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Bring overload bar back.

Micah_Bayer
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Sorcerer bar is probably the most cluttered of bars when placing pets or toggles on your bar, sorcerer is also the class with the most toggles and in having all those toggles and pets, I personally think that removing the extra overload bar was a mistake. No one asked for it to be removed. Just replace the power overload morph, no one uses that one.
  • stephbay123
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    The toggles and pets are a choice. What u are asking for is to have all the extras you want plus an extra bar for more skills. Sorcs make a choice between what they use, the same as all other classes, and the same as other classes they get two bars. Seems fair.
  • Dragneel1207
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    give all classes pets then we can talk about a 3rd bar
  • Katahdin
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    Give all classes a third bar
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  • mknepfler
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    They will never add a 3rd bar because of console. There wouldn't be a way to make it work there. They just need to make pets active when only slotted on a single bar.
  • Danksta
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    mknepfler wrote: »
    They will never add a 3rd bar because of console. There wouldn't be a way to make it work there. They just need to make pets active when only slotted on a single bar.

    lulz
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  • Coggo
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    Make the 3rd bar the Undaunted Ultimate.
  • NordSwordnBoard
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    mknepfler wrote: »
    They will never add a 3rd bar because of console. There wouldn't be a way to make it work there. They just need to make pets active when only slotted on a single bar.

    L1+R1= Overload Bar
    Go to skills menu and slot different skills while in Overload

    No, you can't blame console this time. Wow.
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  • AlienatedGoat
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    mknepfler wrote: »
    They will never add a 3rd bar because of console. There wouldn't be a way to make it work there. They just need to make pets active when only slotted on a single bar.

    You know that sorcs had a 3rd bar option with Overload for like 4 years right? It was only removed recently.
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  • Mojmir
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    Sure, right after i get my DK from 1.5 back
  • Gilvoth
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    please bring back the fast sneak speeds we once had where we could sneak as fast as horses run and you can have your overload back.
    win - win :)
  • mknepfler
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    mknepfler wrote: »
    They will never add a 3rd bar because of console. There wouldn't be a way to make it work there. They just need to make pets active when only slotted on a single bar.

    L1+R1= Overload Bar
    Go to skills menu and slot different skills while in Overload

    No, you can't blame console this time. Wow.

    You're a ***. Wow.
  • TequilaFire
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    mknepfler wrote: »
    mknepfler wrote: »
    They will never add a 3rd bar because of console. There wouldn't be a way to make it work there. They just need to make pets active when only slotted on a single bar.

    L1+R1= Overload Bar
    Go to skills menu and slot different skills while in Overload

    No, you can't blame console this time. Wow.

    You're a ***. Wow.

    At least he knows what he is talking about.
  • Houshiki
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    The toggles and pets are a choice. What u are asking for is to have all the extras you want plus an extra bar for more skills. Sorcs make a choice between what they use, the same as all other classes, and the same as other classes they get two bars. Seems fair.
    Right, right, choices... So how many abilities do other classes have that require being double slotted to be usable? It'd also be nice to able to slot something more useful than bound aegis but we kind of need the max mag it gives. Must be nice for NBs to get that as a passive and be able to slot something else.

    Anyways, yes, there are choices, but its not like all those choices are good. You can either be highly constrained b/c of abilities limiting bar space but be able to do something noteworthy, or not slot said abilities and lose out on class passives and bonuses that really should just be passives.

    And btw, the 3rd bar was one of the few things sorcs had that distinguished it as its own unique class. Removing what makes a class unique and different, defeats the purpose of having classes, imo.
  • david_m_18b16_ESO
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    IMO even the 2 bar was a mistake. I wish they had come with a bether system
  • idk
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    The toggles and pets are a choice.

    This.

    And the sorc has had a big advantage of a third bar, allowing placement of additional skills, that no other class has had. Yes, I really enjoyed those extra skills on my sorc, but could clearly see the strong advantage.
  • Ankael07
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    People overestimate Overload bar like Sorcs used those skills with the press of a button. The ulti was clearly visible and clunky to even activate and if you didnt slot any shield there you would be vulnerable to combos.

