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Elemental/Crushing Weapon - the hidden feature

InvictusApollo
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To those who didn't know this...
Long story or short story? If you want to read words of some random stranger from another side of the globe, for whom you couldn't care less then read on. Otherwise skip to the bottom of the post to get the info that you worked so hard to get. And by "worked hard" I mean clicking this post. This is something that some of you may have not noticed. The hidden feature of Psijic line spammable. The secret to higher dps, success and happiness in life. Or at least higher dps.
Are you reading this? Are you still reading this? If you do then you either have no respect for your time or are high on anticipation. So let me prolong your suffering by explaining how exactly I found out this feature. I wanted an archer for pvp - a stamina ranged build. But the bow skill line has no spammable. And no! Draining shot is not a spammable! But there is one skill line that has a single ability that most magicka users overlook. The skill that makes your light attacks pack a punch. And guess what? Bow light attacks are ranged!
So I did the quest - the long and boring quest. The quest that is longer and even more boring than my rambling here. And I have unlocked Crushing Weapon skill!
Yes I had it! I had it for my bow... It was horible. No - not the damage. Not the self healing it provided. The animation! I wanted a bow spammable to see my character actually shoot a bow - pull the string and release the arrow like some Robin Hood or certain feminine looking elf. And instead of bow action I got bow rotation! Instead of hardcore pulling I saw gentle bow caress.
But I gave it a try. And bagan the long journey to get Undaunted leveled up. And I kept seeing this bow rotation over and over again. Sometimes without a light attack coming out of my bow. And then I realised...


Animation time of Elemental/Crushing Weapon takes exactly 1 second. 1 SECOND! This means that you can use it to practice your weaving and most importantly the timing of your light attack weaving. Whenever the animation is over do the next LA + Skill. Do it on your skeleton. Do it on your friends skeletons. Do it in pledges and dungeons. And soon you will attain deep understanding of how long one second lasts. And with that power you shall never miss your light attack. It's like a metronome. It will teach you to do your next LA + skill combo, at the right time, exactly when light attack global cooldown finishes. Just look for the moment your bow rotates back. Its a little less obvious for other weapons but still helpfull.
  • Commancho
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    So what's your DPS with that? 15k? xD

    Wanna skip weaving? Try Easy Sorc by Xynode. You will pull out 30k+ DPS without weaving or having some super complicated rotation - 3 damage dealing abilities and 2 heavy attacks (and two buff abilities once every 15-30s).

    What you are describing here has however some usage in PVP especialy when paired with some sets, but I will keep my mouth quiet xD
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    . But the bow skill line has no spammable.

    Snipe?
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    . But the bow skill line has no spammable.

    Snipe?

    It has a cast time so it is useless when your enemy is smart enough to use line of sight. A spammable should be instant.
  • InvictusApollo
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    Commancho wrote: »
    So what's your DPS with that? 15k? xD

    Wanna skip weaving? Try Easy Sorc by Xynode. You will pull out 30k+ DPS without weaving or having some super complicated rotation - 3 damage dealing abilities and 2 heavy attacks (and two buff abilities once every 15-30s).

    What you are describing here has however some usage in PVP especialy when paired with some sets, but I will keep my mouth quiet xD

    The build I have made and described here is obviously for pvp. I even put that in my post. On my pve builds I pull much more than some "Easy Sorc" ;)
  • Joxer61
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    Commancho wrote: »
    So what's your DPS with that? 15k? xD

    Wanna skip weaving? Try Easy Sorc by Xynode. You will pull out 30k+ DPS without weaving or having some super complicated rotation - 3 damage dealing abilities and 2 heavy attacks (and two buff abilities once every 15-30s).

    What you are describing here has however some usage in PVP especialy when paired with some sets, but I will keep my mouth quiet xD

    The build I have made and described here is obviously for pvp. I even put that in my post. On my pve builds I pull much more than some "Easy Sorc" ;)

    sure you do.....
  • robpr
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    . But the bow skill line has no spammable.

