Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

I just dont see how wearing the same thing you plan to wear in trials constitutes cheese.

The problem with those two sets is management.

Reli is not an introductory set. In any content with boss lockout mechanics, it will perform as effectively as it will against a dummy. So, you have to spin it back up. Any fight with adds, and you're going to need to keep spinning it up. The set looks excellent on paper, and performs on a dummy, but can quickly get messy in live content.

Similar problem with Siroria. The set requires you to engage in carefully managed movement. If you can do that, great. If you can keep siroria spun up, more power to you. However, spinning it up on a dummy just means performing your rotation. Spinning it up in any content where you need to move, on the boss's schedule (which is to say, almost all DLC content at some point) the set will rapidly start to underperform, to the point that the wearer would perform better if they were simply running Juli.

This isn't an indictment of you. It's that most players who use those sets on dummies, cannot get the same kind of value out of them in live content. So both sets become parse cheese. A lot of damage that cannot be replicated in a dungeon or trial.

And, don't get me started on the players who use Reli in overland content. At that point, nothing will live long enough to fully spin up the set, and you'd be better off running VO.

I guess I get what you are saying, but that is true of almost everything regarding your parse. Everything is harder in actual content from managing your potion and ultimate use, managing your buffs and debuffs, managing your dots, maintaining an effective weave (especially with lag), and with some sets, managing them specifically as well.

Your parse is of course a reflection of what you can do in an ideal set of circumstances, and real content is not always ideal. But I just think it makes you sound a little silly (sorry dont have a better term here) to suggest that the Meta damage sets for the last year are cheese in it of themselves. The other thing to note is that assuming you are talking self buffed dummy parses, you will likely pull more (not less) in actual content because you are getting group buffs on any fight where you can stack and whack, which frankly is a majority of them. Sure, some fights have too many mechanics so you are never going to get a decent parse (if boss goes invulnerable for example), but these arent the fights people tend use as a metric anyway.