Skin and pet from the Wrathstone dungeons

zvavi · February 2019

Rejoice most of the community, the skin and pet are much easier to get. you got what you asked for.

Now about how i felt when i finished the dungeons:
As a player that enjoys this content (yey~), it felt empty. yes, empty. For me, and many others that enjoys the dungeons, they are usually more fun the more we run them, and after getting the skin/personality, they enter the realm of "very fun dungeon i know well and go there to casually have fun" while the others i didn't get the skin/personality for yet are "the dungeons i go to tryhard kick butts". After finishing vFV and vDoM (even did vDoM hm), it left me with the feeling of "why should i go there again?"
while i do pug, and will pug older DLC dungeons, cause u know, they are one of the two above things i stated, i am not sure i will ever feel like pugging the new dungeons. and i believe many of the higher end content players feel like me. it just means more frustration to the casual community, because there will be less people to help them improve in these dungeons.

i might be wrong though. maybe i will feel like going there later as well (with pugs) but for now, i don't. remind me to update in a month!

edit: i might be going there to hunt for the achievements as well, but it will be much much later. the dungeons i dont have achievements yet are more appealing to me cause of the rewards

Ratzkifal · February 2019

You will go there again as soon as motifs start dropping. That sweet sweet Auroran style

zvavi · February 2019

Ratzkifal wrote: »

You will go there again as soon as motifs start dropping. That sweet sweet Auroran style

not with pugs, i will grab 3 more guildies and go farm hm, like we did for vMoS

karekiz · February 2019

I wouldn't mind if they gave a mount or personalty for challenger. Mounts are always great carrots.

Atallanta · February 2019

I’m completely fine with those collectibles being easier to get, as I will go hunt for all other achievements anyway.

Thevampirenight · February 2019

karekiz wrote: »

I wouldn't mind if they gave a mount or personalty for challenger. Mounts are always great carrots.

I am against anything that requires a no death run. If it does not have that then I'm fine with it.

Trancestor · February 2019

Yeah it felt extremely underwhelming getting the skin compared to previous dlc dungeons, and everyone in the game now has it too yay!

russelmmendoza · February 2019

I guess no death in vet hm is the way to go then.
Op players are the only ones who should get any collectable in harder contents in the game.
Lowbies who want the collectables should grind for over a year to get that collectible in no death vet hm dungeon.

They should do this in bg too. No death and 100 kill in one match is required to get the arena weapon style in bg.

The op is so op, this will be a piece of cake for them.

Ohtimbar · February 2019

I'm glad to hear that possibly a broader range of players might be able to acquire these items. I strongly suspect, though, that the range will be broader by only the slightest amount in the greater scope of the game. I hope they go much further in this direction in the future.

zvavi · February 2019

russelmmendoza wrote: »

The op is so op, this will be a piece of cake for them.

I guess that I am sorry for sharing how I feel about it and my opinion on it? No, I don't have most of the skins/personalities. But I do believe I will get them one day.
This is the high end group content, GROUP content. I don't think that pugging it once and getting the achievement for passing it once on vet, should reward you with a skin. I pugged vFL the other day, asked the healer to swap to DD at last boss, and we almost did it due, because the other dd's lacked experience and damage (up till last boss we somehow managed with explaining mechanics etc, but at last boss it was too harsh).

So ye, I did congratulate most of the community for getting a "free" skin that you need to work a small tiny bit to get, or get three people to carry u easily for gold, or just ask veterans in your guild help with it really quick, and I am sorry that I offended you for thinking that the skins should have more meaning than cheap accessory.

Ohtimbar wrote: »

I'm glad to hear that possibly a broader range of players might be able to acquire these items.

I am happy you enjoyed it, it is quite nice thing to do from zos, to the community, I will still miss the feeling that "achieving" the skin means, u know what I am saying?

XxCaLxX · February 2019

Much easier to get means a whole lot more will obtain it which makes it less appealing. If everyone was running around with the beastial or wormwizard personality then I wouldn’t really use mine. It’s like the skin from new life festival, I collected it but will never use it. Everyone has it so doesn’t interest me. I understand role players though that are more into using cosmetics for their character theme or whatever but to me I like to wear stuff that I feel I earned through some tough content that not many can do.

Edziu · February 2019

done them just on ve with friends at start
cant see difference from other dlc dungs, without hm it is easy af so Im dissapointed as that easy it was to obtain skin

now until new motifs in these dungs I have no ppoit going back here even for challenger achievs...as they gice nothing than character bound title and I lay balls on any character bound achievs - so everythng except those with unlockable skins, personality etc which I will do once to get them, that all for me since I dont play my main char anymore to hunt achievs

EDIT: about diffuculty - easy with people which you know they know what to do here + these newest dlc dungs are easier than last ones from wolfhunter or dragonbones for me - as those new dont have that much needed insane burst dps to nuke something like archivist in vMhK for example

FierceSam · February 2019

I like the fact that there is some kind of very visible reward for completing DoM on hard mode - it will be really interesting to see how many of these skins I can spot in Tamriel and might give a vague indication of how popular vet DLC dungeons really are. But if this reward draws in more players then it’s done what it was supposed to do.

