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ZOS can we get a "story" version of difficulty for dungeons (keep vet and hard mode the way they are

  • Linaleah
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    even when I can find groups to do dungeons in, its just NOT the same in a group vs solo. even in those incredibly ridiculously rare occasions when begging and pleading and cajoling and making puppy eyes gets me a group that is willing to wait for me to explore and gawk and listen to text - its just no the same. becasue I cannot just go in and do it, it has to be schedules, i get ONE try at this, so if I miss something that's pretty much that. getting group to do the story specifically on one character was difficult enough, getting it for an alt? aint happening.

    and there is that whole - someone else finishes dialogue before you and progresses it - it progresses for you to whether you are done or not - thing.

    dungeons are group conten, yes yes yes, we know. but they have a TON of story and lore to them too, and I swear to you its actualy easier to fine a group to do vet achievements with than it is to find a group that will patiently wait for you to do the story and exploring at YOUR pace.

    dirty worthless casual.
    Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***
    Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"
  • A_Silverius
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    Would be great for dungeons and trails too, but only if there are no rewards or loot tables are changed to overland rewards. Everyone just rushes through the damn dungeons/trials leaving you behind trying to appreciate the voice acting and writing, why even bother putting in so much effort and detail? Its the sole reason why I never bothered with Dungeon dlcs, I imagine I'm not alone in this regard.
    All over Tamriel, theres a sudden spike in Bosmers getting caught for their crimes. A sad day indeed... #FightForYourRite Give Bosmers back our stealth!
  • Juhasow
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    Looks like someone dont understand term "GROUP dungeons".

    Looks like someone doesn’t understand the phrase “stand in someone else’s shoes”

    Looks like someone got triggered. Also have You tried to stand in my shoes ?
    Edited by Juhasow on February 27, 2019 10:56PM
  • Wing
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    Linaleah wrote: »
    even when I can find groups to do dungeons in, its just NOT the same in a group vs solo. even in those incredibly ridiculously rare occasions when begging and pleading and cajoling and making puppy eyes gets me a group that is willing to wait for me to explore and gawk and listen to text - its just no the same. becasue I cannot just go in and do it, it has to be schedules, i get ONE try at this, so if I miss something that's pretty much that. getting group to do the story specifically on one character was difficult enough, getting it for an alt? aint happening.

    and there is that whole - someone else finishes dialogue before you and progresses it - it progresses for you to whether you are done or not - thing.

    dungeons are group conten, yes yes yes, we know. but they have a TON of story and lore to them too, and I swear to you its actualy easier to fine a group to do vet achievements with than it is to find a group that will patiently wait for you to do the story and exploring at YOUR pace.

    agreed, would love to just be able to chill and relax and wander a dungeon at my own pace.
    ESO player since beta.
    game got too disappointing.
  • Arilenya
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    ZOS_MikaS wrote: »
    We have recently removed some unnecessary back and forth from this thread. Please keep in mind that, while it is fine to disagree, name calling and insults are not constructive and not in the spirit of our community. Thank you for your understanding

    We have, for a not recent amount of time, wanted to be able to experience dungeon story lines without a group. Please keep in mind that, while it is fine to do your job moderating threads, players tend to sonic speed through dungeons preventing newer players from experiencing anything and understand what is going on. This is not constructive and not in the spirit of Elder Scrolls, which has always been about the experience and not the end result. And until a story mode of all dungeons is released, this behavior will persist and turn a certain type of player away from that system. Thank you for your understanding.
    Altaïr: You of all people should know the answer; educate them. Teach them right from wrong. It must be knowledge that frees them. Not force.
    Jubair: They do not learn, fixed in their ways as they are. You are naive to think otherwise. It is an illness, for which there is only one 'cure'."
  • idk
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    Linaleah wrote: »
    even when I can find groups to do dungeons in, its just NOT the same in a group vs solo. even in those incredibly ridiculously rare occasions when begging and pleading and cajoling and making puppy eyes gets me a group that is willing to wait for me to explore and gawk and listen to text - its just no the same. becasue I cannot just go in and do it, it has to be schedules, i get ONE try at this, so if I miss something that's pretty much that. getting group to do the story specifically on one character was difficult enough, getting it for an alt? aint happening.

    and there is that whole - someone else finishes dialogue before you and progresses it - it progresses for you to whether you are done or not - thing.

    dungeons are group conten, yes yes yes, we know. but they have a TON of story and lore to them too, and I swear to you its actualy easier to fine a group to do vet achievements with than it is to find a group that will patiently wait for you to do the story and exploring at YOUR pace.

