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SIEGES BROKEN AND NO HOTFIX?!?!?!?!?!

  • fastolfv_ESO
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    i love how people are saying the "changes" are fine, it wasnt changes its a bad bug making battle spirit partially broken and needs to be fixed. If they wanted to make siege damage changes so be it but this wasnt some smart zenimax change it was just a failed update
  • yodased
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    Grymmoire wrote: »
    memofin wrote: »
    Siege is fine. l2p

    Sure siege is just fine....while defense sprays areas with cold fire and if you are anywhere near the splash 28.8k instant damage. Same with oils 28.8k damage cannot use rams on doors effectively just ballista away from a safe distance...yup just fine! *snickers*

    If keep is properly defended you should not be able to siege it. Thats the entire point of a defendable position, the entire reason castles exist in any world.

    For years ESO has been a game of win by numbers, at least for these two weeks there have been actual counters to that strategy..

    Should 1 person be able to defend against 100 by pouring boiling oil on them as they battering ram a door? Of course thry should. The defense design of the structure makes this not only probable, but easy and a great idea.

    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Grymmoire
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    yodased wrote: »
    Grymmoire wrote: »
    memofin wrote: »
    Siege is fine. l2p

    Sure siege is just fine....while defense sprays areas with cold fire and if you are anywhere near the splash 28.8k instant damage. Same with oils 28.8k damage cannot use rams on doors effectively just ballista away from a safe distance...yup just fine! *snickers*

    If keep is properly defended you should not be able to siege it. Thats the entire point of a defendable position, the entire reason castles exist in any world.

    For years ESO has been a game of win by numbers, at least for these two weeks there have been actual counters to that strategy..

    Should 1 person be able to defend against 100 by pouring boiling oil on them as they battering ram a door? Of course thry should. The defense design of the structure makes this not only probable, but easy and a great idea.

    I beg to differ and point out your own admission "If a keep is properly defended..." One person defending is hardly a properly defended keep imho and in all of history (yes I realize ESO is fantasy) what castle was successfully defended by one person?
  • danno8
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    yodased wrote: »
    Grymmoire wrote: »
    memofin wrote: »
    Siege is fine. l2p

    Sure siege is just fine....while defense sprays areas with cold fire and if you are anywhere near the splash 28.8k instant damage. Same with oils 28.8k damage cannot use rams on doors effectively just ballista away from a safe distance...yup just fine! *snickers*

    If keep is properly defended you should not be able to siege it. Thats the entire point of a defendable position, the entire reason castles exist in any world.

    For years ESO has been a game of win by numbers, at least for these two weeks there have been actual counters to that strategy..

    Should 1 person be able to defend against 100 by pouring boiling oil on them as they battering ram a door? Of course thry should. The defense design of the structure makes this not only probable, but easy and a great idea.

    Real life comparisons can lead you to some pretty silly outcomes though. For example, real sieges can last for months at a time.

    However, I do like the more dangerous siege, just not quite so strong as it is now.
  • Rake
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    i love how people are saying the "changes" are fine, it wasnt changes its a bad bug making battle spirit partially broken and needs to be fixed. If they wanted to make siege damage changes so be it but this wasnt some smart zenimax change it was just a failed update

    It just shows how clueless some people are
  • Vapirko
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    It’s good, siege were too inconsequential. I think some small adaption needs to be made becuse it’s very hard on light armor magicka builds that aren’t Templars. I did not like it at first but after accepting it for what it was it’s made battles way more tactical and dynamic.
    Edited by Vapirko on February 28, 2019 4:33AM
  • TheBonesXXX
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    Grymmoire wrote: »
    memofin wrote: »
    Siege is fine. l2p

    Sure siege is just fine....while defense sprays areas with cold fire and if you are anywhere near the splash 28.8k instant damage. Same with oils 28.8k damage cannot use rams on doors effectively just ballista away from a safe distance...yup just fine! *snickers*

    Only a handful of playstyles have been catered to in Cyrodiil.

    And people aren't used to other playstles actually getting a chance. Not everybody can be a leet internet hero capable of destroying groups of 15.

    Some people have bad hands, surgeries, carpal tunnel, working for 30 years then just being old and worn out.

    Some people have had strokes, some people are a little slow on the synapse, but all these people handicaps included also enjoy PVP.

    So the game needs to be designed so multiple playstyles cans coincide, help some people just have bad ping.

    Please try to see the big picture.
  • Vapirko
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    They should just change rams so that if you’re under the roof of it you can’t be hit with the oils. But then the guys up top could flame reach and knock you into the oil.
  • Kane_Hart
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    @Kane_Hart on PC N/A please send me your items when you quit.
    PC - NA - @Kane_Hart
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  • russelmmendoza
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    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Zergs are crying, its the best thing zos did for cyrodiil. Its working as intended, melting those zergs running wild in cyrodiil. Lets see you stand in flaming oil now.
    Edited by russelmmendoza on February 28, 2019 5:31AM
  • MikaHR
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    PC gamers are just beta testers for consoles.
  • xxthir13enxx
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    Heh all this RIP talk has me...
    https://youtu.be/F-glHAzXi_M
  • olsborg
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    Nothing in cyrodiil gets hotfixed. If it was pve leaderboards etc it would get fixed within the hour. Thats just how it is🥴

    PC EU
    PvP only
  • Nyteshade
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    memofin wrote: »
    Siege is fine. l2p

    If you think it's fine "maybe" the one who should l2p is you.

    Siege that you can't just stand under and shrug off. Imagine that. I really like how it is right now, I wish they would leave it.

    I rarely use siege but I like having to worry about it a little bit. Like, standing around a keep with the enemy up on the wall actually has a tiny bit of a thrill to it now.
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