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New computer for ESO.

  • Att1Tude
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    You might want to do this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pYJeanHHQ4

    Do everything exactly as said in video. Atleast I have tons more stability with my OC i5-9600k and 1060 6gb and i PvP a lot.
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  • JinMori
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    LMar wrote: »
    JinMori wrote: »
    This is the worst time to build a computer considering how in a few months new cpus and gpus will be released.

    What i would do is wait, and in the meantime inform myself on cpu, ram, gpu, motherboard, and everything in between, and i would also not buy a premade, building your computer is really not that hard, also, DO NOT BUY A CHEAP POWER SUPPLY, this is possibly the worst mistake you could do, because if the psu is bad, you might just fry your whole computer if something goes bad, which it probably will overtime, just buy a good quality psu, so that will most probably not happen.

    And as some stated above, this game is very cpu intensive, so you will notice a difference if you have a better cpu.

    @JinMori when are the new cpus and gpus being released?

    About june.
  • Gythral
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    JinMori wrote: »
    LMar wrote: »
    JinMori wrote: »
    This is the worst time to build a computer considering how in a few months new cpus and gpus will be released.

    What i would do is wait, and in the meantime inform myself on cpu, ram, gpu, motherboard, and everything in between, and i would also not buy a premade, building your computer is really not that hard, also, DO NOT BUY A CHEAP POWER SUPPLY, this is possibly the worst mistake you could do, because if the psu is bad, you might just fry your whole computer if something goes bad, which it probably will overtime, just buy a good quality psu, so that will most probably not happen.

    And as some stated above, this game is very cpu intensive, so you will notice a difference if you have a better cpu.

    @JinMori when are the new cpus and gpus being released?

    About june.

    so expect to see them ion the wild for the xmas market
    (Intel have been failing on 10nm fab for years now - so expect it to be an issue)

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  • MikaHR
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    Its not Intel, new AMD CPUs will be out soon, and considering current Ryzen lineup is much preferable to power hungry and hot Intel CPUs....9900k needs truly industrial grade cooling not to throttle...on stock. OC...liquid nitogen only.
    Edited by MikaHR on March 6, 2019 9:22AM
  • Trancestor
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    theyancey wrote: »
    I upgraded my ancient i7 to a modern i5 and it runs extremely better. Saved money too. It is riding on a GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS Gaming 7 MB. I moved my existing 64GB of RAM over. EVGA 1070TI. While running ESO flawlessly I also have 3 browsers each with a couple of hundred tabs open going in the background.

    300+ tabs open? Wtf is wrong with you?
  • Trancestor
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    MikaHR wrote: »
    Its not Intel, new AMD CPUs will be out soon, and considering current Ryzen lineup is much preferable to power hungry and hot Intel CPUs....9900k needs truly industrial grade cooling not to throttle...on stock. OC...liquid nitogen only.

    9900k 5ghz all cores here, max temps in games are 65c, usually sits around 50c, with a Corsair H115i, temps are only high in unrealistic stress tests, for gaming the 9900k temps are completely fine.
  • MikaHR
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    Uses more power than 16 core AMD Threadripper 2950x....and runs much hotter, naturally (even 9700k). And that is not even a stress test but application average people use on daily basis.

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    Edited by MikaHR on March 6, 2019 9:55AM
  • Saturnana
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    coj901 wrote: »
    The only thing that worries me is the 1060 is 3gb not 6gb and the computer comes with only 8gb of ram not 16. i can upgrade the ram easy enough. from my understanding the i7-8700 is a good processor. I know eso is all about CPU so im wondering how this will go. I also play Battlefield,battlefront 2,and other FPSs.

    What i do think will be nice is going from playing on a 17 inch 60hz monitor to a 27 inch 144hz monitor with 1ms response time.

    Like you said, RAM is not much of an issue as it's one of the easiest things to upgrade yourself (not necessarily the cheapest, but certainly one of the easiest). A 1060 with 3GB should probably be fine as well for now, especially if you're not playing everything on Ultra settings - though I'm expecting the 3GB to be somewhat of a bottleneck fairly soon (3GB just about cuts it for most of 2018 triple-A titles' recommended settings. If you don't want to upgrade any time soon after this purchase, you may want to look at cards with 6GB or more).

