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Can we fix Snipe?!?!
BeefyMrTips
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Got hit with 4 shots of focused aim at same time each from 5-11k hits. This has been broken for a long time, can we fix it already please?!
Mr. was my Father's name, just the tips is fine.
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Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Probably lag. All it takes is a small spike and it can feel like you were hit by an army of snipers3 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭it is from lag
what you describe is from lagg.
snipe is very slow cast, and its damage is easily mitigated with block and vigor.
people heal through it and block and dont die.1 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, it's not lag. And it's ridiculous people try to throw that defence out there after it being broken for years
More importantly, the health desync and buggy nature of the skill were commented on by the devs at the class rep meeting - it's in the minutes that the skill is bugged and being looked at.
@BeefyMrTips so you are spot on. Snipe is bust.Xbox One | EU | EP
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Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
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Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach13 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, it's not lag. And it's ridiculous people try to throw that defence out there after it being broken for years
More importantly, the health desync and buggy nature of the skill were commented on by the devs at the class rep meeting - it's in the minutes that the skill is bugged and being looked at.
@BeefyMrTips so you are spot on. Snipe is bust.
Lol trust me, I have no intention of defending this skill. I'd be happy if it were removed tomorrow, along with the draining shot buff. But yes, lag does affect this skill. Having said that, I'm not going to argue about the health desync - that is a real problem that's been around for too long.3 -
Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, it's not lag. And it's ridiculous people try to throw that defence out there after it being broken for years
More importantly, the health desync and buggy nature of the skill were commented on by the devs at the class rep meeting - it's in the minutes that the skill is bugged and being looked at.
@BeefyMrTips so you are spot on. Snipe is bust.
Lol trust me, I have no intention of defending this skill. I'd be happy if it were removed tomorrow, along with the draining shot buff. But yes, lag does affect this skill. Having said that, I'm not going to argue about the health desync - that is a real problem that's been around for too long.
It also gives no telegraph. You should hear the fling when it's fired and travels, but in reality you hear the sound AFTER you're being hit. This could be lag, but why is this quite unique to Snipe? Skill's BS, players know that. And at the same time, bow users have been begging for a true spammable since the game came out. It's so easy to put 2 and 2 together...3 -
dazee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭28 foot range instant cast bow attack which does almost as much damage as snipe, but the shorter range means its less OP for pvp.Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.0 -
stephbay123✭✭✭What is the issue with snipe? snipe takes about a second to cast, 4 in a row is 4 seconds. Either it is lag, you got stunned too or you are just slow. Either way snipe hits hard as intended like many skills.2
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russelmmendoza✭✭✭✭✭
✭Everybody knows its a bug.
Yet.
Everybody cries about it.
Then.
Everybody cries.
Nerf.1 -
AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Leave the skill as is for PvE where it works fine. If there is any concern about snipe in PvP then consider making the skill work however you want in PvP. Remove it from PvP for all I care but leave it alone where it is not broken (PvE).PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo1 -
frostz417✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭AcadianPaladin wrote: »Leave the skill as is for PvE where it works fine. If there is any concern about snipe in PvP then consider making the skill work however you want in PvP. Remove it from PvP for all I care but leave it alone where it is not broken (PvE).
If you’re using snipe in pve you’re honestly what’s wrong with this game. Likely can’t even break 20k dps5 -
AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AcadianPaladin wrote: »Leave the skill as is for PvE where it works fine. If there is any concern about snipe in PvP then consider making the skill work however you want in PvP. Remove it from PvP for all I care but leave it alone where it is not broken (PvE).
If you’re using snipe in pve you’re honestly what’s wrong with this game. Likely can’t even break 20k dps
I think what's wrong with this game is the continuing failed insistence on trying to balance PvE and PvP together. One need only briefly consider impen, heavy armor, snipe, cc to realize PvP and PvE are two different games.
I've no interest in running a meta build. My bow/bow stamsorc runs +25k dps and does not impact other players. If she wants to run a pledge or WB, she does it solo - and pretty successfully. I find that snipe has a role in her line up that suits our purpose - to have fun and successfully accomplish any content that I'm interested in.PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo2 -
JobooAGS✭✭✭✭✭
✭AcadianPaladin wrote: »Leave the skill as is for PvE where it works fine. If there is any concern about snipe in PvP then consider making the skill work however you want in PvP. Remove it from PvP for all I care but leave it alone where it is not broken (PvE).
If you’re using snipe in pve you’re honestly what’s wrong with this game. Likely can’t even break 20k dps
lol have you seen that 100k parse with a snipeden?5 -
hedna123b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭AcadianPaladin wrote: »Leave the skill as is for PvE where it works fine. If there is any concern about snipe in PvP then consider making the skill work however you want in PvP. Remove it from PvP for all I care but leave it alone where it is not broken (PvE).