I also like the idea that some rewards and achievements are hard to get. I like to have something to aim for. I might not get there, but then I didn’t think I’d be soloing dolmens and World Bosses or doing regular vet no death runs when I started playing.

kind_hero · February 2019

zvavi wrote: »

russelmmendoza wrote: »

The op is so op, this will be a piece of cake for them.

I guess that I am sorry for sharing how I feel about it and my opinion on it? No, I don't have most of the skins/personalities. But I do believe I will get them one day.
This is the high end group content, GROUP content. I don't think that pugging it once and getting the achievement for passing it once on vet, should reward you with a skin. I pugged vFL the other day, asked the healer to swap to DD at last boss, and we almost did it due, because the other dd's lacked experience and damage (up till last boss we somehow managed with explaining mechanics etc, but at last boss it was too harsh).

So ye, I did congratulate most of the community for getting a "free" skin that you need to work a small tiny bit to get, or get three people to carry u easily for gold, or just ask veterans in your guild help with it really quick, and I am sorry that I offended you for thinking that the skins should have more meaning than cheap accessory.

Ohtimbar wrote: »

I'm glad to hear that possibly a broader range of players might be able to acquire these items.

I am happy you enjoyed it, it is quite nice thing to do from zos, to the community, I will still miss the feeling that "achieving" the skin means, u know what I am saying?

I am baffled by your statements. Do you know there are skins which everyone can get with crowns? Or hard to get styles, like Welkynar, can be bought with 5k crowns?

There are skins like the vAS/vHOF/vCR ones which are restricted to hardcore raiders who can do those achievements, and easier to get skins which most of people can get. This one is easier to get, but still out of reach for casual players or people who do not enjoy PvE. Maybe you wanted an other exclusive skin, but this is not one of them, so go for the Sanctified Silver or something like that instead, and stop with the elitist talk. Even having such a skin does not fully guarantee you are one of the top players, since there is a market for carrying people for these skins and titles.

I am quite happy that I can get a pretty cool skin without raiding veteran trials, and I do not mind that most people will have it. I do not play to have something that others do not, I care about my goals, not what others have achieved. There are plenty of hardmode exclusive rewards in this game, and it is a good thing the devs chose to make this skin obtainable for a larger player base. I am sure the next Elsweyr trial will have plenty of stuff for hardcores, so good luck with those.

Reistr_the_Unbroken · February 2019

XxCaLxX wrote: »

Much easier to get means a whole lot more will obtain it which makes it less appealing. If everyone was running around with the beastial or wormwizard personality then I wouldn’t really use mine. It’s like the skin from new life festival, I collected it but will never use it. Everyone has it so doesn’t interest me. I understand role players though that are more into using cosmetics for their character theme or whatever but to me I like to wear stuff that I feel I earned through some tough content that not many can do.

I found the person with the “if I can’t be the only one to have it, then nobody should have it” mentality lmao

Kalgert · February 2019

You feel empty for getting an appearance for completing Veteran once?

How do you think I feel, when I generally feel empty whenever I do get some kind of coveted appearance or anything that may have some rarity to it?

I certainly am glad to see that I need to complete only the Veteran dungeon to get the unlocks, it will at least be goving me a slight peace of mind in consideration of how I feel mildly bothered internally seeing the appearances locked up.

zvavi · February 2019

kind_hero wrote: »

I am quite happy that I can get a pretty cool skin without raiding veteran trials.

If you would have read any of my comments, you would notice that I didn't say it is a bad thing. I even said it is nice of zos to do it for the community. My first paragraph was just answer to a troll comment, about making it impossible to get but for 0.1% of the community. (Please no one can get no death and hm without some dedication and way too much time and reaction speed).

Also, I am in 5 social guilds. No raiding guilds.

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

I found the person with the “if I can’t be the only one to have it, then nobody should have it” mentality lmao

Yes, because not going to wear it is totally not wanting it to exist. Not sure if you are another troll or serious

Kalgert wrote: »

I certainly am glad to see that I need to complete only the Veteran dungeon to get the unlocks

Again, happy for you, enjoy the skin

XxCaLxX · February 2019

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

XxCaLxX wrote: »

Much easier to get means a whole lot more will obtain it which makes it less appealing. If everyone was running around with the beastial or wormwizard personality then I wouldn’t really use mine. It’s like the skin from new life festival, I collected it but will never use it. Everyone has it so doesn’t interest me. I understand role players though that are more into using cosmetics for their character theme or whatever but to me I like to wear stuff that I feel I earned through some tough content that not many can do.

I found the person with the “if I can’t be the only one to have it, then nobody should have it” mentality lmao

Yeah that’s exactly what I was meaning. Smh. 90% of eso population run to watch Online builds and videos on how to press buttons to do anything and excuse me if I don’t want to be a counterfeit copy of every other player in the game. If zos wants to basically give out a free skin I don’t object. That doesn’t mean I have to wear it.

