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Worthless set challenge
HazelRose
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What are some worthless sets for PvP? I like the challenge of making a somewhat viable build with an obscure set. Been getting bored lately and need something to play around with.
I do need to avoid trial sets and those that are extremely niche. I think it got changed but I'm not going to make that old set with mount speed work.
Any set suggestions?
I do need to avoid trial sets and those that are extremely niche. I think it got changed but I'm not going to make that old set with mount speed work.
Any set suggestions?
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jeedrzej✭✭✭✭✭Worthless... you mean REALLY worthless or just non meta?Jeedrzej - Magica Dragonknight lvl 50
Ealian Elieilijas - Magica Sorcerer lvl 50
Enerias Kazner - Magica Templar lvl 50
Marcelius SIlny - Stamina Dragonknight lvl 50
Anvena Kazner - Stamina NIghtblade lvl 50
Arcynekromantka Anastazja - Magica Nightblade lvl 50
Threiva Krwawooka - Stamina Sorcerer lvl 50
Anvena Karen - Stamina Templat lvl 50
Furia Dorathis - Stamina Dragonknight lvl 50
Verinia Dziecię Światła - Magica Templar lvl 50
Anwen Llenariolis - Magica Warden lvl 50
Welandil Mroźne Serce - Magicka Warden lvl 50
Brunein Silny - Stamina Warden lvl 50
Jilialis Szept Nocy - Magicka Sorcerer lvl 50
Dareiva Tancerka Cieni - Stamina NIghtblade lvl 50
Doweriusz Desson - Magicka Necromancer lvl 40
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is a tricky question. There are very few worthless sets for PVP. Just a ton of sets that require very specific setups to work properly. And often those setups are going to require you to be in a team to be effective.
However, I can think of one set that is pretty pointless. And it would be great if it could be optimized in a build to actually function in PVP:
Oblivion's Foe
If you can make an effective build that utilizes Soul Trap in PVP, my hat is off to you.
(There is the obvious Sithis' Touch. But that set is specifically niche for NPC killing with zero expectation of working in PVP. So I would say it doesn't count)1 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NVM, only works on Soul Trap and not the Ult. Still would be cool to see an effective build using it.Edited by jaws343 on March 13, 2019 3:14PM0 -
Zevrro✭✭✭✭Adept Rider@Zevrro PC-EU
CP 1200+
Azura's Star/Sotha Sil/Bahlokdaan
Magicka Nightblade
AD | Zevrro | Magicka Nightblade | AR43 |
AD | Zevrro II | Magicka Nightblade | AR50 | 09-02-2019 |
DC | Not Zevrro | Magicka Nightblade | AR33 |
EP | Ževrro | Magicka Nightblade | AR14 |Other PvP Characters
AD | Zevrro VII | Stamina Warden | AR33 |
AD | Zevrro XII | Magicka Warden | AR22 |
DC | Not Zevrro II | Magicka Warden | AR14 |
DC | Necrotic Zevrro | Magicka Necromancer | AR17 |
EP | Real-Skyice | Stamina Warden | AR10 |
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HazelRose✭✭✭You know, thinking of Oblivion's Foe now, the Soul Assault tool tip you could get with it could be insane. I already can get a 70K tooltip on my Magden. Doubling that to 140K with Oblivion's Foe. Run it on a sorc with Dragongaurd as the second set and bloodspawn. Getting Soul Assault as a super cheap ult that you could basically spam. That deals an incredible amount of damage. Hmmm. (Have I just talked myself into trying this? Maybe)
My initial thought was a mag blade with oblivions foe. Still working on the concept. Then again, I might need to save this idea for necromancer. Because I'm liking the idea of a necromancer beamed everyone to dust with soul assault.0 -
jeedrzej✭✭✭✭✭Sword Dancer + senche bite + domihaus. On stam DK dual wield + bow. Becouse why notJeedrzej - Magica Dragonknight lvl 50
Ealian Elieilijas - Magica Sorcerer lvl 50
Enerias Kazner - Magica Templar lvl 50
Marcelius SIlny - Stamina Dragonknight lvl 50
Anvena Kazner - Stamina NIghtblade lvl 50
Arcynekromantka Anastazja - Magica Nightblade lvl 50
Threiva Krwawooka - Stamina Sorcerer lvl 50
Anvena Karen - Stamina Templat lvl 50
Furia Dorathis - Stamina Dragonknight lvl 50
Verinia Dziecię Światła - Magica Templar lvl 50
Anwen Llenariolis - Magica Warden lvl 50
Welandil Mroźne Serce - Magicka Warden lvl 50
Brunein Silny - Stamina Warden lvl 50
Jilialis Szept Nocy - Magicka Sorcerer lvl 50
Dareiva Tancerka Cieni - Stamina NIghtblade lvl 50
