that the average player, i.e by that we mean the majority of players in ESO, only do around 10k to maybe 15k dps, give or take. This is fairly well established. Many of these average players will already be roughly running a build and rotation taken from a content provider like Alcast or xynode... yet they are still only pulling in around 10k dps. Ive seen an 810 CP players running a build and rotation, STILL only able to pull in 12k+ dps. So it seems fairly clear that it is not easy to do, getting a fast efficient rotation takes time and effort.

    Frankly I get fed up with people on these forums, most of whom will be experienced, higher level players, carping on about how easy it is to hit over 20k dps, or 30k dps, or 40k dps. Folk may mean well but its just not accurate.

    I mean people pretending you can break 10k - 15k just using light attacks, or just using pets, what planet are these folk on? I feel like a lot of folk forget what it was like to be new, to be inexperienced and trying to learn. It was not so long ago I was trying to reach 20k dps and I would see folk saying it was easy and critical if you couldnt etc, how does that make a newer player feel?
    Edited by Grianasteri on April 4, 2019 1:24PM
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    Juhasow wrote: »

    Really ? Explain that parse then @Grianasteri. All sets used are from base game here. Necropotence+infallible aether+slimecraw. No back bar used at all , self buffed parse , mostly heavy attack spam. "rotation" that 6 years old kid could master in 15 minutes. You can do that rotation with 1 hand while keeping the cup of tea in other.aeE9jDc.png

    So clearly that is not just spamming pets is it, which was the claim made. Its using self buffs, its using ultimates, its using heavy attacks, its using other skills.

    About half the damage is coming from elsewhere, not pets. So I rest my case, thanks.

    PS4 players do not have access to such analytics, its not possible for me to check my own or guildies results like that, which is a real shame, I do wish ZOS would sort soemthing out for console players.

    Regards,
    G
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