Coatmagic · February 2019

I was under the impression this game was 18+ xD

'Check out my bling! ~ Neener-neener; L2P and you can look like me!'

Most of the community has no idea (or cares) why some characters look like they fell asleep in a kindergarten art class,
and now, because ZoS has decided to appease the few who do, the big bads be like 'Well I'm not wearing that trash *pout*'

People never cease to amaze me -_-

DarkPicture · February 2019

Its a bad change, with each update there's no more reasons doing HM's. Of course i will still fight for titles etc but when I finished hm/sr/nd I feels like I deserve on those rewards, now when everyone running the new skin i dont wanna even use it because its not rare.

And problem with titles is also most of people are even dont know for which achi is title. It would be a good change if the titles starts have a a special color not only white so it could make titles more attractive and recognizable.

zergbase_ESO · February 2019

I was happy for pet and skins for clearing Vet. If you need snowflake rewards I am sure ZoS will add them.

MartiniDaniels · February 2019

I don't get what this post is about. Issue is that title and skin were interchanged in place? This dungeons are fun and full of new mechanics as well as tank/dps/healer build adequate checks. They are less brutal then MHK yes, but in line with BF, SCP, looks fair. MHK is simply one big sick nuke check.

Jolipinator · February 2019

zvavi wrote: »

"why should i go there again?"

This is what 99% of players ask regarding all dungeons.

Facefister · February 2019

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

I don't get what this post is about. Issue is that title and skin were interchanged in place? This dungeons are fun and full of new mechanics as well as tank/dps/healer build adequate checks. They are less brutal then MHK yes, but in line with BF, SCP, looks fair. MHK is simply one big sick nuke check.

Like the new dungeons.

angelncelestine · February 2019

I am happy to see that there seems to be more interest in the DLC dungeons. For people that never would have had the chance to obtain the cosmetics now have a very good chance. Seems to me that even if you have to pug these on vet you have a chance to get them. With that said, as a player that looked forward to completing the challenges for the cosmetics I completely understand why the poster feels the way that they do. After completing all of the challenges, and when you could finally put on that skin or hat or whatever it felt good. I haven't seen many people running around in there bathers costume with this new skin. Most likely because it's nothing to be proud of anymore.

Facefister · February 2019

Because that skin is a handout. Depths of Malatar is mind-numbingly easy on nonhm vet. Skins are trophies and this skin is nothing like that.

Anhedonie · February 2019

Last good looking skin we got was during the Craddle of Shadows release. After that we started to get lazy reskins or bland designs. Not even worth it for normal pug runs tbh.

josiahva · February 2019

zvavi wrote: »

Rejoice most of the community, the skin and pet are much easier to get. you got what you asked for.

Now about how i felt when i finished the dungeons:
As a player that enjoys this content (yey~), it felt empty. yes, empty. For me, and many others that enjoys the dungeons, they are usually more fun the more we run them, and after getting the skin/personality, they enter the realm of "very fun dungeon i know well and go there to casually have fun" while the others i didn't get the skin/personality for yet are "the dungeons i go to tryhard kick butts". After finishing vFV and vDoM (even did vDoM hm), it left me with the feeling of "why should i go there again?"
while i do pug, and will pug older DLC dungeons, cause u know, they are one of the two above things i stated, i am not sure i will ever feel like pugging the new dungeons. and i believe many of the higher end content players feel like me. it just means more frustration to the casual community, because there will be less people to help them improve in these dungeons.

i might be wrong though. maybe i will feel like going there later as well (with pugs) but for now, i don't. remind me to update in a month!

edit: i might be going there to hunt for the achievements as well, but it will be much much later. the dungeons i dont have achievements yet are more appealing to me cause of the rewards

I agree, the skins should always be reserved for getting all the achievements...just another example of ZOS catering to the casual player. I hear endless complaints vet DLC dungeons are too hard...but it just isnt true. What is true is that people dont want to put in the time and still want all the rewards...and THAT is what ZOS catered to

HappyLittleTree · February 2019

The falkreath skin is cool still workin gon it tho' xD

NordSwordnBoard · February 2019

Facefister wrote: »

Because that skin is a handout. Depths of Malatar is mind-numbingly easy on nonhm vet. Skins are trophies and this skin is nothing like that.

So, it becomes like Crystalfrost - with an even shorter shelf life for novelty as everyone can get it quickly. I actually like the idea though - more people will try for it and get it. Then, next time if it reverts back to HM+ND+S some people will hit a brick wall, but some will improve and get to the next level. Nudging baby birds out of the nest so to speak.

Kalgert · February 2019

zvavi wrote: »

Kalgert wrote: »

I certainly am glad to see that I need to complete only the Veteran dungeon to get the unlocks

Again, happy for you, enjoy the skin

Who says that I'm gonna be using it?

I just want them to be checked out as "Collected" so I can have a peace of mind. If I wanted to make myself look butt-ugly, I'd do that in the character creation screen by making an overweight character, or some kind of homunculus character.