Doweriusz Desson - Magicka Necromancer lvl 40
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KhajiitFelix✭✭✭✭✭Khajiit stamdk healer bow frontbar resto backbar inner light as a spammable with adept rider and spelunker while wearing vykosa monster helm.0 -
Vietfox✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Noble duelist on a magblade. I used to run this + elegance and kena for some time before the Blur nerf. It was a nice non-meta build but quite worthless now thanks to the changes on evasion.0 -
Kartalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is a tricky question. There are very few worthless sets for PVP. Just a ton of sets that require very specific setups to work properly. And often those setups are going to require you to be in a team to be effective.
However, I can think of one set that is pretty pointless. And it would be great if it could be optimized in a build to actually function in PVP:
Oblivion's Foe
If you can make an effective build that utilizes Soul Trap in PVP, my hat is off to you.
(There is the obvious Sithis' Touch. But that set is specifically niche for NPC killing with zero expectation of working in PVP. So I would say it doesn't count)
I remember seeing a niche build a few years back that somehow managed to utilize the synergy behind Consuming Trap and Vengeance Leach. Mix in Oblivion Foe with that and maybe something is there? Still very niche but intriguing.-
Tri-faction tryhard but mainly EP in Gray Host lately (PC/NA)
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Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is a tricky question. There are very few worthless sets for PVP. Just a ton of sets that require very specific setups to work properly. And often those setups are going to require you to be in a team to be effective.
However, I can think of one set that is pretty pointless. And it would be great if it could be optimized in a build to actually function in PVP:
Oblivion's Foe
If you can make an effective build that utilizes Soul Trap in PVP, my hat is off to you.
(There is the obvious Sithis' Touch. But that set is specifically niche for NPC killing with zero expectation of working in PVP. So I would say it doesn't count)
I remember seeing a niche build a few years back that somehow managed to utilize the synergy behind Consuming Trap and Vengeance Leach. Mix in Oblivion Foe with that and maybe something is there? Still very niche but intriguing.
Oblivion Foe is not a totally worthless set. In fact the 100% extra dmg on soultrap is nice to put an unreflectable/undodgeable AoE on an enemy.
The problems with OF are its 2-4 bonuses. If it was a magicka set, with decent magicka/Magicka regen, spell dmg and spell crit bonuses, it could be an interesting option for magicka based builds.
Worthless sets are things like Ashen Grip, Death's wind, Trial by Fire or Shali...Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
kylewwefan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If you wanted to do an Arena Weapons build....would you go 2 x 5 piece or 5 piece, 3 piece Monster, how about oddball 3 piece of 5 piece sets that offer penetration as a third? Or Mix matched monster sets?
How far removed from meta numbers would you be?0 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭no one can answer the question of "what are worthless sets in eso"
because one mans trash is another mans treasure.
all the answers you will get on this thread are only going to be disagreed with by someone whom loves that set.
if you want the challenge of finding a "bad set" then use what "you" consider a bad set" and there u go, a bad set "in your eyes".1 -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ashen grip. Due to the animation for the 5 pc, I think you actually lose dps by using it compared to having a non set item in its place. 4pc Ashen grip + 1 pc (non set) may just beat 5 pc Ashen Grip.Edited by redspecter23 on March 13, 2019 7:30PM1 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Any set with + %healing and health recovery (excluding troll king).Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is a tricky question. There are very few worthless sets for PVP. Just a ton of sets that require very specific setups to work properly. And often those setups are going to require you to be in a team to be effective.
