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is it okay to make black list about trade center guilds clickbaiter ??
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Matchimus✭✭✭✭✭I reckon I experienced someone within a guild store (not blaming guild) doing what op was talking about. I believe I got bit a couple of times...end result I now never visit that store & they have never gotten a coin out of me.0 -
Vandril✭✭✭✭Everything that frustrates me about the traders could be solved in one feature: global search.
I'm happy to travel to the other side of the world to buy something I want...I get annoyed running all over the place looking for it.
It would also make it much easier to figure out what the going rate for any given item is--instead of having to visit multiple traders and do multiple searches in multiple cities to see that 200 Rubedite ingots can cost anywhere from 3-10K.
(Please don't tell me to go to TTC. I have tried and every time I do, the place is virtually empty.)(Seriously. Who do I have to kill around here to figure out how much alchemical resin sells for??)
How up to date could a global search be? I don't know but I am going to guess it can't be updated after every deposit or sale without eating up server resources? I would like a search within each zone but not if it affects game play. I think that would be a decent compromise. You could see all the traders in The Rift for instance if you were in The Rift. Doing it that way would make finding what you need easier but still allow for flippers to play their game.
A global search would basically be a global auction house minus the ability to purchase from the UI. It would be 100% up to date at the time of search (though it shouldn't auto-update after a search is made). From the database end of things, it's just scraping various tables (for the many vendors) for info and compiling them into one view. It sounds like a complex process that might cost significant processing power, but I assure you, it's really not. We're talking processing time likely within the span of a few fractions of a second.
I know it's the popular thing to do nowadays to pretend that "X MMO has a house of cards and a hamster wheel for servers", but this is the sort of process that even a free web host could accomplish perfectly fine despite all its glorious artificial server limitations. I doubt it would cause much of any change in ESO's server performance. Especially if they kept the search frequency limitations that the Guild Stores have.
In short, I don't think you'd need to worry much.Edited by Vandril on March 7, 2019 4:40AM0 -
DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Jayman1000 wrote: »I can’t even understand the original post.
Is it okay — fine
To make blacklist about —fine
Trade center guilds clickbaiter. — you lost me.
Someone explain the problem to me, I can’t parse this today
Initially I didnt understand what the OP was about either. By reading the comments I realized he is talking about Tamriel Trade Center website that lists guild trader listings based on those that have the addon installed that have seen these listings and upload it to Tamriel Trade Center. Im sure he is correct in assuming someone abuses the addon to make fake low-priced, highly-wanted listings, just to lure someone to visit their trader in hopes they'll buy something else. And then when they get there course the listing they came for is gone.
OP then suggest to somehow blacklist these players that does this (but no info about how exactly) and to make a global AH to fix this problem. In a sense it would, because a global AH would entirely make a website like Tamriel Trade Center redundant: You would be able to look up ALL listings in an ingame AH with one click.
However for many other reasons Im against a global AH. Someone here listed some pros for the current guild trader system, and I like those pro's, dont want it changed for a global AH. I also dont see how a blacklist system would be possible, how would anyone be able to verify that a player had posted a fake listing? There are many other reasons for people to take down a listing, even after their addon uploaded it.
Ah, so that is what they are talking about.
Hard to follow rants where people never say clearly what they are ranting about. People need to take a breath and think about what they typed before pressing the post button.
There is a blacklist system. It is called a piece of paper. You write on it. But the reality is that stuff often sells before you get to a kiosk and TTC can't stop people from sending fake data, even on PC. There really should be a global search function in the game.0 -
XxCaLxX✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »Shop system is pain in backside for the buyer, but is healthy to game economy.
-Creates huge gold sink
-Adds competition between guilds to hunt for best spots
-Because of gold sink, there is no inflation or it rises very slowly
-Prices are harder to manipulate
-Adds some sort of flavour to the game
Downsides
-Harder time to find a thing you actually want
-Harder to compare prices
-Bigger guilds can create monopoly on best spots that smaller guilds probably never be able to get
-Creating ghost guilds just to secure spots.
It sucks for the buyer and the seller. If you're a seller, it means you have to set aside guild slots specifically for trade guilds. Then you need to login weekly and meet your weekly sales minimum/pay your dues. Guild masters then need to manage this whole mess, dedicating hours each week to updating spreadsheets with everyone's sales data so they can know who has met their minimums and who hasn't. It's a hassle for everyone involved.
This is so true. They could atleast add features for guilds to where they could be managed better. Non GM’s really don’t know the work it takes to correctly run a guild.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭There have been scammers in MMOs for a long time. OP says nothing that will stop that and does not offer a serious enough reason to bring about the change suggested.
The smart way to proceed is to communicate to Zos what is happening so they can investigate and take action if they find it is warranted.Edited by idk on March 7, 2019 5:56AM0 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭VexingArcanist wrote: »10% penalty for removing a posting before it sells or 30 days has past. Nips the OPs issue in the bud pretty damn quick.
100k item? 10k lost. You won't be spamming that on all your traders as a sucker lure.
and who are you to say what is overpriced? dont buy it if you think it is overpriced.0 -
Iarao✭✭✭✭
false , my point is zos better make global AH , so no point of your comment
LOL, they better make it or what?
Uhm, since when do you get to decide what this game should or should not have exclusive of the rest of the player base 😂
it seems to me that english is not his native language so cut him some slack.0