Well, at least we've identified a possible solution. ZoS just revert it for one campaign, if people want lag they can play in the other one.

Perhaps those PvP weapons that mentioned for the future will be strong enough to quickly flatten huddled players without completely evaporating a single target in one hit.

Iskiab wrote: »

Yea, siege isn’t the solution. It needs to be a player ability - like inevitable detonation - that does it. Making skills like inevitable detonation stronger (or at least functional) which would also stop warden and pet zoo premades.

Issue is simple - strong short range aoe healing and no long range aoe damage.

I wonder if scaling siege damage would have the desired effect. Negligible damage against 1-3/4 targets, but it starts to scale steeply and does significant damage if it hits 6+. Requires timing/placement to use and have significant effect, would also require defensive strategy from the group taking the siege hits. Idk anymore, pvp is so crappy these days.

Draxys wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

Yea, siege isn’t the solution. It needs to be a player ability - like inevitable detonation - that does it. Making skills like inevitable detonation stronger (or at least functional) which would also stop warden and pet zoo premades.

Issue is simple - strong short range aoe healing and no long range aoe damage.

I wonder if scaling siege damage would have the desired effect. Negligible damage against 1-3/4 targets, but it starts to scale steeply and does significant damage if it hits 6+. Requires timing/placement to use and have significant effect, would also require defensive strategy from the group taking the siege hits. Idk anymore, pvp is so crappy these days.

Awesome idea, still need a mechanic to combat faction stacking at the last emp keep... i.e. losing control of keep resources decreases the siege cap, etc.

I can assure you that the only thing that may have affected ball groups about the siege bug was the fact it coincided with a huge meta change and new pve content. I know at least one of the guilds I'm in took a break on one of the normal raiding nights due to this, not the siege changes, and still raided one of its other raid nights and encountered plenty of the usual vivec guilds on that raid night. The other vivec pvp guild I'm in has been raiding as normal, as the usual sizes it always has.

Last night patch wasn't released, and I was constantly getting kicked out of the game. And there was huge lag when I could connect. And today it is the same after patch, now I can't even login. This has nothing to do with siege bug or ball groups, it is the usual server hamsters problem.

Mayrael wrote: »

Thanks to latest patch Cyrodiil is unplayable again. Between ping spikes, and kicks (today only 4), I have so much worse performance than I had through last week it's stunning. I've lost my will to play again... I prefer to get hit by 15k siege weapon than not being able to defend against 2k steel tornado spam. Thanks but it's not for me. You can have my

I suspect it's the way the skills work with a broken engine.

But hey, Roaming Potato Bowls QQ > forsight

Recremen wrote: »

Ball groups never went away even during the giant siege damage mayhem. Your post is based on a flawed analysis of events.

Strange because during last week I've seen ball group literally 2 times. Yesterday I have seen many of them on each side...