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Mail and a "What If" MAIL SCAMP!

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generalmyrick
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This one was wondering...from anywhere, practically, we can send mail. What is that "mail?" Like, is there a mail man?
Also, I love those trove/cunning scamps!
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So, I was like what if! When we sent mail (maybe if you dont pay the postage???) it was taken by something like one of these scamps and hopped along in and out of portals til it gets to its destination?
with the idea that = if intercepted half, or all, of the mail was lost to the person lucky enough to stumble up on the "Mail Scamp!"
and = we could upgrade it's stats and stuff.

IDK, i thought it was a fun idea but now I'm worried it will get pooped on.
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Mail and a "What If" MAIL SCAMP! 29 votes

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Donnasnowheart_ESOsrfrogg23feyiibarney2525jainiadralCundu_ErturGrandma 7 votes
it sucks!
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love it! that would be neat!
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  • jainiadral
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    I love the scamp as delivery service-- seriously, how fun is that? Answer: too much :smiley: On the other hand, gambling with mail-- no way, no how. Mail is a fundamental service in MMOs. It shouldn't be messed with.
  • generalmyrick
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    jainiadral wrote: »
    I love the scamp as delivery service-- seriously, how fun is that? Answer: too much :smiley: On the other hand, gambling with mail-- no way, no how. Mail is a fundamental service in MMOs. It shouldn't be messed with.

    yes of course, that's why i had to add that part about if you choose not to pay the postage. ;-)
    "The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

    Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
    Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"

    Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019

    Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    it sucks!
    It would be a very nice idea if ESo were a single player game. As far as I know, delivery pet service and stuff like that is widely implemented in inventory management designs for single player games.

    But in an MMO, it's just impossible. As already mentioned, it's a fundamental service and should be 100% reliable. And should it be 100% reliable (no RNG, pure cosmetics), it would be fun the first 5 minutes, and then a true annoyance for the rest of the game. Like Nuzimeh and her fellow banker Andromo. They're pretty handy and useful, but noone thinks they're nice or fun to look at anymore.

    A "scamp service" could be implemented in parallel to the mail system, not replacing it. With a risk of loosing stuff. Nice idea, but what would be the reward for using it ?
    Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on March 14, 2019 12:35PM
  • jainiadral
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    generalmyrick wrote: »
    jainiadral wrote: »
    I love the scamp as delivery service-- seriously, how fun is that? Answer: too much :smiley: On the other hand, gambling with mail-- no way, no how. Mail is a fundamental service in MMOs. It shouldn't be messed with.

    yes of course, that's why i had to add that part about if you choose not to pay the postage. ;-)

    I'm seeing some unfun stuff happening with that. Like guild traders going cheap and you wind up losing your purchase. Your hirelings revolt and all you get is a sad, "Scamp stole your mail" message.
  • generalmyrick
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    jainiadral wrote: »
    generalmyrick wrote: »
    jainiadral wrote: »
    I love the scamp as delivery service-- seriously, how fun is that? Answer: too much :smiley: On the other hand, gambling with mail-- no way, no how. Mail is a fundamental service in MMOs. It shouldn't be messed with.

    yes of course, that's why i had to add that part about if you choose not to pay the postage. ;-)

    I'm seeing some unfun stuff happening with that. Like guild traders going cheap and you wind up losing your purchase. Your hirelings revolt and all you get is a sad, "Scamp stole your mail" message.

    ah! good point, can't be applied to guild trader mail or maybe the immersion isn't broken if we think of tax taking care of the mail? :-)
    "The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

    Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
    Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"

    Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019

    Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.
  • generalmyrick
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    anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »
    It would be a very nice idea if ESo were a single player game. As far as I know, delivery pet service and stuff like that is widely implemented in inventory management designs for single player games.

    But in an MMO, it's just impossible. As already mentioned, it's a fundamental service and should be 100% reliable. And should it be 100% reliable (no RNG, pure cosmetics), it would be fun the first 5 minutes, and then a true annoyance for the rest of the game. Like Nuzimeh and her fellow banker Andromo. They're pretty handy and useful, but noone thinks they're nice or fun to look at anymore.

    A "scamp service" could be implemented in parallel to the mail system, not replacing it. With a risk of loosing stuff. Nice idea, but what would be the reward for using it ?

    im thinking someone wants something very cheap...say, 10 iron ingots.

    well, i don't think iron ingots are worth anything really so i'm like, "f that 10 gold i have to pay!" i'll send them on the cheap scamp mail! :-)

    like i said, its not meant to replace anything already in place...more of

    replace the mandatory fee on a mail. there could be tons of failsafes too...like

    you're sending 100 alloy!? you have elected not pay the cod fee? are you sure? yes. are you sure? yes. are you sure? yes. are you sure? yes. are you sure? yes. are you sure? yes.

    "The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

    Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
    Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"

    Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019

    Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.
  • barney2525
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    I didn't want to say "it sucks", but.... It sucks

    Mail stuff and Lose it???

    That may sound funny, but - Just NO.
  • Inarre
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    I am certain that I already have a mail scamp. That's how my friends receive my mail. Like a post owl but a post scamp.
  • NoTimeToWait
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    love it! that would be neat!
    Came here to read about a new mail scam, thought that OP misspelled the word. The idea is fun, though, it definitely have a feeling of some sort of scam, that I couldn't figure out.

    I would also like an ability to kick scamp's ass the next time he appears after losing my mail. And then scamp would scurry away to whatever oblivion pocket plane he uses to transport mail so fast.

    P.S. Later we could also add a postal mud crab
    Edited by NoTimeToWait on March 14, 2019 3:30PM
  • srfrogg23
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    Never mind. Totally misread the initial post. That's a terrible idea. Having the game steal our mail? Really terrible idea. Probably worse than a "Jump! To Conclusions" mat.
    Edited by srfrogg23 on March 14, 2019 3:40PM
  • Xerikten
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    it sucks!
    oh what a brilliant idea to have a creature that shoots fire to carry PAPER mail and other such valuables. B)
  • redspecter23
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    it sucks!
    There is no way I want anyone to even have a chance to "steal" my mail. Broken suggestion.

    Now if you want to just add it as a visual effect, I'm on board with that.
  • Cundu_Ertur
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    I chose 'other' just because the other negative was too negative. Having mail get intercepted would cause all manner of heartache. I would also worry about the resources that would need to be consumed with a bunch of mail scamps all over the place.
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  • Grandma
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    it would be cute as a passive mechanic, like everyone time you got a mail a scamp would jump out of a portal in front of you and then disappear after a few seconds back into the portal, but i DO NOT Think mail should be a riskable object, that'd be too controversial and problematic.
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  • idk
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    it is an interesting concept but I do not think we need to mess with the mail. Chance are more likely it will break something that currently works fine.
  • generalmyrick
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    thank you all for entertaining my idea! you rocks!
    "The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

    Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
    Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"

    Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019

    Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.
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