Saltypretzels wrote: »Cause that happened to me and I'm mad about it.
gave me a whispered explanation afterwards that I wasn't using the right tank skills.
This was a random normal dungeon using the dungeon finder. I'm a returning player trying to get my feet under myself again. It takes 3 people to kick, so don't be one of these jerks.Give people a chance to learn.
I just needed to vent. Thanks.
Saltypretzels wrote: »Cause that happened to me and I'm mad about it.
They should have told you something was wrong and given you a chance to correct it. That's not representative for a normal dungeon pug. Try to let it just bounce off of ya' and go about your business. As a tank, you can re-queue pretty fast.
GimpyPorcupine wrote: »If you were taunting, then they're jerks. But if you weren't taunting, then you're the jerk for faking your role. I've had plenty of fakers admit that they were just trying to bypass the long DPS queue. That's why I always vote to kick fakes, and drop group if the vote fails.
That is correct, if group is full of noobs they might not know this.Don't let it get to you. I've had my tank kicked from Darkshade II because you can't taunt or CC the Engine Guardian, and so a tank's not needed. You'll be able to find other instances where you do everything needed, and you still get kicked, such as letting in a friend just for the final boss, because they didn't want to carry them all the way. Stuff happens.
Also correct, yes you can run into groups who are nice but not capable like trashy / noob builds in MoS or bloodroot, however hanging out here is an good training for vet mode as you have to follow mechanic.KatzMainTank wrote: »if they're going into normals RELYING on proper/preferred tank skills then they did you a favor.
I'd rather be kicked then suffer 5 minutes of bowtard light attack spamming and miss ice staff of clueless and can't read heavy attacking then running out of the room and resetting when they pull aggro.
Saltypretzels wrote: »Yeah I was taunting. I was chaining, I was using choking talons, I was doing igneous shield combined with green dragon blood.. I suppose I was using banner instead of warhorn. Perhaps I hit a few buttons wrong a few times.
Thanks for the kind replies. It was a strange experience. I encourage people not to kick players who are present and trying. If things are that bad, it is YOU who should leave. At least in dungeon finder group.
I think a one problem is being able to spam "vote to kick". I've repeatedly voted "no" to kick a player because I could tell that they were trying and there had been no discussion between us about removing them. But one person just spammed vote to kick so many times that I ended up just voting yes so we could finish the damn dungeon.
There should be a cooldown on voting to kick so that one player can't spam the others until they agree. I'm always happy to spend a bit longer on a dungeon if there's a newer or inexperienced player. People shouldn't pug unless they're willing to accept that not everyone they group with will be super fast or efficient.
Saltypretzels wrote: »Cause that happened to me and I'm mad about it.
gave me a whispered explanation afterwards that I wasn't using the right tank skills.
This was a random normal dungeon using the dungeon finder. I'm a returning player trying to get my feet under myself again. It takes 3 people to kick, so don't be one of these jerks.Give people a chance to learn.
I just needed to vent. Thanks.
You learned to use tank skills as a tank... exp gained
For a normal run, it is a lil bit harsh, but i can understand that the grp wants their members to fulfill their designated role (as you que as such). For example, if we get a "DD-Tank" (norm or vet, who cares), and he/she can't write or is not nice, kicked.... why should we shuttle pseudo tanks through an instance ? my 2 septims.
Well, sometimes I also ignore such ppl, do the dungeon, and leave without words, because they would be wasted on them
Edit:
Pls, no harsh feelings, IF some1 writes that he/she is inexp., or just started to play again, that's a diff. story... BUT COMMUNICATION IS NEEDED !No comm, no grp. It's a mmo not an single player game.
bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »Saltypretzels wrote: »Yeah I was taunting. I was chaining, I was using choking talons, I was doing igneous shield combined with green dragon blood.. I suppose I was using banner instead of warhorn. Perhaps I hit a few buttons wrong a few times.
Thanks for the kind replies. It was a strange experience. I encourage people not to kick players who are present and trying. If things are that bad, it is YOU who should leave. At least in dungeon finder group.
lol this happened to me in Spindle of all places. I was on my 810 tank, we were thru 3 bosses no deaths and once we killed it they kicked me. And man their dps sucked lol. Above was all i was doing too. Normal random. Sucks lol but oh well. Lets 4 tank a dungeon F DPS lol.
Don't let it get to you. I've had my tank kicked from Darkshade II because you can't taunt or CC the Engine Guardian, and so a tank's not needed. You'll be able to find other instances where you do everything needed, and you still get kicked, such as letting in a friend just for the final boss, because they didn't want to carry them all the way. Stuff happens.
GimpyPorcupine wrote: »If you were taunting, then they're jerks. But if you weren't taunting, then you're the jerk for faking your role. I've had plenty of fakers admit that they were just trying to bypass the long DPS queue. That's why I always vote to kick fakes, and drop group if the vote fails.
Androconium wrote: »GimpyPorcupine wrote: »If you were taunting, then they're jerks. But if you weren't taunting, then you're the jerk for faking your role. I've had plenty of fakers admit that they were just trying to bypass the long DPS queue. That's why I always vote to kick fakes, and drop group if the vote fails.
You aren't good enough to carry them, then?
