Sword and Board DPS?

Cladius30
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So what if i made a warden stamina dps but only used class attack skills and attack skills that don't involve using a weapon skill.
If i did this and by adding a shield would it not work for extra protection while dpsing?
  • Cladius30
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    Anyone know if this would work?
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Yes it is viable.
  • Cladius30
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    Thanks
  • SoLooney
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    What skills in the s and b are you gonna use to increase your dps? All the skills there are meant to tank and hold aggro of bosses

    I guess you can make it work but you're holding yourself back by not using actually weapon skill lines and their passives like dual wield, bow and 2h.

    But hey, I guess up to you
  • Ahzek
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    You would trade the weapon damage and enchantment from the offhand, as well as the DW passives, for the resistances and enchantment from the shield, and some passives that dont do anything.
    Could it work? For most content probably. Is it smart? Most definetly not.
    Content is made so regular DDs can survive it. Making you DD tankier is pointless for easier content and actually a hinderance for harder content.
    In the end it depends on what you want to do with the build, and with whom.
    Edited by Ahzek on March 16, 2019 3:38PM
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  • Cladius30
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    SoLooney wrote: »
    What skills in the s and b are you gonna use to increase your dps? All the skills there are meant to tank and hold aggro of bosses

    I guess you can make it work but you're holding yourself back by not using actually weapon skill lines and their passives like dual wield, bow and 2h.

    But hey, I guess up to you

    im not using any skills in the s and b line thats the point..
  • usmcjdking
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    S&B DPS isn't actually all too bad, but it's largely hinging on la/skill/bash to make up for the lost damage from running something else - which is EXTREMELY costly and almost locks you into Maelstrom S&B (since S&B heavy is pretty quick, it's reasonable to use it IMO).
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  • zvavi
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    I don't see a reason to run vMA s/b on a stamina dd, since it gives back magicka
    Edited by zvavi on March 17, 2019 3:58AM
  • goldenarcher1
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    zvavi wrote: »
    I don't see a reason to run vMA s/b on a stamina dd, since it gives back magicka


    That magicka return would be useful on my stam DK for keeping wings up on Frozen blood stage especially.

    I'll give it a try just for the hell of it with VMA bow+S&B,5 TFS body,Chudan Monster set and agility jewellery.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Well, for pvp/solo content S&B is amazing, ransack is spammable of your dream and charge is gap closer with stun.
  • Alucardo
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    usmcjdking wrote: »
    S&B DPS isn't actually all too bad, but it's largely hinging on la/skill/bash to make up for the lost damage from running something else - which is EXTREMELY costly and almost locks you into Maelstrom S&B (since S&B heavy is pretty quick, it's reasonable to use it IMO).

    If you're to do that I would recommend binding interrupt to a separate key. By default, ESO uses RMB+LMB for bash, but this costs you to lose a small amount of regen in the process. While not much, it adds up over time while SnB weaving.
    With the right CP allocation, and maybe some cost reduction on jewellery, SnB DPS will cost you very little.
  • Cladius30
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    I wouldn't be using any s and b skills just warden skills and other non weapon skills
  • akredon_ESO
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    Maybe look into LA/LS/Crushing weapon/bash if you could if it in there set up ? I mean S/B light attacks are pretty quick so you might be able to work up a good weave of those skills. and then add bow back bar for added dps
  • Cladius30
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    Maybe look into LA/LS/Crushing weapon/bash if you could if it in there set up ? I mean S/B light attacks are pretty quick so you might be able to work up a good weave of those skills. and then add bow back bar for added dps

    not really focusing on using my weapon for much of anything
  • T3hasiangod
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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=-tKz7wXVZbk

    Possible to do "good" DPS? Yes. Will it be better than a DW/bow, 2H/bow, or a bow/bow build? Nope. Especially after the 1H enchant nerf.
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  • Iskiab
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    It’s missing rending and crit so DW will outperform S&B.
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  • Siohwenoeht
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    Cladius30 wrote: »
    Maybe look into LA/LS/Crushing weapon/bash if you could if it in there set up ? I mean S/B light attacks are pretty quick so you might be able to work up a good weave of those skills. and then add bow back bar for added dps

    not really focusing on using my weapon for much of anything

    You'll still need LA weaving to get decent dps, no reason not to swing that sword between gcd on skills.
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  • Wing
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    yup it works, classes like templar that have great spamables built in can get away with it pretty well.
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  • mzprx
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    well, i am working on a new tank, Imperial DK and since levelling skills, collecting skyshards/lorebooks and general overland gameplay sucks as a tank (you have no DPS whatsoever) i came up with an idea that will make him (my shiny new tank) viable as a quester/overland explorer/fun dungeon run DD. here's how i did it -

    1) vMA Infused bow (back bar) with the weapon damage glyph
    2) Velidreth moster set (1x heavy 1x medium)
    3) Bone Pirate set on body (chest/legs/hands/belt/boots), all Infused with Stamina enchants because as a tank i have 50-60 points in health and need as much additional stamina as possible without having to re-spec every time i switch from "DD" to a tank and Divines is of no use as the Mundus is Attronach (Magicka recovery) and i do not want to have to go and switch Mundus stones every time i switch my setups
    4) Knight-Errant's Mail jewelry and 1H/S (Sharpened with the Absorb Stamina glyph). for those who do not know this set (i used to be one of you, for a long time i sold every piece i got 'cause "i don't need this crap") -
    • (2 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
    • (3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    • (4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    • (5 items) Adds 200 Weapon Damage to your One Hand and Shield abilities. When you use a One Hand and Shield ability, you heal for 1250 Health.

    for my back bar skills i (will, as he is not a lvl 50 yet) use the usual bow DPS skills, Endless Hail, Caltrops, Rearming Trap, Poison Injection and Flames of Oblivion (because why not?), on my front bar i (again, will) use Engulfing Flames (since this is a tank first, DD second and Noxious Breath is of no use for tanks. Flames, on the other hand...), Venomous Claw, (and from the 1H/S skill line) Power Slam, Heroic Slash and Pierce Armor. the Ultimates are Ballista and (i guess, not 100% sure yet) either Aggressive Warhorn or Take Flight. perhaps even Corrosive Armor..

    this setup will make a tank somewhat viable as a DD. you can run with the tank attributes/CP and still have enough stamina, stamina recovery and damage to be able to enjoy the game and all it gives you. your DPS will not be anything close to "end game DPS" but trying to kill a delve boss will not make you want to pull all your hair out in rage. and you don't need to lvl up another skill line (like DW or 2H) to do any damage at all, just the Bow line is needed..
    Edited by mzprx on March 23, 2019 1:02PM
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  • Cladius30
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    Cladius30 wrote: »
    Maybe look into LA/LS/Crushing weapon/bash if you could if it in there set up ? I mean S/B light attacks are pretty quick so you might be able to work up a good weave of those skills. and then add bow back bar for added dps

    not really focusing on using my weapon for much of anything

    You'll still need LA weaving to get decent dps, no reason not to swing that sword between gcd on skills.

    I'm not a min maxer or competing for top dps , i don't LA weave. just find it irritating.
  • Mojmir
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    Grothdaar/BSW/ bloodthorn. Good times
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