However, I can think of one set that is pretty pointless. And it would be great if it could be optimized in a build to actually function in PVP:
Oblivion's Foe
If you can make an effective build that utilizes Soul Trap in PVP, my hat is off to you.
(There is the obvious Sithis' Touch. But that set is specifically niche for NPC killing with zero expectation of working in PVP. So I would say it doesn't count)
I remember seeing a niche build a few years back that somehow managed to utilize the synergy behind Consuming Trap and Vengeance Leach. Mix in Oblivion Foe with that and maybe something is there? Still very niche but intriguing.
Oblivion Foe is not a totally worthless set. In fact the 100% extra dmg on soultrap is nice to put an unreflectable/undodgeable AoE on an enemy.
The problems with OF are its 2-4 bonuses. If it was a magicka set, with decent magicka/Magicka regen, spell dmg and spell crit bonuses, it could be an interesting option for magicka based builds.
Worthless sets are things like Ashen Grip, Death's wind, Trial by Fire or Shali...
I checked the Soul Trap tooltip on my current build and it is 9k. Switching Foe in would bump it to around 15k since it would lower my mag pool. But, what makes the set useless is that it only buffs 1 single skill. Everything else on your bar is missing out on a 5 piece bonus. It's interesting. And a 15k tooltip spammable is strong. But it would be your only effective offensive skill.0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is a tricky question. There are very few worthless sets for PVP. Just a ton of sets that require very specific setups to work properly. And often those setups are going to require you to be in a team to be effective.
However, I can think of one set that is pretty pointless. And it would be great if it could be optimized in a build to actually function in PVP:
Oblivion's Foe
If you can make an effective build that utilizes Soul Trap in PVP, my hat is off to you.
(There is the obvious Sithis' Touch. But that set is specifically niche for NPC killing with zero expectation of working in PVP. So I would say it doesn't count)
I remember seeing a niche build a few years back that somehow managed to utilize the synergy behind Consuming Trap and Vengeance Leach. Mix in Oblivion Foe with that and maybe something is there? Still very niche but intriguing.
Oblivion Foe is not a totally worthless set. In fact the 100% extra dmg on soultrap is nice to put an unreflectable/undodgeable AoE on an enemy.
The problems with OF are its 2-4 bonuses. If it was a magicka set, with decent magicka/Magicka regen, spell dmg and spell crit bonuses, it could be an interesting option for magicka based builds.
Worthless sets are things like Ashen Grip, Death's wind, Trial by Fire or Shali...
I checked the Soul Trap tooltip on my current build and it is 9k. Switching Foe in would bump it to around 15k since it would lower my mag pool. But, what makes the set useless is that it only buffs 1 single skill. Everything else on your bar is missing out on a 5 piece bonus. It's interesting. And a 15k tooltip spammable is strong. But it would be your only effective offensive skill.
True, but if you pair Foe with WM the amout of dmg it does is too good to be ignored.Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is a tricky question. There are very few worthless sets for PVP. Just a ton of sets that require very specific setups to work properly. And often those setups are going to require you to be in a team to be effective.
However, I can think of one set that is pretty pointless. And it would be great if it could be optimized in a build to actually function in PVP:
Oblivion's Foe
If you can make an effective build that utilizes Soul Trap in PVP, my hat is off to you.
(There is the obvious Sithis' Touch. But that set is specifically niche for NPC killing with zero expectation of working in PVP. So I would say it doesn't count)
I remember seeing a niche build a few years back that somehow managed to utilize the synergy behind Consuming Trap and Vengeance Leach. Mix in Oblivion Foe with that and maybe something is there? Still very niche but intriguing.
Oblivion Foe is not a totally worthless set. In fact the 100% extra dmg on soultrap is nice to put an unreflectable/undodgeable AoE on an enemy.
The problems with OF are its 2-4 bonuses. If it was a magicka set, with decent magicka/Magicka regen, spell dmg and spell crit bonuses, it could be an interesting option for magicka based builds.
Worthless sets are things like Ashen Grip, Death's wind, Trial by Fire or Shali...