    Snipe?

    It has a cast time so it is useless when your enemy is smart enough to use line of sight. A spammable should be instant.

    Draining shoot then?
  • Commancho
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    Joxer61 wrote: »
    Commancho wrote: »
    So what's your DPS with that? 15k? xD

    Wanna skip weaving? Try Easy Sorc by Xynode. You will pull out 30k+ DPS without weaving or having some super complicated rotation - 3 damage dealing abilities and 2 heavy attacks (and two buff abilities once every 15-30s).

    What you are describing here has however some usage in PVP especialy when paired with some sets, but I will keep my mouth quiet xD

    The build I have made and described here is obviously for pvp. I even put that in my post. On my pve builds I pull much more than some "Easy Sorc" ;)

    sure you do.....

    Is this combo (LA+Crushing weapon) a part of some longer rotation or...?
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Commancho wrote: »
    So what's your DPS with that? 15k? xD

    Wanna skip weaving? Try Easy Sorc by Xynode. You will pull out 30k+ DPS without weaving or having some super complicated rotation - 3 damage dealing abilities and 2 heavy attacks (and two buff abilities once every 15-30s).

    What you are describing here has however some usage in PVP especialy when paired with some sets, but I will keep my mouth quiet xD

    The build I have made and described here is obviously for pvp. I even put that in my post. On my pve builds I pull much more than some "Easy Sorc" ;)

    https://youtu.be/2ZIL59nk38Q

    bett then 46k dps?

    https://youtu.be/gbqrjXz4ZFA

    better then 42k dps?



    . But the bow skill line has no spammable.

    Snipe?

    It has a cast time so it is useless when your enemy is smart enough to use line of sight. A spammable should be instant.

    talking about pvp? pve it is the hardest hitting spammable int eh game, i have seen 100k+ hits single with poison arrow.

    https://youtu.be/NQf1Fr3hjA4

    94k crit with venom arrow. 65k dps with bow/bow.
  • Commancho
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    94k crit with venom arrow. 65k dps with bow/bow.
    This gives me inspiration and it brings me back to my old idea of having a poison bow build.
    Asylum Bow, vMA Bow, Sheer Venom + Poisonous Serpent or Deadly Strike xD
  • SaintSubwayy
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    Commancho wrote: »
    So what's your DPS with that? 15k? xD

    Wanna skip weaving? Try Easy Sorc by Xynode. You will pull out 30k+ DPS without weaving or having some super complicated rotation - 3 damage dealing abilities and 2 heavy attacks (and two buff abilities once every 15-30s).

    What you are describing here has however some usage in PVP especialy when paired with some sets, but I will keep my mouth quiet xD

    kinda silly, but on a Bow you hit 20k on backbar with just LA and relequen....add in 2 skills and you have 30k aswell, ez pz
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  • ecru
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    Commancho wrote: »
    So what's your DPS with that? 15k? xD

    Wanna skip weaving? Try Easy Sorc by Xynode. You will pull out 30k+ DPS without weaving or having some super complicated rotation - 3 damage dealing abilities and 2 heavy attacks (and two buff abilities once every 15-30s).

    What you are describing here has however some usage in PVP especialy when paired with some sets, but I will keep my mouth quiet xD

    he suggests IA on a sorc? why.png
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  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    ecru wrote: »
    Commancho wrote: »
    So what's your DPS with that? 15k? xD

    Wanna skip weaving? Try Easy Sorc by Xynode. You will pull out 30k+ DPS without weaving or having some super complicated rotation - 3 damage dealing abilities and 2 heavy attacks (and two buff abilities once every 15-30s).

    What you are describing here has however some usage in PVP especialy when paired with some sets, but I will keep my mouth quiet xD

    he suggests IA on a sorc? why.png

    what makes you think IA is bad on a sorc?
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    O_o
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    ecru wrote: »
    Commancho wrote: »
    So what's your DPS with that? 15k? xD

    Wanna skip weaving? Try Easy Sorc by Xynode. You will pull out 30k+ DPS without weaving or having some super complicated rotation - 3 damage dealing abilities and 2 heavy attacks (and two buff abilities once every 15-30s).

