well here i was, thinking maelstrom arena was going to be easier with a stamsorc.

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Turns out it's not haha
Back to my magsorc again.

or am i using wrong gear?
I'm using :
-Viscious ophidian : Dagger, Axe, Jewelry ( gold) (Weapon damage , poision damage , absorb stam glyphs (gold))
-Night mothers gaze : 5-item / Devine/ Max stamina enchant
-Veleidr ( spider thing) monster set

thing is i think the gear doesn't matter, i'm just not skilled enough with stamsorc. I made the character 3 days ago :p I seem to have sustain issues , but i don't get it even with dark deal.
  • IWinWithPewPew
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    Turns out it's not haha
    Back to my magsorc again.

    or am i using wrong gear?
    I'm using :
    -Viscious ophidian : Dagger, Axe, Jewelry ( gold) (Weapon damage , poision damage , absorb stam glyphs (gold))
    -Night mothers gaze : 5-item / Devine/ Max stamina enchant
    -Veleidr ( spider thing) monster set

    thing is i think the gear doesn't matter, i'm just not skilled enough with stamsorc. I made the character 3 days ago :p I seem to have sustain issues , but i don't get it even with dark deal.

    By the way, DPS-wise i outskill my sorcerer 24/7 haha
  • Tannus15
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    you shouldn't have sustain issues with VO. just kill the things.
  • IWinWithPewPew
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    godamn youtubers made it seem like a piece of cake hahaha :p i blame them.
  • zvavi
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    sorc is one of the easier classes to complete maelstrom on, cause u can focus more on burning and less on defense (surge is over powered), a lot of mobs are dead even before they manage to attack you. but honestly? maelstrom is not easy, just go there and practice. i still believe i lack practice, my best score is still around 560k (stupid 3 deaths, i will get the flawless one day) and i am one of those idiots that refuse to use sigils or change build too much for the arena (yes yes, i am stupid). i did complete it on my mag dk as well though, and i want (and plan, once studies cool down a bit) to try it on my nb characters etc etc. gotta give my dds more love~~
    also if u have problems i might recommend swapping for two handed for maelstrom, there is an attack that with the morph gives u a nice shield.
    Edited by zvavi on February 28, 2019 2:34AM
  • LiquidPony
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    I don't know why people use VO weapons for this.

    Just craft NMG daggers and use VO on the jewelry/body. If you use VO weapons you are giving up those crazy 5-piece sustain bonuses every time you're on your backbar.

    Are you using The Lover Mundus?

    What race are you? What food are you using?

    I've never once used Dark Deal on a stamsorc in vMA and have never had sustain issues, either.
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    I don't know why people use VO weapons for this.

    i dont think he has maelstrom bow backbar yet
  • IWinWithPewPew
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    I don't know why people use VO weapons for this.

    Just craft NMG daggers and use VO on the jewelry/body. If you use VO weapons you are giving up those crazy 5-piece sustain bonuses every time you're on your backbar.

    Are you using The Lover Mundus?

    What race are you? What food are you using?

    I've never once used Dark Deal on a stamsorc in vMA and have never had sustain issues, either.

    I use VO Bow on backbar...
    yes i'm using The Lover
    I'm a redguard , and yeah... perhaps theres my problem.. i'm using cyrodillic field tonic food :p hhaha :p
  • ArchMikem
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    StamSorc's issue is survivability. Crit Surge can outheal the smaller damage, but when you're facing multiple enemies or harder hits, dodge, block, run away. Funny thing is I couldn't get Stormproof on my MagSorc, but when I made her Stam I went back and did it. Just remember, you don't have a shield anymore and Crit Surge doesn't outheal everything.
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  • ccfeeling
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    Your setup is good , NMG + VO + critical surge, it's easy to clear VMA even Flawless .

    What you miss is stam build practice tho :)
  • zvavi
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    i have read again your first comment, magsorc is the thing i do maelstrom easiest on, i dont even have a shield slotted. it is just practice, practice, and determination. if you want an easy pass in maelstrom u can try the easy pet sorc build with plague doctor (just google it). but i would recommend going in with your usual setup + small changes, i find it most fun and feels much more rewarding when you pass it for the first time. also remember that when u feel too much pressure, the sigils are there for you. remember the times u die most in, and either find a way to counter it or use a sigil then.
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    You can't beat vMA with just PewPew.

    You have to practice ... even with prior clears on a different class.
  • LiquidPony
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    I don't know why people use VO weapons for this.

    Just craft NMG daggers and use VO on the jewelry/body. If you use VO weapons you are giving up those crazy 5-piece sustain bonuses every time you're on your backbar.

    Are you using The Lover Mundus?

    What race are you? What food are you using?

    I've never once used Dark Deal on a stamsorc in vMA and have never had sustain issues, either.