If you’re using snipe in pve you’re honestly what’s wrong with this game. Likely can’t even break 20k dps
Is that right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FKuDFPt-Ew&t=14s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4gYR-Af_z4&t=3s 7 -
dazee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭AcadianPaladin wrote: »AcadianPaladin wrote: »Leave the skill as is for PvE where it works fine. If there is any concern about snipe in PvP then consider making the skill work however you want in PvP. Remove it from PvP for all I care but leave it alone where it is not broken (PvE).
If you’re using snipe in pve you’re honestly what’s wrong with this game. Likely can’t even break 20k dps
I think what's wrong with this game is the continuing failed insistence on trying to balance PvE and PvP together. One need only briefly consider impen, heavy armor, snipe, cc to realize PvP and PvE are two different games.
I've no interest in running a meta build. My bow/bow stamsorc runs +25k dps and does not impact other players. If she wants to run a pledge or WB, she does it solo - and pretty successfully. I find that snipe has a role in her line up that suits our purpose - to have fun and successfully accomplish any content that I'm interested in.
If you can do 25k dps you dont need to restrict yourself to solo, anyone who wont take you for something other than a vet trial is an idiot.Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.1 -
StormeReigns✭✭✭✭✭
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Try looking in a mirror first.AcadianPaladin wrote: »Leave the skill as is for PvE where it works fine. If there is any concern about snipe in PvP then consider making the skill work however you want in PvP. Remove it from PvP for all I care but leave it alone where it is not broken (PvE).
If you’re using snipe in pve you’re honestly what’s wrong with this game. Likely can’t even break 20k dps
Try looking in a mirror first for what is wrong with the game. Comments like these make me glad I am deaf, if this is how your thoughts are shared on the forums, god forbid those who actually have to listen to you irl.
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SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭For all you snipe users defending your skill. The skill is clearly bugged, it was even acknowledged by the devs the skill is bugged. I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed after it's been adressed.2
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Ysbriel✭✭✭✭✭BeefyMrTips wrote: »Got hit with 4 shots of focused aim at same time each from 5-11k hits. This has been broken for a long time, can we fix it already please?!
Ive been hit by it even before you see the arrow arrive.0 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭For all you snipe users defending your skill. The skill is clearly bugged, it was even acknowledged by the devs the skill is bugged. I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed after it's been adressed.
I’m pretty sure that snipe in of itself is not bugged. It’s how it works from stealth. That free CC that NBs get is the biggest offender. I often lag out even from melee attacks when that CC from stealth kicks in, never mind incap strikes from stealth. Although I’m not defending snipe as I still think it’s over tuned, I hope ZOS tackles the problem correctly.2 -
Ysbriel✭✭✭✭✭For all you snipe users defending your skill. The skill is clearly bugged, it was even acknowledged by the devs the skill is bugged. I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed after it's been adressed.
I’m pretty sure that snipe in of itself is not bugged. It’s how it works from stealth. That free CC that NBs get is the biggest offender. I often lag out even from melee attacks when that CC from stealth kicks in, never mind incap strikes from stealth. Although I’m not defending snipe as I still think it’s over tuned, I hope ZOS tackles the problem correctly.
It is clearly bugged when you get CC even before you get hit by it and even in one of the patches they mentioned they fixed a bug snipe had related to getting damaged way before the arrow landed.
On BG is one of the most used skill and i’ve even the arrow hit me, the poison sound went off and all and didn’t get any damage. The whole blame it on latency, lag, system is not gonna help at all to fix commonly know issues that get complaints over and over again0 -
AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PvE player here who likes snipe in PvE, but what I'd like to think all can agree on is that if the skill is not working just as it says on the box then it ought to be fixed to work just like it says on the box.
Cast time - check.
Notable time of flight - check.
Does good damage to compensate for above - check.
Slows shooter while firing it - check.
Multiple impacts landing in artificially quick succession - not okay.
Applying effects before impact - not okay.
Whether 'desync', lag, sneak interface, or snipe itself - such things should be fixed.
What sets off archers and PvE players in general is comments like 'Just take snipe out of the game!' All that kind of talk does is further the animosity between archers and nonarchers and between PvE and PvP players. Not cool and, I'd argue, counterproductive to PvP.Edited by AcadianPaladin on March 27, 2019 11:42AMPC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo4 -
DoonerSeraph✭✭✭✭I use it in both PvE and PvP, and unless the target is out of range, I avoid spamming it. Stacking Snipe with Poison Injection is way more productive for me.
Fix the bug, I'm not abusing it and I don't think it's right to be hit by 4 desynced Snipes.
But knowing ZOS, they may nerf it to the ground or just remove the cast and travel time entirely because they can't fix the bug
Edited by DoonerSeraph on March 27, 2019 12:49PM0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AcadianPaladin wrote: »Leave the skill as is for PvE where it works fine. If there is any concern about snipe in PvP then consider making the skill work however you want in PvP. Remove it from PvP for all I care but leave it alone where it is not broken (PvE).
