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New computer for ESO.
coj901
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Right now im playing on an alienware laptop. it has a 970m with a i7 6700hq. performance is fine with settings on high until i get to cyro(most of the time i spend) and it drops to 17-25 in the zergs. I Know this game isnt optimized and all that but i am going to upgrade and this is one of the main games i play. I am getting a pre built desktop this time because i ain't got time to build one ya i know its cheaper blah blah
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079HX9F6W/ref=crt_ewc_title_oth_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
The only thing that worries me is the 1060 is 3gb not 6gb and the computer comes with only 8gb of ram not 16. i can upgrade the ram easy enough. from my understanding the i7-8700 is a good processor. I know eso is all about CPU so im wondering how this will go. I also play Battlefield,battlefront 2,and other FPSs.
What i do think will be nice is going from playing on a 17 inch 60hz monitor to a 27 inch 144hz monitor with 1ms response time.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074JLD4HZ/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079HX9F6W/ref=crt_ewc_title_oth_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
The only thing that worries me is the 1060 is 3gb not 6gb and the computer comes with only 8gb of ram not 16. i can upgrade the ram easy enough. from my understanding the i7-8700 is a good processor. I know eso is all about CPU so im wondering how this will go. I also play Battlefield,battlefront 2,and other FPSs.
What i do think will be nice is going from playing on a 17 inch 60hz monitor to a 27 inch 144hz monitor with 1ms response time.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074JLD4HZ/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
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Narvuntien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The game is very old so it actually works on really old computers (on low settings) I played on a 10-year-old computer until my monitor died. The big thing for running this game is that typically the game has a big CPU load compared to many other games so having an i7 is a good idea (my 10 yr old computer was an i7)
FPS typically have bigger GPU loads than ESO.Edited by Narvuntien on March 5, 2019 4:41AM2 -
personman_145✭✭✭You could go i5 and save yourself a hundred bucks unless you use hyperthreading. Games don't really use hyperthreading.
<--- i5 8600k, clocked at 4.7 ghz w/ Cooler Master Hyper 212 heatsink and fan.
Edit: Also, the 3GB 1060 would be a deal-breaker for me. I would probably buy elsewhere if they can't make changes.
Edited by personman_145 on March 5, 2019 7:53AMPC: i5 8600k, 16GB DDR4 2666Mhz RAM, GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
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Tonnopesce✭✭✭✭✭
✭i run with a i5 without issues , yes is slightly overclocked (7600k @4.8 ghz) with a gtx 780 ti and usually in cyro i have from 80-90 in not crowded zones to 30-40 in the heavy zerg.
Ultra settings with limited distance view and low particles also i have 8gb of ram and i believe 4 in the vga
Save yourself some money and go for the i5 imhoSignature1 -
MikaHR✭✭✭✭✭And you will still have 30 FPS in zergs so that "1ms 144 Hz monitor" is complete waste. It also wont resolve general lag, skills not firing and the rest in big fights as that is a game/server issue.
Also, GTX1060 is just bad GPU, buy RX580 instead as its same price but much faster and has 4 or 8GB of VRAM. Then you can also pick up monitor with Freesync that will be much more beneficial to gaming quality than anything else.
Genrally that PC you picked is just VERY bad deal.Edited by MikaHR on March 5, 2019 9:17AM3 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Upgrading from your current hardware won't improve performance.
When I upgraded from a GTX 970 to a GTX 1080 performance remained identical because the game is still CPU-bound and poorly optimized. GPU usage never exceeds ~40% in this game, and you can hit that with like a GTX 670. You might get 2-3 more FPS upgrading to an 8700K, but I'm not sure that's worth the extra $450.
If you're upgrading, do it for other games you play.Edited by MLGProPlayer on March 5, 2019 9:04AM2 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The 1060 is officially dead with impending release of the GTX 1660.
The new card actually costs less (msrp) than the 1060 6GB but has the same performance as the GTX 1070.
Do not get that 3GB 1060. You will regret it.4 -
JinMori✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is the worst time to build a computer considering how in a few months new cpus and gpus will be released.
What i would do is wait, and in the meantime inform myself on cpu, ram, gpu, motherboard, and everything in between, and i would also not buy a premade, building your computer is really not that hard, also, DO NOT BUY A CHEAP POWER SUPPLY, this is possibly the worst mistake you could do, because if the psu is bad, you might just fry your whole computer if something goes bad, which it probably will overtime, just buy a good quality psu, so that will most probably not happen.
And as some stated above, this game is very cpu intensive, so you will notice a difference if you have a better cpu.Edited by JinMori on March 5, 2019 1:10PM0 -
rumple9✭✭✭✭✭
✭Get 16gb of ram (2x8). I have ESO on at the moment and a couple of Firefox windows open and I can see 9.5gb of ram currently being used.