    What you are describing here has however some usage in PVP especialy when paired with some sets, but I will keep my mouth quiet xD

    he suggests IA on a sorc? why.png

    With DPS I light attack the use of every skill including refreshing buffs and dropping an ultimate regardless of the build or class.
  • Heelie
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    The amount of people bragging about subpar dps in this thread is, too damm high! All the OP did was share his love for a spell in the psijic line. If you want to share an easy subpar dps build for beginners start your own thread!
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  • idk
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    Heelie wrote: »
    The amount of people bragging about subpar dps in this thread is, too damm high! All the OP did was share his love for a spell in the psijic line. If you want to share an easy subpar dps build for beginners start your own thread!

    And the OP shared how someone can get used to weaving light attacks. But you are correct. OP was not bragging. They were just trying to help those that might be challenged wearing LAs.
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    Heelie wrote: »
    The amount of people bragging about subpar dps in this thread is, too damm high! All the OP did was share his love for a spell in the psijic line. If you want to share an easy subpar dps build for beginners start your own thread!

    No, we have just suggested full builds like Easy Sorc, which offers you some easy rotation which includes animation canceling while heavy attacking with lightning staff and using Destructive Clench, so it goes like that:
    1)Liquid lightning, light attack, boundless storm, light attack,elemental blockade, weapon swap
    2)Heavy attack + Destructive Clench, Heavy attack + Destructive Clench, weapon swap

    I have bolded for you animation canceling part. Once you get used to, weaving will be much easier to master as it uses the same method just counter clock - LA + ability 1 > LA + ability. It's not subpar dps, I have said 30k+, but I meant new players and like the others have noticed with a proper gear (vMA staff) and some practice you can easly go 40k+ DPS with the most easy possible rotation and great sustain even at low CPs. That's much better that what OP is suggesting (LA+Crushing weapons spam during dungeons) - both for the people who will PUG with you, but also it will allow you to acomplish most of the content in this game without wasting your life.
  • InvictusApollo
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    idk wrote: »
    Heelie wrote: »
    The amount of people bragging about subpar dps in this thread is, too damm high! All the OP did was share his love for a spell in the psijic line. If you want to share an easy subpar dps build for beginners start your own thread!

    And the OP shared how someone can get used to weaving light attacks. But you are correct. OP was not bragging. They were just trying to help those that might be challenged wearing LAs.

    Yes. Exactly. Thank both of you. I thought it was obvious that I'm sharing info about a feature that is supposed to help ion training of LA weaving in whatever build you happen to be using. I'm not recommending any build in here, just pointing out how I came to notice this feature.
  • The_Lex
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    I'm finally parsing on a build that is using Ele Weapon as a spammable. It wasn't until recently that I figured out that I could do the normal LA > Skill rotation. The tooltip made me think I had to do it in reverse. I say this because I appreciate the OP's attempt to help people. Not everyone may know how to properly weave this skill.
    Edited by The_Lex on April 3, 2019 1:15PM
  • Heelie
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    Commancho wrote: »
    Heelie wrote: »
    The amount of people bragging about subpar dps in this thread is, too damm high! All the OP did was share his love for a spell in the psijic line. If you want to share an easy subpar dps build for beginners start your own thread!

    No, we have just suggested full builds like Easy Sorc, which offers you some easy rotation which includes animation canceling while heavy attacking with lightning staff and using Destructive Clench, so it goes like that:
    1)Liquid lightning, light attack, boundless storm, light attack,elemental blockade, weapon swap
    2)Heavy attack + Destructive Clench, Heavy attack + Destructive Clench, weapon swap

    I have bolded for you animation canceling part. Once you get used to, weaving will be much easier to master as it uses the same method just counter clock - LA + ability 1 > LA + ability. It's not subpar dps, I have said 30k+, but I meant new players and like the others have noticed with a proper gear (vMA staff) and some practice you can easly go 40k+ DPS with the most easy possible rotation and great sustain even at low CPs. That's much better that what OP is suggesting (LA+Crushing weapons spam during dungeons) - both for the people who will PUG with you, but also it will allow you to acomplish most of the content in this game without wasting your life.