    I use VO Bow on backbar...
    yes i'm using The Lover
    I'm a redguard , and yeah... perhaps theres my problem.. i'm using cyrodillic field tonic food :p hhaha :p

    Why on earth would you be using Cyrodiilic Field Tonic?

    Just use standard blue bi-stat food. Braised rabbit and spring vegetables or whatever.
  • zvavi
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    You can't beat vMA with just PewPew.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=wO5zS5aMOow
  • Nebthet78
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    You can do this OP!!

    If I, as a really crappy player now who can no longer get over 22k dps after the heavy attack weave nerf, and other nerfs to stam sorcs, in addition to my disabilities, can get to the final round of Stage 9 (That's where I've stopped for now), then you can beat it.

    Stage 5 has a tendency to be the worst for sheer number of enemies and the power of the Ice witches. They hurt a lot.
    There is one youtube vid, specifically made with a Stamsorc, who slows things down enough, for you to be able to see approximately where these enemies are popping up.

    Now, you said you PVP... this should be an advantage to you... movement is your friend... you will use it often... also, as many AOEs as you can.
    My tactic for this round was to first place as many AOEs over the initial spawn point and then go to the next one, and take down the second most important enemy. Then as more enemies would pop up, I would lay my Caltrops and Endless hail in the middle area between all ice pads and have the enemies follow me into there. I never stopped moving... I would have whirlind on and run circles around enemies, lay more dots and keep moving from one platform to the other, heavy attack, light attack, flurry, rapid strikes, move, move, move...

    You may have to use slightly different abilities now, like slotting out another ability for rapids to give you that speed boost when you need it.. you'll of course need Vigor and lots of different pots.

    The next PITA stage I found was Stage 7... The poison stage, but it is pure RNG. If the poison spawns under the shield, you are screwed no matter what.

    Stage 9 for the most part, isn't bad, until you get to the Crystal stage.... after you break the 3 crystals, you need to take out the summoner and a daedroth if it is up... (I've been told one shouldn't be up right away at this stage, but when I was doing it, it was always up), just, take the summoner out and find the damn shield and grab it right away.

    Again, more pots... stock up on hundreds of repair kits, take a few different armour sets with you. Take a heavy Chudan set if you need it. Or Earthgore for o'crap heals.

    Redo your CP.... take the points out of Crit Damage and put them into other resistances.. You are much better served with them spent properly to help mitigate the damage you are taking.

    Eventually I'll get it done, I just don't have the drive to go back in there for a while. Not until my character is back in a place I can work with it.

    But, try not to let it get to you.. Take a break from the place if you need it.. sometimes a week of rest away from the place helps.
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  • abzdeman
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    Slimecraw (crit & 8% extra damage)
    5 vo nirn & infused weapons. Poison & absorb
    Maelstrom bow (must have) infused. Wep dmg
    5 night mothers ( all divines ofc)
    Bi food / dubious. (Go Bi food)
    Rings - 2 infused 1 bloodthirsty all gold gear ofc min max

    Practice Practice Practice.

    Even when you die you make sure that you try and finish it even if you have to save the quest and leave your character there. Learn spawns and mechanics and don't panic. I used to be really bad it takes time.

    I'm flawless conqueror on my stam sorc and his race is khajit so not even redguard which is bis. I'm not changing next patch because I don't care about meta never have never will.
  • russelmmendoza
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    Ahhh, vet malstrom arena, my nightmare that will never end.
    I just dont try anymore, even with cp810, I'm just a headless chicken running around in a frozen rink.

    Never again.
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    Use hundings all the time instead of NMG. That will boost your vigor by quite a lot and storm fist for your monster set which gives some more sustain. I also like 5 medium 2 heavy. And of course vMA bow I’d you have it.

    DW: blood craze, vigor, crushing wpn, hurricane, bound armaments. Flawless DB

    Bow: endless hail, Crit Surge, poison injection, caltrops, bound armaments. Bow Ult (really really helpful)

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    1x stamina recovery glyph on jewelry

    This is not a super speed run setup, but you’ve got plenty of damage and survivability/sustain. Don’t forget to open with the DW heavy attack on adds, it really helps with sustain and it’s fast. Never ever let Crit Surge drop. Learn to dodge roll cancel vigor when you’re in trouble and always open with blood craze for even more heals.
    Edited by Vapirko on February 28, 2019 5:24AM
  • Robo_Hobo
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    You could try with a 2h, Brawler is very good for survivability in VMA. I don't have any Vicious Ophidian, wish I did, but with my StamSorc I used Briarheart, Hundings, and Stormfist, mostly because that's just all I have and I don't feel like grinding out something else lol.