You don't need such a beefy processor unless you are streaming so get a much cheaper i5 8400 or something and with the change buy the extra ram
A 1060 isn't worth it. Get a 1080Edited by rumple9 on March 5, 2019 1:22PM0 -
theyancey✭✭✭✭✭
✭I upgraded my ancient i7 to a modern i5 and it runs extremely better. Saved money too. It is riding on a GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS Gaming 7 MB. I moved my existing 64GB of RAM over. EVGA 1070TI. While running ESO flawlessly I also have 3 browsers each with a couple of hundred tabs open going in the background.1 -
Amksed1991✭✭✭You would be better off getting an 8600K/9600K you can overclock and an RX 580 from AMD over nVidia 1060 3GB or 6GB.
I would upgrade past an RX 580 because ESO won't really utilize anything past. A beefier and overclockable CPU would give you a better performance/price ratio. I am using a 1070 TI that I upgraded from a 1060. I saw no difference in performance at 1080p gaming. I am now using a 2560x1080 monitor and the 1070 TI helps with that.
ZOS should really put a team on improving performance to utilize multiple CPUs better and utilize more of your GPU.Edited by Amksed1991 on March 5, 2019 3:35PM2 -
Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is the last game i would build a computer around. Aim higher, this is cpu based and not even truly supporting multiple cores.Edited by Mojmir on March 5, 2019 3:42PM3 -
personman_145✭✭✭If I were building today, I'd probably go for the fastest I5 and the geforce 1660.
I'm most familiar with nvidia, but I'm not brand loyal.PC: i5 8600k, 16GB DDR4 2666Mhz RAM, GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
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RouDeR✭✭✭✭✭
✭And you will still have 30 FPS in zergs so that "1ms 144 Hz monitor" is complete waste. It also wont resolve general lag, skills not firing and the rest in big fights as that is a game/server issue.
Also, GTX1060 is just bad GPU, buy RX580 instead as its same price but much faster and has 4 or 8GB of VRAM. Then you can also pick up monitor with Freesync that will be much more beneficial to gaming quality than anything else.
Genrally that PC you picked is just VERY bad deal.
1. GTX 1060 6tb is one of yhe best value for money
2. Nvidia supports FreeSync1 -
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Don't skimp on the cpu eso is far more dependent on high core speed than any graphics card you can buy for the money saved.@Solar_Breeze
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Amksed1991✭✭✭And you will still have 30 FPS in zergs so that "1ms 144 Hz monitor" is complete waste. It also wont resolve general lag, skills not firing and the rest in big fights as that is a game/server issue.
Also, GTX1060 is just bad GPU, buy RX580 instead as its same price but much faster and has 4 or 8GB of VRAM. Then you can also pick up monitor with Freesync that will be much more beneficial to gaming quality than anything else.
Genrally that PC you picked is just VERY bad deal.
1. GTX 1060 6tb is one of yhe best value for money
2. Nvidia supports FreeSync
The RX 580 is cheaper and performs as well or better than the 1060 6GB. It's not really that great of a value.
Not all FreeSync monitors work with nVidia cards.1 -
validifyedneb18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Be warned about 144hz monitors (even more so if its 2k or 4k)
ESO can run on a potato, most of the lag comes from anticheat/antibot which lags the *** out of anything. But assuming you do hit 60fps right now, 144hz is 240% more resource hungry, and 4k for example is 4x more resource hungry then 1080p, so a 4k 144hz monitor would be 16 times harder to cap out settings on. ie, would turn a 5 year old game that can run on a potatoe into a machine melting GPU task.EU: Magden, Magknight, Stamsorc(*2), Magsorc
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JinMori✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »Be warned about 144hz monitors (even more so if its 2k or 4k)
ESO can run on a potato, most of the lag comes from anticheat/antibot which lags the *** out of anything. But assuming you do hit 60fps right now, 144hz is 240% more resource hungry, and 4k for example is 4x more resource hungry then 1080p, so a 4k 144hz monitor would be 16 times harder to cap out settings on. ie, would turn a 5 year old game that can run on a potatoe into a machine melting GPU task.
Do you seriously think that someone who is thinking of buying a 1060 would use 4k 144kz? Be real.
That monitor would cost more than the computer anyway.
Also, 144hz is the limit, it's not gonna consume more resources, it's just that you can run it at higher fps, without hitting the limit, in other words it's gonna run better if you have fps to spare over 60 fps or 120 etc... There is literally no downside aside from cost.
Also, 2 k isn't even a resolution for monitors, it's a resolution for projectors usually in cinemas, 1440 p is.