I checked the Soul Trap tooltip on my current build and it is 9k. Switching Foe in would bump it to around 15k since it would lower my mag pool. But, what makes the set useless is that it only buffs 1 single skill. Everything else on your bar is missing out on a 5 piece bonus. It's interesting. And a 15k tooltip spammable is strong. But it would be your only effective offensive skill.
True, but if you pair Foe with WM the amout of dmg it does is too good to be ignored.
That is a fair point. You could probably push it over 20K damage, so 10K in PVP. And one of the morphs hits 3 targets.0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is a tricky question. There are very few worthless sets for PVP. Just a ton of sets that require very specific setups to work properly. And often those setups are going to require you to be in a team to be effective.
However, I can think of one set that is pretty pointless. And it would be great if it could be optimized in a build to actually function in PVP:
Oblivion's Foe
If you can make an effective build that utilizes Soul Trap in PVP, my hat is off to you.
(There is the obvious Sithis' Touch. But that set is specifically niche for NPC killing with zero expectation of working in PVP. So I would say it doesn't count)
I remember seeing a niche build a few years back that somehow managed to utilize the synergy behind Consuming Trap and Vengeance Leach. Mix in Oblivion Foe with that and maybe something is there? Still very niche but intriguing.
Oblivion Foe is not a totally worthless set. In fact the 100% extra dmg on soultrap is nice to put an unreflectable/undodgeable AoE on an enemy.
The problems with OF are its 2-4 bonuses. If it was a magicka set, with decent magicka/Magicka regen, spell dmg and spell crit bonuses, it could be an interesting option for magicka based builds.
Worthless sets are things like Ashen Grip, Death's wind, Trial by Fire or Shali...
I checked the Soul Trap tooltip on my current build and it is 9k. Switching Foe in would bump it to around 15k since it would lower my mag pool. But, what makes the set useless is that it only buffs 1 single skill. Everything else on your bar is missing out on a 5 piece bonus. It's interesting. And a 15k tooltip spammable is strong. But it would be your only effective offensive skill.
True, but if you pair Foe with WM the amout of dmg it does is too good to be ignored.
That is a fair point. You could probably push it over 20K damage, so 10K in PVP. And one of the morphs hits 3 targets.
Isn't that considered AoE? Because I have a lit WM staff somewehere.
Maybe I'll test it today on my mageblade, she was quite bored last time I picked my mDKEdited by Xvorg on March 14, 2019 3:50PMSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Easy, Ice furnace.
that's a tricky one. Some months ago I would have agreed BUT with the change to max resources on some races you can do something with pelinal's and a magden.
The weapon dmg skill paired with max magicka and spell crit makes the trick. 5 pelinal's LA and weapon dmg jewelry glyphs can make the trickSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
fred4✭✭✭✭✭
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I guess you weren't aware that Soul Trap prevent(ed) nightblades from cloaking properly. I suspect that was fixed at the same time as Sloads, but you never know.If you can make an effective build that utilizes Soul Trap in PVP, my hat is off to you.
You could try and make that work in IC. The problem is the animation is quite long, but so is the Major Berserk bonus that follows.(There is the obvious Sithis' Touch. But that set is specifically niche for NPC killing with zero expectation of working in PVP. So I would say it doesn't count)0 -
Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sithis' Touch - You can't use Blade of Woe on players & cyro NPCs have true vision so this set will never proc in PvP.
Flanking Strategiest - unreliable, hard to prc.
Salvation - Probably worst set for PvP WW (paradoxically).
Vampire Lord - Probably worst set for PvP vamp (99% of vamps in pvp seem to only be vampire for passive stats regen and mist form).
Oblivion's Edge - too weak heal, there are much better options for a proc heal.
Pelinal's Aptitude - this set used to be good for WW, but since they changed Hircyne's Bounty to scale with max health, as far as I can tell WW no longer benefits from Spell Dmg.
Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on March 15, 2019 12:16PM1 -
ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The main problem with Oblivion's Foe is that Soul Trap is a ludicrously weak skill without it, so the opportunity cost to running Soul Trap over another skill in the first place makes using the set not worthwhile. The x2 multiplier could otherwise offset the weak health regen bonus and the limitation to a single skill.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
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