    You had to think ahead and reposition yourself to actually utilize the 3rd bar in a fight
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  • Morgul667
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    Ankael07 wrote: »
    People overestimate Overload bar like Sorcs used those skills with the press of a button. The ulti was clearly visible and clunky to even activate and if you didnt slot any shield there you would be vulnerable to combos.

    You had to think ahead and reposition yourself to actually utilize the 3rd bar in a fight

    Yeah

    Actually took experience to use it
  • Ertosi
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    ZOS once mentioned the third bar mechanic which was previously attached to Overload was a unique mechanic which could only be used for one thing at a time. Since the third bar was recently removed from Overload, they probably did so for the purpose of adding it to some other feature they have planned further down the road.
    Edited by Ertosi on March 19, 2019 11:27PM
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  • WeerW3ir
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    yeah... sorc not the same without it
  • Nerouyn
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    Personally I prefer the new version but have used it not much more than the old one.

    It's kind of cool to be shooting lightning bolts out of our hands - like in the good, old, single player games - but that's so much fun that when my ultimate ran out I made a sad face. So I unslotted and forgot about it. Again.

    I should play with it some more...

  • MirkoZ
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    The only change I would make to sorc rn is to make overload good again with his bar...
  • Tasear
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    I don't know 3rd bar was just banaid for real problems.
  • Emma_Overload
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    Nah. Third bar was way too clunky, only good for zerg sorcs who don't have to worry about getting focused while trying to switch in or out of it. Good riddance!
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  • starkerealm
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    Sorcerer bar is probably the most cluttered of bars when placing pets or toggles on your bar, sorcerer is also the class with the most toggles and in having all those toggles and pets, I personally think that removing the extra overload bar was a mistake. No one asked for it to be removed. Just replace the power overload morph, no one uses that one.

    No, please no. The overload bar was always... weird.

    What would be nice is if pets (and other toggles) were reworked to be single bar. It is possible, and there's some long duration buffs that would be less annoying if they functioned as toggles.

    So, the third bar, no, but you've got a point about the pets, and there is a better way now. Just asking for that.
  • commodore64
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    Drop the pets, you'll become a better player for it IMHO.
  • Aedrion
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    Yea guys. Pet's are a choice, a bad choice because there's no room on bars after that.
    So you know, f'ck you and your favourite playstyle. Play something else.

    And you know, you'll be a 'better player for it'. A player that is forced to play the same meta as everybody else and shoehorned into ye classic magsroc but it'll be better.

    This thread is full of ignorant. No good sorc used Overload, it's a dead ulti.
  • Digiman
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    Gotta love the posts about sorcs wanting to have their cake and *** it too.... really ignorant.

    That bar was a *** to set up since you needed ultimate to switch to it. I personally like the new system as I can use my weapon abilities more.
  • ezio45
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    The toggles and pets are a choice. What u are asking for is to have all the extras you want plus an extra bar for more skills. Sorcs make a choice between what they use, the same as all other classes, and the same as other classes they get two bars. Seems fair.

    except for the ya know, double bar'd pets and useless one function skills
  • eso_lags
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    we will never get that bar back. zos doesnt know how to admit they're wrong, nor do they know how to balance a game.. And the removal of the 3rd bar hurt stam sorcs more than anything.

    But of course haters will hate. Sorcs had a 3rd bar for nearly the entire time of the game, now its gone. Ya it was strong but so is any other staple skill of a class. BOL, cloak, POTL, shade, incap, corrosive, etc.. Many classes have very strong things but sorc doesn't deserve strong things either. Thats how people want it and you can see it shine with stam sorc..

    It actually shows a lot about the dev team that they would ever nerf stam sorc, even in the slightest, while stamblade and stamden are the way they are.. Even some other classes.. It just shows how out they are with this game.
  • Juhasow
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    With the current buff to pets I dont think return of overload 3rd bar would be good for the game. I would rather preffer general redo of this ability to be for example ultimate that costs X and when used gives Y seconds of empower. That would do 2 things - eliminate clunckiness of light attacks we currently have and made that ultimate usefull for both stamina and magicka setups equally.
    Edited by Juhasow on March 20, 2019 10:05AM
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