They should have told you something was wrong and given you a chance to correct it. That's not representative for a normal dungeon pug. Try to let it just bounce off of ya' and go about your business. As a tank, you can re-queue pretty fast.
bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »Saltypretzels wrote: »Yeah I was taunting. I was chaining, I was using choking talons, I was doing igneous shield combined with green dragon blood.. I suppose I was using banner instead of warhorn. Perhaps I hit a few buttons wrong a few times.
Thanks for the kind replies. It was a strange experience. I encourage people not to kick players who are present and trying. If things are that bad, it is YOU who should leave. At least in dungeon finder group.
lol this happened to me in Spindle of all places. I was on my 810 tank, we were thru 3 bosses no deaths and once we killed it they kicked me. And man their dps sucked lol. Above was all i was doing too. Normal random. Sucks lol but oh well. Lets 4 tank a dungeon F DPS lol.
Saltypretzels wrote: »Cause that happened to me and I'm mad about it.
Kicked without any word, no explanation, and blocked immediately by 2 of the 3 other players. The one other player was nicer, and at least gave me a whispered explanation afterwards that I wasn't using the right tank skills. Though he must have voted to kick me, so he is not innocent. But I got us through the first boss without any deaths and we were just finding trash mobs when I was kicked. I wasn't AFK, and I was trying my best.
This was a random normal dungeon using the dungeon finder. I'm a returning player trying to get my feet under myself again. It takes 3 people to kick, so don't be one of these jerks.Give people a chance to learn.
I just needed to vent. Thanks.
I think a one problem is being able to spam "vote to kick". I've repeatedly voted "no" to kick a player because I could tell that they were trying and there had been no discussion between us about removing them. But one person just spammed vote to kick so many times that I ended up just voting yes so we could finish the damn dungeon.
There should be a cooldown on voting to kick so that one player can't spam the others until they agree. I'm always happy to spend a bit longer on a dungeon if there's a newer or inexperienced player. People shouldn't pug unless they're willing to accept that not everyone they group with will be super fast or efficient.
Yes. This is a problem. A lot of times they will sneak in a vote kick right before a boss fight as well and other players accidentally click it believing it's a ready check.
LeagueTroll wrote: »bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »Saltypretzels wrote: »Yeah I was taunting. I was chaining, I was using choking talons, I was doing igneous shield combined with green dragon blood.. I suppose I was using banner instead of warhorn. Perhaps I hit a few buttons wrong a few times.
Thanks for the kind replies. It was a strange experience. I encourage people not to kick players who are present and trying. If things are that bad, it is YOU who should leave. At least in dungeon finder group.
lol this happened to me in Spindle of all places. I was on my 810 tank, we were thru 3 bosses no deaths and once we killed it they kicked me. And man their dps sucked lol. Above was all i was doing too. Normal random. Sucks lol but oh well. Lets 4 tank a dungeon F DPS lol.
I get kicked for says ‘dps is low’ time to time on my tank, nothing to do with skills, this type of behaviour is pure vendetta. Ofc i take my stand so i kick the fake dd every time i can. If more ppl do the same, these potatoes will know where they belong.
LeagueTroll wrote: »bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »Saltypretzels wrote: »Yeah I was taunting. I was chaining, I was using choking talons, I was doing igneous shield combined with green dragon blood.. I suppose I was using banner instead of warhorn. Perhaps I hit a few buttons wrong a few times.
Thanks for the kind replies. It was a strange experience. I encourage people not to kick players who are present and trying. If things are that bad, it is YOU who should leave. At least in dungeon finder group.
lol this happened to me in Spindle of all places. I was on my 810 tank, we were thru 3 bosses no deaths and once we killed it they kicked me. And man their dps sucked lol. Above was all i was doing too. Normal random. Sucks lol but oh well. Lets 4 tank a dungeon F DPS lol.
I get kicked for says ‘dps is low’ time to time on my tank, nothing to do with skills, this type of behaviour is pure vendetta. Ofc i take my stand so i kick the fake dd every time i can. If more ppl do the same, these potatoes will know where they belong.
No such a thing as fake DD though. Bad dd, yes, fake no.
I have been always saying that PVE players are insecured crybabies.
Go questing and, watch some tutorials on YT and play PVP - one day you will laugh at PVE noobs.
LeagueTroll wrote: »LeagueTroll wrote: »bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »Saltypretzels wrote: »Yeah I was taunting. I was chaining, I was using choking talons, I was doing igneous shield combined with green dragon blood.. I suppose I was using banner instead of warhorn. Perhaps I hit a few buttons wrong a few times.
Thanks for the kind replies. It was a strange experience. I encourage people not to kick players who are present and trying. If things are that bad, it is YOU who should leave. At least in dungeon finder group.
lol this happened to me in Spindle of all places. I was on my 810 tank, we were thru 3 bosses no deaths and once we killed it they kicked me. And man their dps sucked lol. Above was all i was doing too. Normal random. Sucks lol but oh well. Lets 4 tank a dungeon F DPS lol.
I get kicked for says ‘dps is low’ time to time on my tank, nothing to do with skills, this type of behaviour is pure vendetta. Ofc i take my stand so i kick the fake dd every time i can. If more ppl do the same, these potatoes will know where they belong.
No such a thing as fake DD though. Bad dd, yes, fake no.
Yes there is. A dd doing less dmg than the tank is surely a fake.