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Ehm Zos, what did you do? Can't see any new items in inventory.
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I logged on my Nightblade now and looted some containers in the Summerset tutorial just to get some lockpicks, but i can't see them, nothing in the inventory shows up. :S
Pics for reference,
Edited by Maotti on March 11, 2019 11:06AM Pics for reference,
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eklhaftb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Any addons? If so, it might help to turn them off. There have been some changes apparently, and many addons related to looting and crafting stopped to work.
EDIT: Just got a lua error from buying a horse upgrade. It's a mess.
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Maotti✭✭✭✭✭
✭eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »Any addons? If so, it might help to turn them off. There have been some changes apparently, and many addons related to looting and crafting stopped to work.
The problem is i have many addons, and i also read that someone else had many UI errors now after patch, ah well.
Can be closed admins.PC EU2 -
AzraelKrieg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭CraftStore: Busted
Dolgubon's: Busted
Inventory: Busted
Well done ZOS. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom You guys may need to bring the servers down to hotfix this.Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 503 -
ABuster✭✭✭AzraelKrieg wrote: »CraftStore: Busted
Dolgubon's: Busted
Inventory: Busted
Well done ZOS. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom You guys may need to bring the servers down to hotfix this.
why?? its not ZOS' Job to take care for the AddOns when changing things, it's the job from the AddOn creators, to adapt the AddOns to the current changesEdited by ABuster on March 11, 2019 11:17AM18 -
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✭✭✭✭AzraelKrieg wrote: »CraftStore: Busted
Dolgubon's: Busted
Inventory: Busted
Well done ZOS. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom You guys may need to bring the servers down to hotfix this.
why?? its not ZOS' Job to take care for the AddOns when changing things, it's the job from the AddOn creators, to adapt the AddOns to the current changes
Addons should not break from something this simple. I could understand them not functioning completely when a large update is pushed but this is an incremental update.Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 509 -
ABuster✭✭✭I am not a programmer nor writing scripts, but like everyone else, I know well enough, that small changes in database or any code, can break down alot.Edited by ABuster on March 11, 2019 11:24AM6
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NupidStoob✭✭✭✭✭AzraelKrieg wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »CraftStore: Busted
Dolgubon's: Busted
Inventory: Busted
Well done ZOS. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom You guys may need to bring the servers down to hotfix this.
why?? its not ZOS' Job to take care for the AddOns when changing things, it's the job from the AddOn creators, to adapt the AddOns to the current changes
Addons should not break from something this simple. I could understand them not functioning completely when a large update is pushed but this is an incremental update.
So they just should not fix things because they might affect addons?8 -
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✭✭✭✭NupidStoob wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »CraftStore: Busted
Dolgubon's: Busted
Inventory: Busted
Well done ZOS. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom You guys may need to bring the servers down to hotfix this.
why?? its not ZOS' Job to take care for the AddOns when changing things, it's the job from the AddOn creators, to adapt the AddOns to the current changes
Addons should not break from something this simple. I could understand them not functioning completely when a large update is pushed but this is an incremental update.
So they just should not fix things because they might affect addons?
They could have fixed it without affecting addons. But something in the code seems to have gone awry. Additionally, game crashed twice for me after this patch; once on reloading the UI and once on trying to quit the gameGold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 502 -
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✭✭✭Looks like they broken most of the game UI & all the Add-ons
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When is ZOS going to learn test, test & test again, then and only then think about releasing pre-alpha fgrade patches into the wild...“Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
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✭AzraelKrieg wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »CraftStore: Busted
Dolgubon's: Busted
Inventory: Busted
Well done ZOS. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom You guys may need to bring the servers down to hotfix this.
why?? its not ZOS' Job to take care for the AddOns when changing things, it's the job from the AddOn creators, to adapt the AddOns to the current changes
Addons should not break from something this simple. I could understand them not functioning completely when a large update is pushed but this is an incremental update.
Nope. There was a major database change, as advised IN RED ON THE LOGIN SCREEN. All addon creators had to re-write and I THINK get re-approved for new update release. AGS is in technical BETA, apparently pending approval.
Sorry, there were API and library changes too. My understanding and buzzword bingo-ness is exhausted now.
... patience there, digger.Edited by Androconium on March 11, 2019 11:30AM7 -
Gythral✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I am not a programmer nor writing scripts, but like everyone else, I know well enough, that small changes in database or any code, can break down alot.
which is why everyone avoids doing it...“Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
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thedovahmon✭✭✭✭Androconium wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »CraftStore: Busted
Dolgubon's: Busted
Inventory: Busted
Well done ZOS. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom You guys may need to bring the servers down to hotfix this.
why?? its not ZOS' Job to take care for the AddOns when changing things, it's the job from the AddOn creators, to adapt the AddOns to the current changes
Addons should not break from something this simple. I could understand them not functioning completely when a large update is pushed but this is an incremental update.
Nope. There was a major database change, as advised IN RED ON THE LOGIN SCREEN. All addon creators had to re-write and I THINK get re-approved for new update release. AGS is in technical BETA, apparently pending approval.
Sorry, there were API and library changes too. My understanding and buzzword bingo-ness is exhausted now.