Anyway, as i said this is the worst time to build or buy a pc, considering that in a few months there will be new cpus and gpus, so..Edited by JinMori on March 5, 2019 5:08PM0 -
validifyedneb18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »Be warned about 144hz monitors (even more so if its 2k or 4k)
ESO can run on a potato, most of the lag comes from anticheat/antibot which lags the *** out of anything. But assuming you do hit 60fps right now, 144hz is 240% more resource hungry, and 4k for example is 4x more resource hungry then 1080p, so a 4k 144hz monitor would be 16 times harder to cap out settings on. ie, would turn a 5 year old game that can run on a potatoe into a machine melting GPU task.
Do you seriously think that someone who is thinking of buying a 1060 would use 4k 144kz? Be real.
That monitor would cost more than the computer anyway.
Also, 144hz is the limit, it's not gonna consume more resources, it's just that you can run it at higher fps, without hitting the limit, in other words it's gonna run better if you have fps to spare over 60 fps or 120 etc... There is literally no downside aside from cost.
Also, 2 k isn't even a resolution for monitors, it's a resolution for projectors usually in cinemas, 1440 p is.
Anyway, as i said this is the worst time to build or buy a pc, considering that in a few months there will be new cpus and gpus, so..
1440p is commonly reffered to as 2k by lazy people like me.
Also there has been no major breakthroughs in either GPU or CPU tech since Ryzen 1st gen and Pascal.EU: Magden, Magknight, Stamsorc(*2), Magsorc
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JinMori✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »Be warned about 144hz monitors (even more so if its 2k or 4k)
ESO can run on a potato, most of the lag comes from anticheat/antibot which lags the *** out of anything. But assuming you do hit 60fps right now, 144hz is 240% more resource hungry, and 4k for example is 4x more resource hungry then 1080p, so a 4k 144hz monitor would be 16 times harder to cap out settings on. ie, would turn a 5 year old game that can run on a potatoe into a machine melting GPU task.
Do you seriously think that someone who is thinking of buying a 1060 would use 4k 144kz? Be real.
That monitor would cost more than the computer anyway.
Also, 144hz is the limit, it's not gonna consume more resources, it's just that you can run it at higher fps, without hitting the limit, in other words it's gonna run better if you have fps to spare over 60 fps or 120 etc... There is literally no downside aside from cost.
Also, 2 k isn't even a resolution for monitors, it's a resolution for projectors usually in cinemas, 1440 p is.
Anyway, as i said this is the worst time to build or buy a pc, considering that in a few months there will be new cpus and gpus, so..
1440p is commonly reffered to as 2k by lazy people like me.
Also there has been no major breakthroughs in either GPU or CPU tech since Ryzen 1st gen and Pascal.
Look, this is not the time to buy a computer, so close to new releases, nvidia overstock is no more now, and amd is going to release a brand new architecture in a few months and it's looking really good, nvidia and intel could still pull out something good, so this is literally the worst time to buy.0 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »Be warned about 144hz monitors (even more so if its 2k or 4k)
ESO can run on a potato, most of the lag comes from anticheat/antibot which lags the *** out of anything. But assuming you do hit 60fps right now, 144hz is 240% more resource hungry, and 4k for example is 4x more resource hungry then 1080p, so a 4k 144hz monitor would be 16 times harder to cap out settings on. ie, would turn a 5 year old game that can run on a potatoe into a machine melting GPU task.
Do you seriously think that someone who is thinking of buying a 1060 would use 4k 144kz? Be real.
That monitor would cost more than the computer anyway.
Also, 144hz is the limit, it's not gonna consume more resources, it's just that you can run it at higher fps, without hitting the limit, in other words it's gonna run better if you have fps to spare over 60 fps or 120 etc... There is literally no downside aside from cost.
Also, 2 k isn't even a resolution for monitors, it's a resolution for projectors usually in cinemas, 1440 p is.
Anyway, as i said this is the worst time to build or buy a pc, considering that in a few months there will be new cpus and gpus, so..
The 1060 is not a 144hz card at 1080p. It's barely a 60 fps card.0 -
Mudcrabber✭✭✭✭That processor's about 50% faster in single-core benchmarks than your laptop's, and a 1060's about 50% faster than a 970m. So that's about what you can expect. If you're getting 17-25 at times, expect 25-38 (50% more).
When I upgraded from a GTX 750 (less than half as fast as a 970) to a 1060, I hardly noticed a difference with the same medium-ish settings, probably due to it being more cpu-bound.
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JinMori✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »Be warned about 144hz monitors (even more so if its 2k or 4k)
ESO can run on a potato, most of the lag comes from anticheat/antibot which lags the *** out of anything. But assuming you do hit 60fps right now, 144hz is 240% more resource hungry, and 4k for example is 4x more resource hungry then 1080p, so a 4k 144hz monitor would be 16 times harder to cap out settings on. ie, would turn a 5 year old game that can run on a potatoe into a machine melting GPU task.