    A 3GB 1060 will not be enough for a 27 inch screen @ 144hz. Not nearly.
    I play on an overclocked 8GB rx480 and a 29 inch ultrawide (1080p) @ 75hz, and it.. manages.
    Better than I anticipated when I got the monitor, to be frank. But certainly doesn't work great.
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  • MikaHR
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    It is much better to stick to 60-75 Hz with Freesync than chasing > 100 FPS as a lot of games wont go above 100-120 FPS no matter what hardware you have in your PC (some games even start glitching above 100 FPS as most games are made firstly for consoles and 30-60 FPS, and porting to PC has been pretty much a disastruous low quality effort).

    Try ESO Cyrodiil and tell us all about your "144 Hz" experience (as an example....or any area with a bit of people in it)

    But yeah, that PC OP picked is just terrible deal.
    Edited by MikaHR on March 6, 2019 10:18AM
  • JinMori
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    There's no point in using a "low" clock cpu, high core count for gaming anyway., since most games benefit more from single core performance, because optimizing for multithread is not so easy, "excuse, but from what i read it genuinely is not that easy", in any case, gaming companies will be forced to optimize for more core usage in the future.

    Anyway, this is not the time to buy new computer parts or anything else, and with the next generation it seems that intel will finally break through 10 nm, although, i am far more interested in ryzen at the moment, the leaks in the past few months are just mindblowing.
  • JinMori
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    MikaHR wrote: »
    It is much better to stick to 60-75 Hz with Freesync than chasing > 100 FPS as a lot of games wont go above 100-120 FPS no matter what hardware you have in your PC (some games even start glitching above 100 FPS as most games are made firstly for consoles and 30-60 FPS, and porting to PC has been pretty much a disastruous low quality effort).

    Try ESO Cyrodiil and tell us all about your "144 Hz" experience (as an example....or any area with a bit of people in it)

    But yeah, that PC OP picked is just terrible deal.

    That is a load of bs, lots of game go above 100 fps with powerful enough hardware, just not eso, and mmos in general, because they are cpu bound a lot of times, and eso is also poorly optimized, although from what i read in the last patch there were some significant improvements.

    And so far, the only game that iv'e seen having problems with high fps is skyrim.
    Edited by JinMori on March 6, 2019 12:21PM
  • JinMori
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    Saturnana wrote: »
    coj901 wrote: »
    The only thing that worries me is the 1060 is 3gb not 6gb and the computer comes with only 8gb of ram not 16. i can upgrade the ram easy enough. from my understanding the i7-8700 is a good processor. I know eso is all about CPU so im wondering how this will go. I also play Battlefield,battlefront 2,and other FPSs.

    What i do think will be nice is going from playing on a 17 inch 60hz monitor to a 27 inch 144hz monitor with 1ms response time.

    Like you said, RAM is not much of an issue as it's one of the easiest things to upgrade yourself (not necessarily the cheapest, but certainly one of the easiest). A 1060 with 3GB should probably be fine as well for now, especially if you're not playing everything on Ultra settings - though I'm expecting the 3GB to be somewhat of a bottleneck fairly soon (3GB just about cuts it for most of 2018 triple-A titles' recommended settings. If you don't want to upgrade any time soon after this purchase, you may want to look at cards with 6GB or more).

    A 3GB 1060 will not be enough for a 27 inch screen @ 144hz. Not nearly.
    I play on an overclocked 8GB rx480 and a 29 inch ultrawide (1080p) @ 75hz, and it.. manages.
    Better than I anticipated when I got the monitor, to be frank. But certainly doesn't work great.

    It's not about if it could, 3 gb, WILL bottleneck, it already does now in many games.

    And memory is the one thing that if you have a lot, you will not notice performance improvements, but if you don't have enough, you sure as hell will.
    Edited by JinMori on March 6, 2019 12:16PM
  • JinMori
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    MikaHR wrote: »
    Uses more power than 16 core AMD Threadripper 2950x....and runs much hotter, naturally (even 9700k). And that is not even a stress test but application average people use on daily basis.

    Power-1.png
    Temps.png

    Noctua really is an amazing air cooler, although heavily criticized for it's color choice.

    The fact that it can keep up with liquid coolers of about the same price is telling, and you have none of the drawbacks of liquid cooling (leakage).
    Edited by JinMori on March 6, 2019 12:19PM
  • coj901
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    I ended up getting an Alienware with the same processer and a GTX 1080. got a Dell gsync monitor. Everything on high at 1440p,100fps most of the time 40-50 in the zerg.
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