If you’re using snipe in pve you’re honestly what’s wrong with this game. Likely can’t even break 20k dps
If You think that then it's You what is wrong with the game.5 -
SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭For all you snipe users defending your skill. The skill is clearly bugged, it was even acknowledged by the devs the skill is bugged. I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed after it's been adressed.
I’m pretty sure that snipe in of itself is not bugged. It’s how it works from stealth. That free CC that NBs get is the biggest offender. I often lag out even from melee attacks when that CC from stealth kicks in, never mind incap strikes from stealth. Although I’m not defending snipe as I still think it’s over tuned, I hope ZOS tackles the problem correctly.
It is bugged. It has nothing to do with stealth. I see snipe users clear as day doing no stealth and I see them charge snipe and the next second, you're dead and your recap shows like 5 plus snipe ticks
Theres a huge desync problem with it and it needs to get fixed. I haven't experienced yet since the latest patch but I dont doubt that it's still a problem0 -
frostz417✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭AcadianPaladin wrote: »Leave the skill as is for PvE where it works fine. If there is any concern about snipe in PvP then consider making the skill work however you want in PvP. Remove it from PvP for all I care but leave it alone where it is not broken (PvE).
If you’re using snipe in pve you’re honestly what’s wrong with this game. Likely can’t even break 20k dps
If You think that then it's You what is wrong with the game.
Yes because I absolutely love doing vet dungeon dailies and having a snipe spammer dps who does wet noodle dps as my other dps then wonders why he’s a complete floormat0 -
frostz417✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭AcadianPaladin wrote: »AcadianPaladin wrote: »Leave the skill as is for PvE where it works fine. If there is any concern about snipe in PvP then consider making the skill work however you want in PvP. Remove it from PvP for all I care but leave it alone where it is not broken (PvE).
If you’re using snipe in pve you’re honestly what’s wrong with this game. Likely can’t even break 20k dps
I think what's wrong with this game is the continuing failed insistence on trying to balance PvE and PvP together. One need only briefly consider impen, heavy armor, snipe, cc to realize PvP and PvE are two different games.
I've no interest in running a meta build. My bow/bow stamsorc runs +25k dps and does not impact other players. If she wants to run a pledge or WB, she does it solo - and pretty successfully. I find that snipe has a role in her line up that suits our purpose - to have fun and successfully accomplish any content that I'm interested in.
If you can do 25k dps you dont need to restrict yourself to solo, anyone who wont take you for something other than a vet trial is an idiot.
You can’t do vet dlc trials with 25k dps. Vet craglorn trials yes. Nothing further above0 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AcadianPaladin wrote: »Leave the skill as is for PvE where it works fine. If there is any concern about snipe in PvP then consider making the skill work however you want in PvP. Remove it from PvP for all I care but leave it alone where it is not broken (PvE).
If you’re using snipe in pve you’re honestly what’s wrong with this game. Likely can’t even break 20k dps
If You think that then it's You what is wrong with the game.
Yes because I absolutely love doing vet dungeon dailies and having a snipe spammer dps who does wet noodle dps as my other dps then wonders why he’s a complete floormat
you just admitted publicly that you believe snipe does "wet noodle" damage.
it is the same in pvp, it is slow to cast and the damage is easily healed through.1 -
armeegrun✭✭Here is how I look at Snipe, its like a mortar, I can send a couple down range before the first drops on target. Snipe evidently flies in a high arc, allowing the user to fire off another one or two before the first hits.1 -
kypranb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭For all you snipe users defending your skill. The skill is clearly bugged, it was even acknowledged by the devs the skill is bugged. I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed after it's been adressed.
I’m pretty sure that snipe in of itself is not bugged. It’s how it works from stealth. That free CC that NBs get is the biggest offender. I often lag out even from melee attacks when that CC from stealth kicks in, never mind incap strikes from stealth. Although I’m not defending snipe as I still think it’s over tuned, I hope ZOS tackles the problem correctly.
Everyone gets a free CC from it, from stealth. The Stealth-CC time is just doubled on Nightblades0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AcadianPaladin wrote: »Leave the skill as is for PvE where it works fine. If there is any concern about snipe in PvP then consider making the skill work however you want in PvP. Remove it from PvP for all I care but leave it alone where it is not broken (PvE).
If you’re using snipe in pve you’re honestly what’s wrong with this game. Likely can’t even break 20k dps
If You think that then it's You what is wrong with the game.
Yes because I absolutely love doing vet dungeon dailies and having a snipe spammer dps who does wet noodle dps as my other dps then wonders why he’s a complete floormat
Weak players will be weak no matter what they're using. Fact that someone who was weak was doing low DPS while wearing bow/bow setup doesnt mean that bow/bow setup is weak in general. Context matters.5