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Kill 10 enemies covered in pie in cyro?
generalmyrick
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What's the least frustrating way to do this?
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Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
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Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I got it yesterday on my magicka Sorcerer character.
It involved about 150 pies and 2 hours of sieging and defending keeps.
Basically, you have to spam it shortly before an enemy dies and get the killing blow.
Only doing damage will not advance your progression towards this achievement.
My last kill for this achievement was in 1v2 and I killed them both a bit after my meteor him them!Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
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Artim_X✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Grab a friend or guildmate that is in a different faction from you and kill each other 10 times in Cyrodiil while covered in pie.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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✭I'm seeing multiple people talking about it in Cyro and basically deciding that it is a pita and maybe they should just get a friend or guildie to stand there and die for them 10 times, because the intended way is extremely frustrating people.PC-NA - formerly, mommadani907Guild: Weeping Angels - Co-GMTwitter: @ Loralai_907 several Alt accounts....CP 1700+Active characters:Fauna Rosewood ( Bosmer Stam DK - Master Crafter/AD)///Loralai Darknova (Drunken Zombie Bosmer Stam Sorc - PvP/AD)Lilith Darknova ( Dunmer Mag DK - Master Crafter - PvP/AD)///and roughly 1billion alts10 -
Osteos✭✭✭✭✭
✭I got 5/10 done yesterday. Just throwing them at people and trying to get the killing blow. There's a delay after throwing the pie or it might have been just Vivec lag. I pied a few DC on accident trying to hit enemies
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✭✭People in multiple guilds are just coordinating going to a hidden corner somewhere and killing each other, one guild even doing it as a group between 3 alliances and reviving each other.
Doing it doing zergling wars sounds like a nightmare, taking my quickslot potion spot for some colored pie while wondering if it fired, or trying to get my skills to fire? Uh no thanks ZoS.love is love6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭FlopsyPrince wrote: »
I agree, but unfortunately this achievement is so much easier to get when you cheese it. I'd say if they didn't want people to earn it this way, they really needed to think it through a bit more. Many people will always try and find the easiest way of accomplishing things, even in games such as this. As long as it doesn't enter exploit territory, I have no issue with it. I do agree that it's a horribly designed achievement though.12 -
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✭✭Whoever made the rule that credit is given to the killing blow really didn't think it through properly.21 -
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✭✭✭It could have been a glorious achievement. I envisioned zerg vs zerg pie-slinging fests.
Instead, it is a pita that is best disposed of quickly and quietly by cheesing.
Fail.
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generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭It could have been a glorious achievement. I envisioned zerg vs zerg pie-slinging fests.
Instead, it is a pita that is best disposed of quickly and quietly by cheesing.
Fail.
agreed.
"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
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✭✭✭✭✭I think it is faulty to begin with, for example classes with no execute (harder time getting killing blows) have much harder time doing so. I mean. I can't even imagine how annoying it is not to cheese it with the lag
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✭✭✭✭✭Not sure if it was glitched for us or not but we had a few people killing each other. I threw a pie and did one light attack. Another player then killed the player I threw the pie at. I got the credit and the player dealing the killing blow did not.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."1 -
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✭Get with a friend or two of opposing factions and head in. Pie, kill, repeat till done.1 -
Mudcrabber✭✭✭✭I killed someone 10 times outside of Bleaker's (DC owned), then they killed me 10 times outside of Chalman (EP owned).
If you do 2v2 you can skip the travel-after-respawn delays. My guild organized a pie gathering but I missed it.2 -
nryerson1025✭✭✭✭make sure you throw the pie when the enemy is nearing their death. at first, i started out throwing it immediately, but then it would wear off by the time i killed them and i wouldnt get a kill toward achievement.2 -
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✭✭✭This is nearly impossible to do legit as a solo player it seems. In PvE the pie seems to last forever. 1 on 1 in PvP, it was gone in like five seconds. Zerg surfing is almost as bad. It's hard to throw pies with such a short interval and keep the damage pressure up. It might work better if you have others throwing pies for you.Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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nryerson1025✭✭✭✭if you're a pvp'er, its easiest as a solo player. get enemy in execute range, throw pie, execute1
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✭I think it is faulty to begin with, for example classes with no execute (harder time getting killing blows) have much harder time doing so. I mean. I can't even imagine how annoying it is not to cheese it with the lag
free class change tokens? ;-) (THIS IS A JOKE)
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Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
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Pyr0xyrecuprotite✭✭✭✭✭Little things like the using the pie putting your weapon away, and big things like the undocumented cooldown - yes those both make it harder to get the Messy Business achievement.