    I have no idea why you have so much trouble. Even when I run with competitive raiders who focus on clearing content fast and smooth, if someone wants to do the story line they will pause. Granted, most of the time we go fast. Have cleared some vet HM dungeons in less than 10 minutes.

    So I really do find it hard to believe that it is so challenging to find a group willing to take it slow. Someone is doing something wrong.

    But Zos should do something about the dialogue if someone does space bar through it. That is not right.
    Edited by idk on February 28, 2019 9:43AM
  • A_Silverius
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    The easiest solution to this with minimal development cost is to:
    1. Create an option for story Dungeons and Trials (That can be done solo or in group)
    2. Disable loot tables and xp gain to prevent farming
    3. Grant player immunity or massive heal over time while in story Dungeons and Trials

    This way players can take their own sweet time to listen to quest dialogues and read lorebooks that ZOS spent quality time and effort to put into detail.
    All over Tamriel, theres a sudden spike in Bosmers getting caught for their crimes. A sad day indeed... #FightForYourRite Give Bosmers back our stealth!
  • A_Silverius
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    The easiest solution to this with minimal development cost is to:
    1. Create an option for story Dungeons and Trials (That can be done solo or in group)
    2. Disable loot tables and xp gain to prevent farming
    3. Grant player immunity or massive heal over time while in story Dungeons and Trials

    This way players can take their own sweet time to listen to quest dialogues and read lorebooks that ZOS spent quality time and effort to put into detail.

    4. Give player a huge damage percentage increase buff
    All over Tamriel, theres a sudden spike in Bosmers getting caught for their crimes. A sad day indeed... #FightForYourRite Give Bosmers back our stealth!
  • Linaleah
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    idk wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »
    even when I can find groups to do dungeons in, its just NOT the same in a group vs solo. even in those incredibly ridiculously rare occasions when begging and pleading and cajoling and making puppy eyes gets me a group that is willing to wait for me to explore and gawk and listen to text - its just no the same. becasue I cannot just go in and do it, it has to be schedules, i get ONE try at this, so if I miss something that's pretty much that. getting group to do the story specifically on one character was difficult enough, getting it for an alt? aint happening.

    and there is that whole - someone else finishes dialogue before you and progresses it - it progresses for you to whether you are done or not - thing.

    dungeons are group conten, yes yes yes, we know. but they have a TON of story and lore to them too, and I swear to you its actualy easier to fine a group to do vet achievements with than it is to find a group that will patiently wait for you to do the story and exploring at YOUR pace.

    I have no idea why you have so much trouble. Even when I run with competitive raiders who focus on clearing content fast and smooth, if someone wants to do the story line they will pause. Granted, most of the time we go fast. Have cleared some vet HM dungeons in less than 10 minutes.

    So I really do find it hard to believe that it is so challenging to find a group willing to take it slow. Someone is doing something wrong.

    But Zos should do something about the dialogue if someone does space bar through it. That is not right.

    becasue you are STILL
    GOING
    TOO
    FAST

    I want to go through conversation options, ALL of them. I want to stop sometimes and just look around. I want to enjoy myself instead of feeling guilty for making other people wait. when I play at my comfort level, i play very. VERY. slowly. I HAVE been able to very rarely find groups that came close to being ok with my pace, and even THEN, there were times when they would start to move on and clear trash while I'm still smelling the roses and so I'd feel guilty and start trying to catch up to them.

    its not a relaxing experience.

    so as i have said. finding a group to just clear a dungeon, even on Vet, is far far FAR easier then finding 3 people who essentially have infinite patience to wait for you
    dirty worthless casual.
    Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***
    Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"
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