    The heals from Briarheart, Surge, and Vigor, and the shields from using the 2h were way more than enough. If you want to even be more safe, you can use Evasion from the Medium Armor tree to reduce AoE damage by 25%, which is good in some areas, especially if you die a lot from the Daedroth at the last arena.

    With Sustain, just keep in mind you don't have to do your full rotation every time, a lot of enemies die too quickly for it, and when you're running up over to an enemy, you can start a heavy attack along the way.

    If you start to get low on health and Surge and the other heals aren't cutting it, just spam Brawler to get back in control, even if there's only one enemy, it's still a pretty nice shield, especially now that it has resistance stats. Heck, I've even used it when there were no enemies sometimes for a little shield just to keep me alive a couple of extra seconds, to get back on my feet lol.
  • UndeniablyAVG
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    abzdeman wrote: »
    Maelstrom bow (must have) infused. Wep dmg

    Suggesting using a weapon that drops from the content he's trying to complete seems counter-intuitive. And saying that it is a must have item for completion is even more confusing.
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  • DoonerSeraph
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    My first vMA clear was on a stam sorc double bow build (and I am quite scrubby).

    Critical Surge and hurricane are amazing. Also try to keep VO 5 pieces on the body so you never lose the sustain on bar swap.

    I think you're just not used to play stamina, I was successful on my stamsorc by being completely crazy and relying on crits to heal myself,l with crit surge and hurricane.
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    Just replace Velidreth by Iceheart. 5 VO and NMG at all time. And NMG on front bar when you have a MA bow.
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  • eliisra
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    Think it's mostly because not used to playing stamina. Everything becomes harder when you use a new build or class. You can't do stuff automatically and with muscle memory on a new character. Stuff like best positing and movement is different to and you have to re-learn.

    Sustain issues on a new builds&class often comes from the fact that you're spamming unnecessary things, because panic or lack of experience. Can also be because taking unnecessary damage and that's why you have to spam more. It's not always the build that's the main problem.

    Only advice i can give other than practice, is to play more aggressively and with less hesitation. You have better burst om stamsorc, so take advantage of that.
  • Matthros
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    I used VO, Stormfirst, and Briarheart to clear VMA the first time. The heal from Briarheart helped a lot.
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    What CP are you at? How are you using your CP? On my low level alt, I found to be taking quite a bit more damage so I went with a more defensive monster set. That was about CP 250. I know the arena pretty good. It was rough with that toon.

    Many people swear by Sorc being the easiest class for Maelstrom. I’ve still no idea why. I lean more toward warden, templar, nightblade. Even now, I still struggle with Sorc. Stam DK is also kind of rough for me too.

    It sounds like your making or re spec a toon just for Maelstrom, hoping for an easier clear or time; but your still not in the zone exactly. It takes a lot of practice. Lot of wipes to really learn the place good.

    Once you get it though, you got it on farm.
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    Surge and vigor are your best friends in there. As long as youre doing damage you should be healing.
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    zvavi wrote: »
    ... (surge is over powered)...

    You may not know this, but at release Surge had no cool down (it is once per second now) and healed you for a large % of the crit damage done. It was ridiculously strong.

    Now it's just very good.
  • zvavi
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    Well I am relatively new to the game, but I know that with surge I can ignore my hp as long as I nuke them fast enough :D
  • Sarousse
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    Seven Legion, Troll King, ravager, werewolf => the Arena becomes easy mode.

    Werewolf is insane there.
  • jkolb2030
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    You will never truly see an ez mode vma until you spend enough time in there to begin to figure out what ads are spawning at each round and which portal certain ads are coming from.

    The stamsorc is one of the best stam classes (if not best overall class) to learn on because you have access to a lot of different tools with this character. You have the mobility, AoE dmg, and defenses all from one skill in hurricane - and on top of that you have the self healing from crit surge, and sustain boost with dark deal.

    Really any combination of gear will work in vMA, as long as you are putting the time in to actually learn the arenas as you die to them - it is almost* impossible to face roll a good vMA run without learning it. Find gear that goes with your playstyle, learn the stamsorc skills and buffs and get ready for a pain in the ass run.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    abzdeman wrote: »
    Slimecraw (crit & 8% extra damage)
    5 vo nirn & infused weapons. Poison & absorb
    Maelstrom bow (must have) infused. Wep dmg
    5 night mothers ( all divines ofc)
    Bi food / dubious. (Go Bi food)
    Rings - 2 infused 1 bloodthirsty all gold gear ofc min max

    Practice Practice Practice.

    Even when you die you make sure that you try and finish it even if you have to save the quest and leave your character there. Learn spawns and mechanics and don't panic. I used to be really bad it takes time.

    I'm flawless conqueror on my stam sorc and his race is khajit so not even redguard which is bis. I'm not changing next patch because I don't care about meta never have never will.

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