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kind_hero
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I don't like how the tickets are earned in this event.

Why can't I earn two tickets/day doing TG or DB daily quests? Why I must do both, and why the event tries to force me do a certain type of daily quest?

I started to lose interest in this more and more grindy elusive indrik mount because of the way devs are trying to make you play the content they want, instead of leting you play how you like.

Sure, you will say that none forces me to do these events or quests, which is true; I decided to skip it.

Another issue is that these quests are locked behind some story quests and you need a certain guild level to do them. Who thought this is a good idea? So if I do not have the prerequisites I need to rush the quests just to get to the specific daily the devs want me to do. Same could be said about the Morrowind event. This is a big change compared to .. let's say Clockwork event, which was maybe to easy or linear to get, but still... because it is an event, everyone should be able to do it fairly quickly.

Fortunately there are plenty of events, and I am not in a hurry to get that mount, but I am dissapointed on how this event works compared to the previous ones.
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  • ChunkyCat
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    You don’t need tickets. Move on bro.
  • FluffyKitten
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    I agree, can't be bothered doing it, will get the tickets on the next event.
  • wishlist14
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    I feel the real reason behind these events are for marketing purposes. I never wanted to believe that before.
    I believe this now since you can now BUY event tickets from the crown store. I've worked hard to get my event tickets and so far have done all event daily quests so selling the tickets in the store is insulting to me. I had to grind the daily quests to earn my tickets wich I was very proud off since I stopped doing what I was working on at the time to participate in the events.

    I think zos should have sold different type event tickets that went towards rare pets yea but not the indrik mounts. Then it wouldnt be so insulting....its nice to be proud of earning something or achieving something in eso that cant be bought.

    If you cant do db and tg event dailies we have the jester life festival...maybe you can earn even tickets for that. Good luck.😊

    Edited by wishlist14 on March 9, 2019 9:10PM
  • InvictusApollo
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    wishlist14 wrote: »
    I feel the real reason behind these events are for marketing purposes. I never wanted to believe that before.
    I believe this now since you can now BUY event tickets from the crown store. I've worked hard to get my event tickets and so far have done all event daily quests so selling the tickets in the store is insulting to me. I had to grind the daily quests to earn my tickets wich I was very proud off since I stopped doing what I was working on at the time to participate in the events.

    I think zos should have sold different type event tickets that went towards rare pets yea but not the indrik mounts. Then it wouldnt be so insulting....its nice to be proud of earning something or achieving something in eso that cant be bought.

    If you cant do db and tg event dailies we have the jester life festival...maybe you can earn even tickets for that. Good luck.😊

    Look at it differently: ZOS has put a price on your grind. A price in real money. Your grind saved you that exact amount of money. Your grind suddenly gained real value in real world.
    I hope I helped :)
  • Shadow-Fighter
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    wishlist14 wrote: »
    I feel the real reason behind these events are for marketing purposes. I never wanted to believe that before.
    I believe this now since you can now BUY event tickets from the crown store. I've worked hard to get my event tickets and so far have done all event daily quests so selling the tickets in the store is insulting to me. I had to grind the daily quests to earn my tickets wich I was very proud off since I stopped doing what I was working on at the time to participate in the events.

    I think zos should have sold different type event tickets that went towards rare pets yea but not the indrik mounts. Then it wouldnt be so insulting....its nice to be proud of earning something or achieving something in eso that cant be bought.

    If you cant do db and tg event dailies we have the jester life festival...maybe you can earn even tickets for that. Good luck.😊

    Look at it differently: ZOS has put a price on your grind. A price in real money. Your grind saved you that exact amount of money. Your grind suddenly gained real value in real world.
    I hope I helped :)

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  • xaraan
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    You could say this about anything. Maybe someone hates crafting - why will certain rewards be locked behind crafting. Maybe they hate pvp - why are certain event rewards locked behind pvp. Maybe they hate pve - why are certain rewards locked behind dungeons. etc. etc.

    Fact is that the rewards are behind various content and that's the purpose - to push people to do that content. Fortunately they offer enough tickets in various events to skip one if you really, really hate something or don't want to mess with a given event.

    So I'm not seeing the problem.
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  • Shawn_PT
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    What if ZoS looks at the number of people who have actually done these quests/advanced through the guild ranks and thinks 'not enough people have played this content, must find a way to force players to play through it. Who knows, maybe they'll even enjoy it after they try.'

