Nerf of skills

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Should they nerf draining shot, cloak, snipe, spin 2 win?
  • Gilvoth
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    no, those dont need nerfed.
    please stop making nerf threads asking for nerfs.
  • Sythen88411
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    Gilvoth wrote: »
    no, those dont need nerfed.
    please stop making nerf threads asking for nerfs.

    You saying this cahse you crutch on these skills?
  • Rake
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    Gilvoth wrote: »
    no, those dont need nerfed.
    please stop making nerf threads asking for nerfs.

    You saying this cahse you crutch on these skills?

    L2P
  • Dragneel1207
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    nerf every skill
    we will play naked with fists
    no lag no nerfing
  • Artim_X
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    Snipe and spin 2 win are apparently getting nerfed in the upcoming chapter. In my experience I think it has become easier to break free from draining shot so I don't think a nerf would be appropriate.

    The problem with cloak is how do you nerf it without completely breaking the skill. Cloak (shadow cloak and shadowy disguise) seems god tier when no one is using counters against it (no aoe, no detect pots, no stealth/invisibility revealing skills, etc.), but in many cases just one person using a counter can completely shut down a nightblade's ability to escape. Of course, fast nightblades and the ones that cleverly use shadow image (or undo ultimate) can still find ways to escape.
    (AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanist
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    • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
      Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
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    • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
    • Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
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    • My Healer Build.
    • Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    • Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
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    • My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
    • Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
    Electric-Vamp
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
    Dawnfang
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    • My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
    • Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
    Duskfang
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
    Eye of the Queen
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    • My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
    • Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
    Eye of the King
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
    PvE Starter Gear
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    • Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
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    Race
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    • High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
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    • PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
    • PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
    • PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
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    • DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
    • PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    Favorite Foods and Potions
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    • Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
    • Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
    • Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
    • Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
  • Karmanorway
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    Should they nerf draining shot, cloak, snipe, spin 2 win?
    yes to all except cloak
  • Kidgangster101
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    Artim_X wrote: »
    Snipe and spin 2 win are apparently getting nerfed in the upcoming chapter. In my experience I think it has become easier to break free from draining shot so I don't think a nerf would be appropriate.

    The problem with cloak is how do you nerf it without completely breaking the skill. Cloak (shadow cloak and shadowy disguise) seems god tier when no one is using counters against it (no aoe, no detect pots, no stealth/invisibility revealing skills, etc.), but in many cases just one person using a counter can completely shut down a nightblade's ability to escape. Of course, fast nightblades and the ones that cleverly use shadow image (or undo ultimate) can still find ways to escape.

    Yep spin2win and snipe are getting nerfed (snipe buffed for nb actually they can now do major and minor defile lol) and as for cloak it should be nerfed and when it gets nerfed NB should receive some survivability moves. Dk wings got butchered as well it will be an absolute class changing move so I can see cloak getting butchered too as they are both heavily complained about.
  • brandonv516
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    Can't wait for the Steel Tornado change. This with the changes to Wings are what I am excited for most.

    Snipe has only ever been an issue for me with desyncs. Have not noticed one single desync with it this patch.
    Edited by brandonv516 on March 30, 2019 8:13PM
  • Jameliel
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    They already nerfed ranging from stealth as Bosmer. Now they are nerfing grim focus. Being a pure ranger is already nerfed into the dirt. People who still easily die to snipe are garbage. Plain and simple fact. If they do anything else to snipe, why even have bows in the game? ESO is already the absolute worst major mmo for rangers ever.
  • zaria
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    Should they nerf draining shot, cloak, snipe, spin 2 win?
    Tell me your class and race and I tell you that should be nerfed hard.
    Nerf requests itself should cost 100cp, so you are down 400 cp.
    Edited by zaria on March 30, 2019 8:31PM
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Girl_Number8
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    Another cryhard post, lol. Nerfilings

    Someone died xD

    Zos already addressed several of these skills that are being changed.
    Rake wrote: »
    Gilvoth wrote: »
    no, those dont need nerfed.
    please stop making nerf threads asking for nerfs.

    You saying this cahse you crutch on these skills?

    L2P

    You would think that would be something that would occur but being lazy and asking to nerf things to suit their individual needs seems to be the new mantra. :*
  • ezio45
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    Should they nerf draining shot, cloak, snipe, spin 2 win?

    draining shot: its annoying.... Idk if its broken and needs a nerf
    cloak: hell no, its actually pretty weak. Alot of players i think confuse cloak for sneak. Noone, not even a magblade is perma cloaking. Unless they want that to be the sole thing there doing and there in seducer, alteration and are a breton. It already has enough hard counters.
    Snipe: Its alittle strong on its own and its bugged.
    Spin to win: hell yes.
    Heavy armor meta: Hell yes
  • TequilaFire
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    Don't worry soon you will win the entire game in crown store anyway.
    Then you can call for nerfs to other's bank accounts. lmao
    Edited by TequilaFire on March 30, 2019 9:47PM
  • Alucardo
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    I'm tempted to say yes to draining shot just because how annoying it has become with the range increase. Not to mention the buggy CC break it provides. I god damn hate this skill more than snipe.
  • Stellarvorous
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    Should they nerf draining shot, cloak, snipe, spin 2 win?


    Should ? its already happening did no one see that twitch podcast?

    Snipe damage is getting reduced but is expected to cast faster if im correct not to mention its losing major defile for minor defile.

