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Nerf Fungal Grotto 1
mcagatayg
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By nerfing it i mean, make it so you can not jump from waterfall to skip 75% of the dungeon. It's just bad design overall and confusing for many new players.
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daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nerf
/nəːf/
nounTRADEMARK
1.
a type of foam rubber used to make toys and sports equipment.
"Would nothing be dangerous if everything was made out of Nerf?"
verbINFORMAL•US
1.
cause to be weak or ineffective.
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Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭there are short cuts in every dungeon. nerf them too?
NO its one of those things you learn the more experienced you get.13 -
FuriousStar✭✭✭Just remember: One may jump the waterfall, but someone always winds up pulling aggro on the crab..30 -
MisterBigglesworth✭✭✭✭✭
✭I can confirm this is a severe issue.
I recorded someone in my group exploiting the so-called "waterfall shortcut", as shown below.
Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.60 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭MisterBigglesworth wrote: »I can confirm this is a severe issue.
I recorded someone in my group exploiting the so-called "waterfall shortcut", as shown below.
F'ing Yoshi.14 -
MisterBigglesworth✭✭✭✭✭
✭El_Borracho wrote: »MisterBigglesworth wrote: »I can confirm this is a severe issue.
I recorded someone in my group exploiting the so-called "waterfall shortcut", as shown below.
F'ing Yoshi.
Please no naming and shaming.Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.39 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭MisterBigglesworth wrote: »El_Borracho wrote: »MisterBigglesworth wrote: »I can confirm this is a severe issue.
I recorded someone in my group exploiting the so-called "waterfall shortcut", as shown below.
F'ing Yoshi.
Please no naming and shaming.
Actually laughed out loud. Thank you
Edited by El_Borracho on March 5, 2019 11:42PM13 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MisterBigglesworth wrote: »I can confirm this is a severe issue.
I recorded someone in my group exploiting the so-called "waterfall shortcut", as shown below.
Hey, I know that guy! He commited tax fraud before cutting through that waterfall! Get him boys!1 -
Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There's shortcut in most dungeons. It's common practice to reward exploration and experience players in game design. Have one way to do something is bad design.4 -
BloodStorm✭✭✭I tank and if player does that and others clearly don't want shortcuts I enjoy doing all bosses and ignore the other player or kick. Depends what all want.4
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Hamish999✭✭✭✭✭
✭El_Borracho wrote: »MisterBigglesworth wrote: »El_Borracho wrote: »MisterBigglesworth wrote: »I can confirm this is a severe issue.
I recorded someone in my group exploiting the so-called "waterfall shortcut", as shown below.
F'ing Yoshi.
Please no naming and shaming.
Actually laughed out loud. Thank you
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Colecovision✭✭✭✭✭
✭By nerfing it i mean, make it so you can not jump from waterfall to skip 75% of the dungeon. It's just bad design overall and confusing for many new players.
Just solo fg1 however you want. If you take a little time and build for it, it's an easy solo even in vet hm. Then you can play how you want and all the other groups will do the same.4 -
JaZ2091✭✭✭✭✭FG1 HM is still one of the most difficult Trials that has not been completed by anyone.7 -
mcagatayg✭✭✭✭Colecovision wrote: »By nerfing it i mean, make it so you can not jump from waterfall to skip 75% of the dungeon. It's just bad design overall and confusing for many new players.
Just solo fg1 however you want. If you take a little time and build for it, it's an easy solo even in vet hm. Then you can play how you want and all the other groups will do the same.
@ZOS_Finn
Finn,
I cannot tell the number of veteran random pug groups I've tried to guide through some dungeons only to find out they not only were clueless on mechanics but simply did not even meet the absolute minimum dps. But what really strikes me is hearing that same answer over and over again from these players that were clearly in no way ready for veteran:
"I'm sorry, I'm only here for the monster set. I never play dungeons, only pvp but I need this monster set and it only drops in veteran..."
I never thought I would say this but perhaps it's time to make monster sets drop in normal too, in order to avoid this. The old argument of "Let's keep the monster sets locked behind at least some skill left in the game for God's sake..." seems no longer valid.
After all they can get the shoulders by doing normal pledges, why make those people ruin veteran random group experiences by denying them monster heads to drop in the normal version, which obviously suits them 10 times better ?10 -
Colecovision✭✭✭✭✭
✭Colecovision wrote: »By nerfing it i mean, make it so you can not jump from waterfall to skip 75% of the dungeon. It's just bad design overall and confusing for many new players.
Just solo fg1 however you want. If you take a little time and build for it, it's an easy solo even in vet hm. Then you can play how you want and all the other groups will do the same.
@ZOS_Finn
Finn,
I cannot tell the number of veteran random pug groups I've tried to guide through some dungeons only to find out they not only were clueless on mechanics but simply did not even meet the absolute minimum dps. But what really strikes me is hearing that same answer over and over again from these players that were clearly in no way ready for veteran:
"I'm sorry, I'm only here for the monster set. I never play dungeons, only pvp but I need this monster set and it only drops in veteran..."