    Perhaps next year, the CWC event's tickets will be gated behind a daily completion of vAS HM :tongue:
  • DarcyMardin
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    I’ve done enough heists and sacraments on my main to know I never want to do them again. No problem—I have a sufficient number of tickets for one morph of that increasingly ugly-looking mount.

    But those who enjoy them, have fun!
    Edited by DarcyMardin on March 9, 2019 11:54PM
  • Sylvermynx
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    I agree, can't be bothered doing it, will get the tickets on the next event.

    Yup. I don't do TG or DB in any ES game, including this one.

    I love the base indrik the way it is, not sure I want to morph it - it's perfect as is for my wild child Bosmer warden - so I may do the Jester festival and the anniversary event and use the tickets for the pets instead of morphing it.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    After you get access to those quests it is 5-10 minutes daily to complete them and grab tickets.
    And yes tickets are marketing way to increase people interest in DB/TG. Is it bad? Maybe, but such is life, marketing is everywhere.
  • ccfeeling
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    I finally give up the barries progress, Zos, there are some content we never interested, TG and DB.

    We login everyday, we deserve to have those barries, plz dont drive what we to do in coming 3 years, those contents are freaking bored, dont u believe?

    Please check your big data.
  • Jhalin
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    We login everyday, we deserve to have those barries,

    No, you don’t. Earn your tickets in the Jester Festival in April if you refuse to do DB or TG content. It’s bad enough they’re going to sell tickets in the crown store, they barely have any demand. If that’s too much for you then you have no need for the mount at all
  • Sylvermynx
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    Well, marketing drew a blank with me. There's content I will do; content I LOVE to do; and content I will never ever do, and nothing's going to change my mind there.
  • munster1404
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    There are quite a number of events I don’t participate in. Imperial City, Midyear Mayhem, Undaunted and Thieves Guild/Dark Brotherhood. Basically anything to do with PvP, stealth and group activities. But I’m glad there are other events that cater to solo players except the duration is too short.
  • Lyserus
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    I mean, tickets aside, these ARE thief's guild and dark brotherhood anniversary events, right?

    What do you expect from anniversary event aside from rewarding you for participate in the content?
  • Eyllora
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    I agree with @Lyserus ! This is BB/TG anniversary ! Of course tickets come from these DLC and nobody forces anyone to take part in the event if you don't want to.
    Tickets are locked behind pvp events, dungeon events, seasonnal events, DLC events, chapter events etc. So many different events !!!
    We have enough of them to get everything we want even if we skip some of them. And getting a ticket requires like 5mn usually.
    I just have the feeling that some players just want all sort of rewards without even playing the game, as some complain about rewards locked behind more difficult achievement and content.


  • f047ys3v3n
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    The whole event ticket thing is getting a bit grindy isn't it. I'm a little surprised haven't thought to reward ticket fragments for every daily in the zone and make you collect all of them to get just one ticket. Seems to be the direction. One daily ought to be enough, especially when the "event" isn't so much an event as a reminder that the 3 year old content that few really liked that much anyway still exists.

    As for the locked behind DLC and quest. All I'm saying is there are going to be a lot of people who end up with 3/4 berries at the end of this cycle and are pissed. Maybe they spend the $ to buy the berry in the crown store or maybe they just feel pissed and extorted. I don't think that would be the strategy I would be using to drive crown purchases. More flies with honey and all that. Having awesome items like this months stick mount, infernal spider, and cadwell costume seems the better way to go. What an awesome crown store month by the way. Totally makes up for last months dud. Hope the new crates are as cool.
    I am currently worried for the future of ESO. Population seems like it is in free fall and the cancellation of the North America in-person gathering feels very much like pulling the plug. Kudos on fixing the in-game economy though. Clearly whatever gold shenanigans were happening the last couple years are fixed.
  • Aimora
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    Totally agree on this - I have a 2nd account and although I have the DLC's on that account I hadn't progressed the story to the point allowing me to get the Heists/Sacraments so need to take the time to do them - I prefer the other way of just doing a quick quest/world boss to get the tickets :/
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  • kind_hero
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    What I wanted to say in the 1st place is that I do not really mind doing certain faction quests, but I would like to have at least the freedom to pick the type of daily quest I want, to get those tickets. 1 ticket for the easy ones, 2 tickets for the group quests, like world bosses. A year ago we had a similar DB/TG event when each daily quest rewarded double loot, and I did those a lot (Kvatch arena/Minotaur, Hew's Bane world bosses, etc), so the difference was that I could do whatever I wanted, thieving or just fetch quests like get back the lost ring, baubles, whatever. This year the devs try to force us doing heists and sacraments.