From what I have seen cheesing this with guildmates in Cyro, it's something like a two-minute cooldown for both the player doing the killing AND the victim. That is,- If you have pied and killed someone within the past 2 minutes, you won't get credit for another player kill
- If the person you pie and kill was killed by someone else for the achievement in the past 2 minutes, you also won't get credit for the kill
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✭✭✭✭Why do they call it "Achievement", when people think they do Not have to Earn it?
So weird.
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✭Pyr0xyrecuprotite wrote: »- two-minute cooldown for both the player doing the killing AND the victim. That is,
- If you have pied and killed someone within the past 2 minutes, you won't get credit for another player kill
- If the person you pie and kill was killed by someone else for the achievement in the past 2 minutes, you also won't get credit for the kill
Not true. I was cheesing this with a few alts and with those who had the DPS power I could kill the same player two times (with a rez between) on the same pie, and it would count two.
The mechanic is very wonky though. Throwing a pie while battling messes with your skills and rotation. Doesn't seem to go, until the enemy turns a different color.
Attacking an enemy first, and then having a player with less DPS finish them off would not count the kill for them. Possibly because they hadn't initiated combat, or maybe because the pie wasn't theirs. The only way it would count was to have the low level player start combat, throw the pie, I'd throw some LAs to bring the health down faster, and then they'd finish it off, getting credit.
If they had given credit for it if any player on your group got the killing blow like the kill-20 quest, or from ANY source of pie and not just your own, this would not need to be cheesed.2 - two-minute cooldown for both the player doing the killing AND the victim. That is,
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Agree, that and that you have to use consumable pies makes this an nightmare to get unless you are skilled at pvp.Whoever made the rule that credit is given to the killing blow really didn't think it through properly.
And this is an joke achievement.
Had they made it doing damage on player covered in pie who dies before pie ends it would be fine and easy.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.2 -
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Agree, that and that you have to use consumable pies makes this an nightmare to get unless you are skilled at pvp.Whoever made the rule that credit is given to the killing blow really didn't think it through properly.
And this is an joke achievement.
Had they made it doing damage on player covered in pie who dies before pie ends it would be fine and easy.
^ instead of massive cheating going around. Seriously bad game design for this achievement.2 -
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Yes, we found that you should do damage, then trow pie then burn them.Pyr0xyrecuprotite wrote: »- two-minute cooldown for both the player doing the killing AND the victim. That is,
- If you have pied and killed someone within the past 2 minutes, you won't get credit for another player kill
- If the person you pie and kill was killed by someone else for the achievement in the past 2 minutes, you also won't get credit for the kill
Not true. I was cheesing this with a few alts and with those who had the DPS power I could kill the same player two times (with a rez between) on the same pie, and it would count two.
The mechanic is very wonky though. Throwing a pie while battling messes with your skills and rotation. Doesn't seem to go, until the enemy turns a different color.
Attacking an enemy first, and then having a player with less DPS finish them off would not count the kill for them. Possibly because they hadn't initiated combat, or maybe because the pie wasn't theirs. The only way it would count was to have the low level player start combat, throw the pie, I'd throw some LAs to bring the health down faster, and then they'd finish it off, getting credit.
If they had given credit for it if any player on your group got the killing blow like the kill-20 quest, or from ANY source of pie and not just your own, this would not need to be cheesed.
Also if you do this over time as in large group or many alts. Do it in an delve as it does not show up in map
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.1 - two-minute cooldown for both the player doing the killing AND the victim. That is,
