VaranisArano wrote: »

Or maybe ZOS could just make it easier to unsummon pets. Or at least more obvious.

Seriously, I had high CP before I realized I could click on their buff on the character menu. Before that, I'd thought I had to manually take the skill off my skill bar, so I never unsummoned my pets.

There is a command button that lets you control your pet. Most players don't know about it. They usually get informed about it when they go to a veteran trial or nHoF. Giving people an easy unsummon button won't solve the problem. We wouldn't have it if it was just about the ease of unsummoning as there is an addons that does exactly that what you proposed.

My idea is automatic and will work even on the most inexperienced players.

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

Unslotting my pets briefly to unsummon them was a nonstarter. Opening my character screen and tapping on the pets is way better but still too inconvenient to routinely use. For me, the Pet Dismiss addon was perfect. Makes it so easy to unsummon the pets that mine are now never seen in town unless I'm expecting an attack (which numerous quests do). Putting what Pet Dismiss does into the basic game for all platforms would go a very long way toward solving the problem.

Auto dismiss in town would only be palatable if 'in combat' overrides 'in town' and allows summoning when attacked in town.

I would also love to have my matriarch either one quarter size or turned into a summoned sylvan nyxad pixie healer.

Fully agree.

Ozby wrote: »

InvictusApollo wrote: »

Everyone gets annoyed by pets in cities.
They decrease fps.
They cover stuff.
They seem unimmersive.

How do we fix that problem?
By making them a "criminal act"? - No. This would only make them extremely inconvenient for pet users.

There is a much, much better way!
One that will work.
What is it?

Autounsummon in cities!

There is already a mod that detects whether you are in a city and changes your UI for immersion purposes. It is called ImmersionToggles.
There is also a mod that lets people unsummon their pets with a single button press. It is called Pet Dismiss.

However there is no addon that merges these two functionalities. Probably because API doesn't support. Or does it?
There are addons that let you change your entire equipment and skill bars... and pets get unsummoned the moment you remove them from a bar.

If someone made such an addon it would be a great boon for the entire PC community.
And if ZOS would implement this as a default in game then we would have almost no pets in the cities!

I'm a pet sorc and bear warden and I agree with this

Yep, me too!

Nerouyn wrote: »

The only potential issue with pets is at eg. crafting writ turn in boxes.

Just make pets keep their distance from those.

That's not the only place they're a problem. Even as a pet sorc and warden, they're a problem for me in combat sometimes. Seriously, ZOS, institute the unsummon in towns and at wayshrines at least. Sure, I do it myself - but I'm one of a vanishingly small minority.

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Seriously, ZOS, institute the unsummon in towns and at wayshrines at least.

InvictusApollo wrote: »

Autounsummon in cities!

And if ZOS would implement this as a default in game then we would have almost no pets in the cities!

So, how do you propose Pet Sorc players finish their quests that are in town ... if they can't use their pets in the first place??

Examples would be Daggerfall and Evermore. There are town quests with hostiles that need to be defeated.

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Seriously, ZOS, institute the unsummon in towns and at wayshrines at least.

InvictusApollo wrote: »

Autounsummon in cities!

And if ZOS would implement this as a default in game then we would have almost no pets in the cities!

So, how do you propose Pet Sorc players finish their quests that are in town ... if they can't use their pets in the first place??

Examples would be Daggerfall and Evermore. There are town quests with hostiles that need to be defeated.

I don't EVER depend entirely on pets and spells. I make sure my girls have weapon abilities. Of course, you do realize that I (with 2k + ms ping) can't reliably do quest lines? No, probably you don't. Well - I can't. So I've never done those in town quest lines.

Regardless, I do NOT EVER depend on pets and spells. Period.

SO many convoluted ideas while willfully ignoring the most simple idea, and use of in game mechanics. All just to ensure others are punished for trollish ideals.

Phasing is and will always be the answer for situations like this.
Most often seen with Escort NPCs / Follower NPCs


Mounted Players, Non-Combatant and Combatant Pets phase out when said player approaches certain PvE (only) locations;
I.E: Crafting Stations, Wayshires in major Cities (out in the open world will remain unaffected), Auction / Trader / Banker NPCs, Event NPCs, etc.

Phasing doesn't mean that they get unmounted, or that the pets become unsummoned, they are phased into a their own temporary zone while within said meters of specific locations. If the Mounted Player gets phased, they will see a handful of those around them, others wouldn't in essence see said mounted player, but still able to read their chat. If Player is in party/group, only those with in the group would still see them.

Pets (both Non and Combative) would still be active, but not share the same singular zone space while at these locations, this would allow less clutter and easier targeting of these areas, once the player with said pets departs from said location (or player dismounts) and is at designated distance pets will phase back again. Pet's will still be able to have their abilities usable while phased.

Simple, already massively used in game in a large portion of areas.

Enemoriana wrote: »

Quests are easy enough to do them without pets even for pet builds. Other skills and weapon are still there. Most times even light attacks are enough.

Easy or not, don’t you think taking away a Pet Sorcs bread and butter is too restrictive on their gameplay style ... simply because of a twilight matriarch that’s “too close” to the woodworking table?

Aznarb wrote: »

Dunno which MMORPG it was, maybe GW2, not sure, but I've play one of these and their was an option to check (or not) to hide pet from other player.

Why can't we have the same thing ? Look pretty easy to add.

GW2 I Believe, as well as City of Heroes / Villains even had it cause of pet build Master Minds (probably one of the first games to use it successfully before ...sniff... nvm)

It's all the same phasing suggestion, with size reduction suggestion. Utilizing and combining two suggestions into one.

System > Video > Show Additional Ally Effects > ON/OFF

Either tag Pets; Non-Combat & Combat Pets as visual effects (since they are already just glorified Dots and Pretty Pixels)
Or implement one more toggle with slider option (Which personally would be the best option)

System > Video > Phase Additional Player Pets > ON/OFF

Slider becomes available if toggled OFF slider allows two options

• Reduce the size of your pets by: 25 / 50 / 75%
• Reduce the size of other player pets by: 25 / 50 / 75%

If toggle ON slider allows one option

• Reduce the size of your pets by: 25 / 50 / 75%
• Reduce the size of other player pets by: 25 / 50 / 75%

As well, it is more, above all else, a QoL (Quality of Life) improvement more than anything else, without trying to get players randomly killed / bounties cause of lulz player pets suxxors.

Granted, it wont solve all the pet issues, but, it is a start towards the right direction to ease multiple areas at once, from Idle chit-chat crafting in towns to trails / dungeon runs and more controlled player targeting in BGs.