    I started playing Elder Scrolls with Arena (to many years ago :) ) and I have played almost all the sequels, but I was never a big fan of the dark/evil guilds, except in some versions I joined the thieves because the story was good or it was fun. I really like the concept of the Elder Scrolls hero, the prisoner that starts from nothing and can redeem himself by his/her actions.

    In ESO I am sort of forced to do these guilds, so I have this "evil" alt who joined DB and does their dirty work. Sometimes it is fun, the DB story line is interesting, but randomly killing NPCs get's boring quickly, reminding me of my archer sniper from Skyrim that one-shoted almost every mob.
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  • FierceSam
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    ccfeeling wrote: »

    We login everyday, we deserve to have those barries.

    No we don’t. They’re not daily rewards. They are not rewards for simply playing the game, they are rewards for doing the content that gives event tickets.

    And yes, they are totally about marketing and introducing people who might not do particular content to that content.

    In exactly the same way that motif drops in dungeons encourage players to do repeat dungeon runs, or daily BG rewards encourage people to play Battlegrounds.

    Do the content, get the reward. Have fun.
  • Neoealth
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    kind_hero wrote: »
    I don't like how the tickets are earned in this event.

    Why can't I earn two tickets/day doing TG or DB daily quests? Why I must do both, and why the event tries to force me do a certain type of daily quest?

    I started to lose interest in this more and more grindy elusive indrik mount because of the way devs are trying to make you play the content they want, instead of leting you play how you like.

    Sure, you will say that none forces me to do these events or quests, which is true; I decided to skip it.

    Another issue is that these quests are locked behind some story quests and you need a certain guild level to do them. Who thought this is a good idea? So if I do not have the prerequisites I need to rush the quests just to get to the specific daily the devs want me to do. Same could be said about the Morrowind event. This is a big change compared to .. let's say Clockwork event, which was maybe to easy or linear to get, but still... because it is an event, everyone should be able to do it fairly quickly.

    Fortunately there are plenty of events, and I am not in a hurry to get that mount, but I am dissapointed on how this event works compared to the previous ones.

    You said it yourself, "earn"

    You must earn the tickets.

    There is always the upcoming jester festival also which I believe will last for 5 whole weeks, that is plenty of time to get back any tickets you didn't get by not choosing to do DB quests and more.

    Remember this event is to celebrate both dlc's, it makes sense they would offer an event ticket each for both factions.
  • haelene
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    There are plenty of different events to earn these tickets, just don't do what you don't want to do. If you want every ticket (which is not necessary), then, well, you're going to have to work for it and so things you don't want to do.

    Do I like pvp? Not just no, but hell no. Am I going to ask that the pvp event give me tickets without participating in pvp? No, that's just silly. If I want those tickets I need to suck it up and do pvp - but the good news is I don't *need* those tickets.

    Not every event is for you, and that's okay!
  • generalmyrick
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    i enjoyed the extra nudge to finish the content i shelved over the years. :-)

    but i understand! :-)
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  • Dragneel1207
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    why dont we all agree that they are giving the free mount (not free in my opinion) and taking advantage like the mobile games we have.
  • Zathras
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    kind_hero wrote: »
    I don't like how the tickets are earned in this event.
    <snip>
    I decided to skip it.

    Ditto. I haven't run any of my chars through theses areas, as the quests are just tedious.

    Fortunately, the last Event allowed me to get the berry I needed, plus 10 tickets. I knew I wasn't going to want to do this Event at all, so I just insta-purchased when it went Live, then ignored it.

    Jester's Festival is just around the corner. Wait for that one if this one doesn't do it for you. There is ample time to get what you need, with extras.
    Edited by Zathras on March 10, 2019 2:55PM
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  • Danikat
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    All the event tickets have required you to complete a specific type of activity.
    • Witches Festival - killing bosses
    • Clockwork City - Boss dailies and Slag Town dailies (both of which required doing the preliminary quests to unlock them)
    • Undaunted Event - completing a random daily dungeon
    • New Life Festival - new life dailies
    • Midyear Mayhem - PvP dailies
    • Morrowind Event - Morrowind delve and world boss dailies (required completing preliminary quests)
    • Thieves Guild & Dark Brotherhood Event - guild dailies (requiring doing the preliminary quests to unlock them)

    I understand it feels different when it's a type of quest you don't like doing, but this isn't any different to how event tickets have been obtained previously.