Wasn't that for the Wrathstone update though?"Voted most likely to reply with a reaction image. According to the Mournhold High School Yearbook."3 -
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✭✭✭Androconium wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »CraftStore: Busted
Dolgubon's: Busted
Inventory: Busted
Well done ZOS. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom You guys may need to bring the servers down to hotfix this.
why?? its not ZOS' Job to take care for the AddOns when changing things, it's the job from the AddOn creators, to adapt the AddOns to the current changes
Addons should not break from something this simple. I could understand them not functioning completely when a large update is pushed but this is an incremental update.
Nope. There was a major database change, as advised IN RED ON THE LOGIN SCREEN. All addon creators had to re-write and I THINK get re-approved for new update release. AGS is in technical BETA, apparently pending approval.
Sorry, there were API and library changes too. My understanding and buzzword bingo-ness is exhausted now.
... patience there, digger.
That was done and dusted two weeks ago, this is new, if it aint broke break it ZOS at work... (and unannounced)
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Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
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thedovahmon✭✭✭✭You really shouldn't blame Zenimax if Addons get broken. Maintenance and adjusting can change a number of things and I doubt ZOS could foresee it when a few add-ons get busted because of it. Best you should do is keep calm and wait for the Addon creators to update their code."Voted most likely to reply with a reaction image. According to the Mournhold High School Yearbook."7
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efster✭✭✭✭✭All the addons that are broken with this patch were working just fine before the maintenance.
Sure, ZoS has no responsibility to patch around addons (in fact literally every support request you send about an in-game bug will be first boilerplated with "have you tried turning off addons?") but they could at least mention the relevant change in the patch notes. Stealth changes are so annoying.AD is the best looking faction. I don't make the rules, I just enforce them.7 -
eklhaftb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Yep, this is nobody's fault. Sure, ZOS could've released the changes on PTS so that addon authors could prepare for them in advance, but then again, such tiny changes usually don't get put on test servers.4
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✭✭✭thedovahmon wrote: »You really shouldn't blame Zenimax if Addons get broken. Maintenance and adjusting can change a number of things and I doubt ZOS could foresee it when a few add-ons get busted because of it. Best you should do is keep calm and wait for the Addon creators to update their code.
Theres TOS and ther's good cusomter practice
yes they can do what they like
but it is better to give warning of changes that could break a lot things for a lot of customers
guess which ZOS almost always chooses...“Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
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BergisMacBride✭✭✭✭✭ZOS has generally been up front and cooperated with the addon community with each release, giving them the changes for each major update so the addon makers could adjust prior to the patch. They just messed up and dropped the ball with this incremental patch.
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White Knighting for ZOS is not called for here because ultimately the buck stops with them. If they allow add ons, then they should work with the modders before releasing a patch. In fact, one could make the argument that of their UI was good they wouldn't need add ons. When you look at MMOs like FF14 and Black Desert, their UIs are terrific and they don't need add ons. While ESO is a very good MMO and excels at many things, the UI is garbage.6
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gw2only1b14_ESO✭✭✭Same issue I see just 2 items in bag and look at bottom says 191/200 so the rest doing a disappearing act0
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✭Good thing this months daily rewards are trash... looks like it's time to give the game a wide berth if they're breaking essential addons with god damn incremental patches.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Giobonello wrote: »White Knighting for ZOS is not called for here because ultimately the buck stops with them. If they allow add ons, then they should work with the modders before releasing a patch.
As an addon writer, I'm going to white knight this one because it does not feel like a deliberate situation. It feels like something changed that was unintended. Unfortunately, if the addon writers cannot work around it, there is no quick fix.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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gw2only1b14_ESO✭✭✭gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »Same issue I see just 2 items in bag and look at bottom says 191/200 so the rest doing a disappearing act
I just relogged and turned off all add ons…..Inventory appears1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭thedovahmon wrote: »You really shouldn't blame Zenimax if Addons get broken. Maintenance and adjusting can change a number of things and I doubt ZOS could foresee it when a few add-ons get busted because of it. Best you should do is keep calm and wait for the Addon creators to update their code.
Theres TOS and ther's good cusomter practice
yes they can do what they like
but it is better to give warning of changes that could break a lot things for a lot of customers
guess which ZOS almost always chooses...
Actually they almost always choose the first option of posting Lua changes in advance. I think this was unintended.
Also, just because they post them makes no guarantee the add-ons will be updated. I'd say 50% of my add-ons are still out of date from the Wrathstone patch.4 -
lordrichter wrote: »Giobonello wrote: »White Knighting for ZOS is not called for here because ultimately the buck stops with them. If they allow add ons, then they should work with the modders before releasing a patch.
As an addon writer, I'm going to white knight this one because it does not feel like a deliberate situation. It feels like something changed that was unintended. Unfortunately, if the addon writers cannot work around it, there is no quick fix.
I hear you on the unintentional bit, but then this is poor quality control; which seems to be the norm for the entire video game industry nowadays.
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✭✭✭Giobonello wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »Giobonello wrote: »White Knighting for ZOS is not called for here because ultimately the buck stops with them. If they allow add ons, then they should work with the modders before releasing a patch.
As an addon writer, I'm going to white knight this one because it does not feel like a deliberate situation. It feels like something changed that was unintended. Unfortunately, if the addon writers cannot work around it, there is no quick fix.
I hear you on the unintentional bit, but then this is poor quality control; which seems to be the norm for the entire video game industry nowadays.
Hey M$ do this too, so it's not limited to games (how many Win10 patches have been patched/pulled in the last 18 months)Edited by Gythral on March 11, 2019 1:22PM“Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
Dante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy1
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