    OP was telling how you can train light attack weaving, something that is crucial to doing good dps, the build you're talking about is massively outdated and subpar, heavy attack rotations where Meta before the Dragon Bones patch Feb last year. Today we sustain with synergies and therefore we can use light attack rotations, so what the OP is telling is that there is a skill in the psijic line that is perfect for learning exactly that. I play stamblade about twice a month in pug dungeons and even with a slightly washed up rotation i am pulling 85k+ dps so it's definetly a skill worth to learn.
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  • Commancho
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    Heelie wrote: »
    OP was telling how you can train light attack weaving, something that is crucial to doing good dps, the build you're talking about is massively outdated and subpar, heavy attack rotations where Meta before the Dragon Bones patch Feb last year. Today we sustain with synergies and therefore we can use light attack rotations, so what the OP is telling is that there is a skill in the psijic line that is perfect for learning exactly that. I play stamblade about twice a month in pug dungeons and even with a slightly washed up rotation i am pulling 85k+ dps so it's definetly a skill worth to learn.

    Lightning staff AoE builds base on heavy attacks and optionaly on animation canceling, but definetly not weaving. Yeah, they are not meta, but they are very easy to master and they will let you to learn mechanics as DD in the veteran content, while animation canceling will let you get used to having a mechanic in your rotation similiar to weaving.
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    Commancho wrote: »
    Joxer61 wrote: »
    Commancho wrote: »
    So what's your DPS with that? 15k? xD

    Wanna skip weaving? Try Easy Sorc by Xynode. You will pull out 30k+ DPS without weaving or having some super complicated rotation - 3 damage dealing abilities and 2 heavy attacks (and two buff abilities once every 15-30s).

    What you are describing here has however some usage in PVP especialy when paired with some sets, but I will keep my mouth quiet xD

    The build I have made and described here is obviously for pvp. I even put that in my post. On my pve builds I pull much more than some "Easy Sorc" ;)

    sure you do.....

    Is this combo (LA+Crushing weapon) a part of some longer rotation or...?

    Yes, many rotations use light attack weaving. Crushing weapon or elemental weapon are just spammables. In the case of the OP its merely presented as a way to learn weaving light attacks.

    I use Xynode's Easy Sorc and I can weave reasonably well. There doesn't need to be an "or" there.
    Edited by Agenericname on April 3, 2019 2:56PM
  • CultOfMMO
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    Commancho wrote: »
    Heelie wrote: »
    The amount of people bragging about subpar dps in this thread is, too damm high! All the OP did was share his love for a spell in the psijic line. If you want to share an easy subpar dps build for beginners start your own thread!

    No, we have just suggested full builds like Easy Sorc, which offers you some easy rotation which includes animation canceling while heavy attacking with lightning staff and using Destructive Clench, so it goes like that:
    1)Liquid lightning, light attack, boundless storm, light attack,elemental blockade, weapon swap
    2)Heavy attack + Destructive Clench, Heavy attack + Destructive Clench, weapon swap

    I have bolded for you animation canceling part. Once you get used to, weaving will be much easier to master as it uses the same method just counter clock - LA + ability 1 > LA + ability. It's not subpar dps, I have said 30k+, but I meant new players and like the others have noticed with a proper gear (vMA staff) and some practice you can easly go 40k+ DPS with the most easy possible rotation and great sustain even at low CPs. That's much better that what OP is suggesting (LA+Crushing weapons spam during dungeons) - both for the people who will PUG with you, but also it will allow you to acomplish most of the content in this game without wasting your life.