    Steel Potato ermm tornado is getting the execute removed and put into the other morph whirling steel w/e its called.

    Steel tornado will still have some damage but no longer have that built in execute.

    Anything past that I didn't see mentioned while I hate cloak more than most people as it cancels out my dizzy swing attempts im not honestly sure It should get nerfed.

    Id rather see 2 hander skill line get the much needed rework and love it deserves as opposed to other peoples specs getting nerfed.

    This back n forth nerfing of specs doesn't promote balance setting a specific bar standard for everything then providing all the classes and playstyles/roles with the ability to reach and obtain that standard IS balance at least in my opinion.


    Either way im just a gank warden potato I define jon snow in ESO I truly know nothing >:)



  • D0PAMINE
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    Don't worry soon you will win the entire game in crown store anyway.
    Then you can call for nerfs to other's bank accounts. lmao

    Nerf soul trap its OP
  • TequilaFire
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    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Don't worry soon you will win the entire game in crown store anyway.
    Then you can call for nerfs to other's bank accounts. lmao

    Nerf soul trap its OP

    Yeah who needs it?
    You can buy soul gems in the crown store too! lol
  • KhajiitFelix
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    Can you also nerf liquid lightning? Idk why it's just the first skill that came in mind.
  • dazee
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    Nerf Nerfs!
    Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.
  • r34lian
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    Nerf latency as well while you're at it :trollface:
    2000 CP • 18 Maxed Characters • 6 Altmers • 7 Redguards • Necromancer Orc • Warden Dunmer • DK Nord • DK Imperial • Templar Breton
  • Dragneel1207
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    Nerf latency as well while you're at it :trollface:

    its already nerfed
  • Anyron
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    One by one

    Draining shot
    Since its now easily break-free skill it isnt much of problem now

    Snipe
    It can hardly be called nerf when only major debuff is made minor. That wasnt what caused to get 2shotted before you could even break-free

    Spin2win
    Decent damage on enemies with full health while +100% damage to low health targets while covering 9m area as aoe? This was stupidly OP for years. everything what is aoe finisher is bad

    Cloak
    As much as i hate this skill i don't know how they wanna nerf it. Only real counter to this skill is potion which is up 12s with 45s cooldown. If you manage to kill that nightblade in 12s he has bad luck. If you dont you can just turn around and go fight with something else.
    But its only skill that keeps magblade alive. They need to do it so it isnt nerf for Magblades but it is nerf for stamblades.
    Edited by Anyron on March 31, 2019 5:30AM
  • dazee
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    Anyron wrote: »
    They need to do it so it isnt nerf for Magblades but it is nerf for stamblades.

    That can be done by changing the cost to a percentage of maximum magicka. it will cost more the more magicka max you have. making it equally powerful on stamblades and magblades.
    Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.
  • Anyron
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    dazee wrote: »
    Anyron wrote: »
    They need to do it so it isnt nerf for Magblades but it is nerf for stamblades.

    That can be done by changing the cost to a percentage of maximum magicka. it will cost more the more magicka max you have. making it equally powerful on stamblades and magblades.

    Thats exactly what they shouldn't do. For Magblades cloak is main way to survive. Sure they have acess to LA shield, but thats weak shield and they have bad mobility skills

    On other hand, stamina has Rolls, rally which gives immunity to snares and roots ( 4 seconds is still better than nothing) and faster sprinting speed which is helping when you wanna break line-of-sight

    Cloak is issue on stamblades. It isnt on Magblades and no magblade isnt any of my characters.
    Edited by Anyron on March 31, 2019 6:12AM
  • Knootewoot
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    I read all nerfs are thanks to EP

    DC don't complain
    AD are elves and don't have a vote
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    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
  • Savos_Saren
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    Knootewoot wrote: »
    I read all nerfs are thanks to EP

    DC don't complain
    AD are elves and don't have a vote

    AD here- but I main a DK and hate our cowardly NBs.

    It's funny how NBs praise a Sorc Shield nerf, a Templar Breath of Life nerf, and DK Wings nerf (all the while call them "crutches") yet defend Cloak as if it's not OP.
    Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.

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    Savos Saren
  • glavius
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    Both Steel Tornado and Whirling Blades will be useless next patch :|
  • Itzmichi
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    I said that before, the should remove all skills, weapons and classes so we can have our medival simulator 2019 back.
    Here, have a chill pill 💊!
  • Minyassa
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    Let's just nerf everything so no one can play, BUT, put everything in the crown store so that people can buy endgame achievements, so no one HAS to play. Then we can all just sit here and stare at the screen. Whee.
  • Knootewoot
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    Knootewoot wrote: »
    I read all nerfs are thanks to EP

    DC don't complain
    AD are elves and don't have a vote

    AD here- but I main a DK and hate our cowardly NBs.

    It's funny how NBs praise a Sorc Shield nerf, a Templar Breath of Life nerf, and DK Wings nerf (all the while call them "crutches") yet defend Cloak as if it's not OP.

    I'm a magNB. Yes, I dislike wings, shields and BOL. I don't have a potion that nullifies them as is done to cloak.

    That said, I never called them crutches nor asked for nerfs. Only the minority on the forum might complain.
    But the changes come from the devs. It is imho a combination of the complaining, the evergoing quest for impossible balancing, class reps who think they know the best, streamers who think they are the best and more.
    There is not only one guilty of this.
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