I never thought I would say this but perhaps it's time to make monster sets drop in normal too, in order to avoid this. The old argument of "Let's keep the monster sets locked behind at least some skill left in the game for God's sake..." seems no longer valid.
After all they can get the shoulders by doing normal pledges, why make those people ruin veteran random group experiences by denying them monster heads to drop in the normal version, which obviously suits them 10 times better ?
Imo, 17k group dps is fine for that boss. That's under 5 minutes. Are you in a hurry?
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XxCaLxX✭✭✭✭✭How do you figure that’s skipping 75% of the dungeon? There are 5 bosses skipping 2 would be 40% of bossed skipped but those 2 are consecutive so even if you skip both I’d say you’re skipping around 30% of the dungeon. If you do the jump on fg2 I believe you only skip one boss.3 -
Hand_Bacon✭✭✭✭✭Its all about the extra transmute and extra key for easy mode hm days.
You all who hate shortcuts in the easiest content, probably loot every barrel, crate, sack, and reread the same books while the group clears the content for you.
EDIT: If somebody asks at the beginning, a vote determines. Other than that ask for a slo-mo group in /z or /g
Edited by Hand_Bacon on March 6, 2019 1:04AM#AlmostGood@ESO1 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hand_Bacon wrote: »Its all about the extra transmute and extra key for easy mode hm days.
You all who hate shortcuts in the easiest content, probably loot every barrel, crate, sack, and reread the same books while the group clears the content for you.
EDIT: If somebody asks at the beginning, a vote determines. Other than that ask for a slo-mo group in /z or /g
Taking the way the content was meant to be played and calling it "slo-mo". Everyone's in too much of a damn hurry.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Numerikuu✭✭✭✭✭
✭MisterBigglesworth wrote: »El_Borracho wrote: »MisterBigglesworth wrote: »I can confirm this is a severe issue.
I recorded someone in my group exploiting the so-called "waterfall shortcut", as shown below.
F'ing Yoshi.
Please no naming and shaming.
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AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There are 2 big bosses and 3 minibosses in FG1. Doing the water shortcut skips 2 minibosses. When I go into a dungeon I prefer to do all bosses but when I pug it is as a healer - and healers just follow where the group goes - for better or worse. I do wish more pugs would ask instead of whoever's up front just doing the jump/skip thing.
Thankfully, I am able to solo nFG1 and much prefer do so since I can take my time, search for chests/heavy sacks and kill all the bosses.Edited by AcadianPaladin on March 6, 2019 2:33AMPC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo2 -
lokulin✭✭✭✭✭There are enough silly invisible walls as is. Please don't add more of them.I've hidden your signature.2 -
Hand_Bacon✭✭✭✭✭
Taking the way the content was meant to be played and calling it "slo-mo". Everyone's in too much of a damn hurry.
Unless I'm helping somebody learn something or just doing it for fun, then yes, its slo-mo. Pledges, for me, are to get in and out of as fast as possible with the daily reward.
Edited by Hand_Bacon on March 6, 2019 3:42AM#AlmostGood@ESO0 -
Lylith✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Colecovision wrote: »By nerfing it i mean, make it so you can not jump from waterfall to skip 75% of the dungeon. It's just bad design overall and confusing for many new players.
Just solo fg1 however you want. If you take a little time and build for it, it's an easy solo even in vet hm. Then you can play how you want and all the other groups will do the same.
@ZOS_Finn
Finn,
I cannot tell the number of veteran random pug groups I've tried to guide through some dungeons only to find out they not only were clueless on mechanics but simply did not even meet the absolute minimum dps. But what really strikes me is hearing that same answer over and over again from these players that were clearly in no way ready for veteran:
"I'm sorry, I'm only here for the monster set. I never play dungeons, only pvp but I need this monster set and it only drops in veteran..."
I never thought I would say this but perhaps it's time to make monster sets drop in normal too, in order to avoid this. The old argument of "Let's keep the monster sets locked behind at least some skill left in the game for God's sake..." seems no longer valid.
After all they can get the shoulders by doing normal pledges, why make those people ruin veteran random group experiences by denying them monster heads to drop in the normal version, which obviously suits them 10 times better ?
maybe if you run it solo it should drop a helm?
i mean, hell, you can buy the damned things on the golden and never set foot in a dungeon. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯1 -
Nemesis7884✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭oh its one of these "i dont want to do / don't like this completly optional thing so NO ONE SHALL" threadsEdited by Nemesis7884 on March 6, 2019 5:07AM0 -
bongtokin420insd16✭✭✭✭lol Today i tanked fg1 on my level 44 shiny new tank. I hit the waterfall and so did one other guy. We killed the boss before the others caught up. Guy screams in chat i am !@##$% tank that didn't listen.
He never said a word until that lol.Kaz_Wastelander PS4NA2