    "without wasting your life" omegalul spoken like a true forum warrior

    it literally only takes a couple hours of concentrated effort with deliberate practice on weaving to get the timing down, then you're gucci for the rest of the countless hours you'll be playing this game. How many hours of your life have you wasted being below mediocre while trying to convince everyone and yourself that heavy atking is viable? or that 40k dps is impressive or even passable?

    just learn weaving, as OP suggested, it's worth it. Read the last paragraph of the original post again, and don't bother playing until you really understand what it means.

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  • ecru
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    ecru wrote: »
    Commancho wrote: »
    So what's your DPS with that? 15k? xD

    Wanna skip weaving? Try Easy Sorc by Xynode. You will pull out 30k+ DPS without weaving or having some super complicated rotation - 3 damage dealing abilities and 2 heavy attacks (and two buff abilities once every 15-30s).

    What you are describing here has however some usage in PVP especialy when paired with some sets, but I will keep my mouth quiet xD

    he suggests IA on a sorc? why.png

    what makes you think IA is bad on a sorc?

    it's not a bad set but it applies a unique debuff that a lot of healers may already be using in dungeons and trials
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    i think the point the OP is making is you cast thjs skill and then a light attack for it to work. This is essentially weaving. Also worth noting, it can’t be animation canceled.

    That being said, it still isn’t gonna make you hit even 30k automatically. Neither will Maelstrom Weapons.
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    ecru wrote: »
    ecru wrote: »
    Commancho wrote: »
    So what's your DPS with that? 15k? xD

    Wanna skip weaving? Try Easy Sorc by Xynode. You will pull out 30k+ DPS without weaving or having some super complicated rotation - 3 damage dealing abilities and 2 heavy attacks (and two buff abilities once every 15-30s).

    What you are describing here has however some usage in PVP especialy when paired with some sets, but I will keep my mouth quiet xD

    he suggests IA on a sorc? why.png

    what makes you think IA is bad on a sorc?

    it's not a bad set but it applies a unique debuff that a lot of healers may already be using in dungeons and trials

    And that would matter if Xynode chose the set for that debuff.
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    Commancho wrote: »
    So what's your DPS with that? 15k? xD

    Wanna skip weaving? Try Easy Sorc by Xynode. You will pull out 30k+ DPS without weaving or having some super complicated rotation - 3 damage dealing abilities and 2 heavy attacks (and two buff abilities once every 15-30s).

    What you are describing here has however some usage in PVP especialy when paired with some sets, but I will keep my mouth quiet xD

    The build I have made and described here is obviously for pvp. I even put that in my post. On my pve builds I pull much more than some "Easy Sorc" ;)

    https://youtu.be/2ZIL59nk38Q

    bett then 46k dps?

    https://youtu.be/gbqrjXz4ZFA

    better then 42k dps?



    . But the bow skill line has no spammable.

    Snipe?

    It has a cast time so it is useless when your enemy is smart enough to use line of sight. A spammable should be instant.

    talking about pvp? pve it is the hardest hitting spammable int eh game, i have seen 100k+ hits single with poison arrow.

    https://youtu.be/NQf1Fr3hjA4

    94k crit with venom arrow. 65k dps with bow/bow.

    Watching Hodor do vAS+2 is so beautiful
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    For me it always felt natural to weave Light Attacks. I always start out explaining this to those who ask about improving their DPS. You can even *** it up a few times yet still have a decent parse on enemies in dungeons and such because everything will flow much better if you learn to time your skills to recast them at the right moment and don't trigger a weapon swap bug or sprint in combat as I do on my Templars.
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    Bows don't have a single-target spammable but Wardens do. Have you tried Cutting Dive? It's less costly than Crushing Weapon and heals you for more with the Bond with Nature passive.
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    Ahtu wrote: »
    Bows don't have a single-target spammable but Wardens do. Have you tried Cutting Dive? It's less costly than Crushing Weapon and heals you for more with the Bond with Nature passive.

    snipe?
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