    And just like other events if you can't or don't want to do it you can skip it and get enough tickets from future events instead.
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  • Silver_Strider
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    I have to ask, why exactly did you buy the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood DLCs if you aren't interested in the content those DLCs offer? Why do these events have to have arbitrary rules for people that want to avoid doing the content within the scope of that event? An event designed for content based around stealing and killing is going to entail those characteristics into its criteria, much like the Undaunted event required doing dungeons and Midyear required PvP. As for the pre-requisite requirement for these events, both the Undaunted and PvP require you to be level 10 to even attend so how is it really any different from being level 3 for those Skill lines; it would realistically require the same amount of time to reach that bar as it would hitting level 10 so why all this complaining?

    In the amount of time it took you to create this thread, you could've already reached level 3 in both skill lines and started earning your tickets.
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  • LiquidPony
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    Every event requires you to do the content related to that event to earn rewards.

    It should be pretty clear that ZOS is using the events as a carrot on a stick to get people to try content they may not otherwise try.

    This event really isn't that bad. On my PC account, I'd never even done the prerequisite quests for TG or DB. It took me maybe an hour to knock both of them out, and then maybe 10-15 minutes a day to do both dailies for the event tickets (I don't engage in any sneaking or Blade of Woe-ing, I just blow through the instances like they're delves and kill everything in my way).

    In the end it's not any more time-consuming or tedious than any of the other events.
    Edited by LiquidPony on March 10, 2019 9:46PM
  • kind_hero
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    I have to ask, why exactly did you buy the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood DLCs if you aren't interested in the content those DLCs offer? Why do these events have to have arbitrary rules for people that want to avoid doing the content within the scope of that event? An event designed for content based around stealing and killing is going to entail those characteristics into its criteria, much like the Undaunted event required doing dungeons and Midyear required PvP. As for the pre-requisite requirement for these events, both the Undaunted and PvP require you to be level 10 to even attend so how is it really any different from being level 3 for those Skill lines; it would realistically require the same amount of time to reach that bar as it would hitting level 10 so why all this complaining?

    In the amount of time it took you to create this thread, you could've already reached level 3 in both skill lines and started earning your tickets.

    To answer your 1st question, I pay a sub, so I can access all DLCs, and use the crafting bag which I use quite a lot.

    In regards to your last statement, I am level 10 in Thieves Guild, I did their story quest to the end, and with my "evil" alt I could do the sacraments, if I wanted to. The problem, as I see it, is not so much the gating of these quests, but limiting quite a lot the freedom of the player in choosing the repeatable quest for getting the tickets.

    The fact that I did the Thieves Guild quests does not necessarily mean that I enjoyed all their daily quests or everything related to them. But Hew's Bane is one of my favourite zones in all Tamriel, and Abah's Landing one of the cities I like most, even though I am not a big fan of the Thieves Guild.
    The heist or sacraments mini-games are not something that I really enjoy, because of the limited mechanics - even though my main thief is a nightblade who has a set that allows her to run while sneaking. So doing these is a chore for me. And I am a guy that enjoyed stealth a lot in Deus Ex or Dishonored (where you could climb walls, use secret passages or distractions, whatever, instead of avoiding NPCs with lamps).

    So TL;DR version is, I would have liked more options, that's all.
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  • ChuckyPayne
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    I remember an old story 12 years ago a pvp player in GW1 want to grind the obisidian armor and him it was a very big pain to go from Lion's Arch to Temple of Ages. It's a few minute fight, or more less run if u skip mobs. I think the same problem here!!!

    Is it so big problem to do 2 quest before u can reach the content? Is it so grindy to do a mini mission ~5 minutes/day?

    If it is so big pain then easy! Skip it! 2 more event in the horizont. You don't need collect every tikects you won't miss anything u can collect everything just a bit later. The ticket/events/rewards as I like.

    After 4 years maybe this year I will finish The Witches Festival achievents. Usually in autumns try other games :) If I dont want to play with ESO for a while I won't lose/miss anything. I will finish, collect, when I play again.
    Edited by ChuckyPayne on March 11, 2019 9:32AM
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