Do you seriously think that someone who is thinking of buying a 1060 would use 4k 144kz? Be real.
That monitor would cost more than the computer anyway.
Also, 144hz is the limit, it's not gonna consume more resources, it's just that you can run it at higher fps, without hitting the limit, in other words it's gonna run better if you have fps to spare over 60 fps or 120 etc... There is literally no downside aside from cost.
Also, 2 k isn't even a resolution for monitors, it's a resolution for projectors usually in cinemas, 1440 p is.
Anyway, as i said this is the worst time to build or buy a pc, considering that in a few months there will be new cpus and gpus, so..
The 1060 is not a 144hz card at 1080p. It's barely a 60 fps card.
Should be able to get about 90 fps on 1080.
Definitely not on eso though, this game sucks for performance.Edited by JinMori on March 5, 2019 8:35PM0 -
Itzmichi✭✭✭✭✭Wait a few months new generation is on the horizon. Prices will drop and you will benefit from it.Here, have a chill pill 💊!1 -
ZeroXFF✭✭✭✭✭
✭For the best experience in ESO right now you need a CPU with a very high clock speed and IPC, and accordingly good motherboard and cooling so that your CPU can keep turboing and remain cool (i7-8700k/9900k would probably be the best options, but you can go with something more mid range but still high clocks, even if the thread count is lower, like i5-8600k/9600k). Graphics card is pretty much irrelevant, pick something mid-range and you can play with all settings maxed out, especially if you're only going to play on 1080p.
I would not recommend buying a pre-built PC. Find a shop where you can pick the parts and they build it for you. If you go that route, we could throw together something on pcpartpicker and you could go out and find a place where they would build something close to that.1 -
LMar✭✭✭✭✭
✭This is the worst time to build a computer considering how in a few months new cpus and gpus will be released.
What i would do is wait, and in the meantime inform myself on cpu, ram, gpu, motherboard, and everything in between, and i would also not buy a premade, building your computer is really not that hard, also, DO NOT BUY A CHEAP POWER SUPPLY, this is possibly the worst mistake you could do, because if the psu is bad, you might just fry your whole computer if something goes bad, which it probably will overtime, just buy a good quality psu, so that will most probably not happen.
And as some stated above, this game is very cpu intensive, so you will notice a difference if you have a better cpu.
@JinMori when are the new cpus and gpus being released?"If a stick of fish is a fish stick, it will stick like other fish sticks stick"
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TheValkyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Upgrading your computer beyond a certain point will not improve your experience. I upgraded to a SSD drive for ESO, new GPU, more ram and a new processor. I'm still sitting around the same performance.1 -
Casdha✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have an i7 8700 (not K) and GTX 1070 playing on 40"Samsung 4k @ 4k 60Hz and I get 60 fps in overland and 45fps in areas with lots of folks like crafting hubs. GPU never maxes out.
I got about 50 to 55 fps top end with an i7 6700 and a GTX 1070 running @ 4k if that gives you any kind of insight. Both systems had 16GB ram.
Edit: dropping either system to 1080p had no benefit in fps.Edited by Casdha on March 6, 2019 7:03AMProud member of the Psijic Order - The first wave - The 0.016%0 -
p_tsakirisb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Right now im playing on an alienware laptop. it has a 970m with a i7 6700hq. performance is fine with settings on high until i get to cyro(most of the time i spend) and it drops to 17-25 in the zergs. I Know this game isnt optimized and all that but i am going to upgrade and this is one of the main games i play. I am getting a pre built desktop this time because i ain't got time to build one ya i know its cheaper blah blah
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079HX9F6W/ref=crt_ewc_title_oth_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
The only thing that worries me is the 1060 is 3gb not 6gb and the computer comes with only 8gb of ram not 16. i can upgrade the ram easy enough. from my understanding the i7-8700 is a good processor. I know eso is all about CPU so im wondering how this will go. I also play Battlefield,battlefront 2,and other FPSs.
What i do think will be nice is going from playing on a 17 inch 60hz monitor to a 27 inch 144hz monitor with 1ms response time.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074JLD4HZ/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
You need CPU with higher clock speeds, 8700 doesn't overclock and only has 1 core at 4.6Ghz, and given the $1K pricetag a 8600K/9700K @ 5Ghz (all core overclock) is much better. GPU wise an RX580 8GB is perfect for 1080p and Vega 64 for 2560x1440 (if you make custom game profile and set P7 as min state).
Try to find custom build overclocked systems tbh. If you could build your own PC it could have cost less than 1K also.
Freesync monitor is also must as it would eliminate stuttering and tearing and smooth the fps in area like vulkhel guard withtout tying you in long term to Nvidia GPU only. (as NV, AMD and Intel support FS)
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