The purpose of Wrathstone simply put: to kill off sustain
Numbers are coming up way too short whatever I'd be thinking about.
Not just my 4 nord toons I have are quite killed off, but I just don't see any fix.
Changing the race won't solve the problem. Could probably get more health if I go for specific health sets. But that means giving up everything else.
Health regen looks far less possible than before...
I don't know. I thought I'll be enticed to come back and play, but it just doesn't give me any reason to do it.
Not just my 4 nord toons I have are quite killed off, but I just don't see any fix.
Changing the race won't solve the problem. Could probably get more health if I go for specific health sets. But that means giving up everything else.
Health regen looks far less possible than before...
I don't know. I thought I'll be enticed to come back and play, but it just doesn't give me any reason to do it.
"Is it true her wounds healed on their own ? Yes" No s***, at 75% health regen penalty!
I was a vampire like you, but then I took an idea to the head...
I was a vampire like you, but then I took an idea to the head...
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✭✭✭I'm the opposite. I'm excited about the gains by Nords' new racial. I may miss the health, but Nords gain enough to more than make up for it. Both PvP and PvE is going to get better for mine.Fear is the Mindkiller7 -
VexingArcanist✭✭✭✭Title is misleading and in error. Breton sustain improved.
I believe most feel Nord change was a plus.8 -
AngryOldMan✭✭✭✭Imperial sustain is greatly improved now, just saying
PS: I got an imperial DK tank and i like the reduced ability cost4 -
lassitershawn✭✭✭✭✭4k armor and spell resist + ult gen is so much better than health regen...William Thorne - EP Breton Sorcerer
Astrid Winterborn - EP Breton Warden
Erik Ironskin - EP Nord Dragonknight
Venasa Viri - EP Dunmer Nightblade
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Are you talking about just health regen or everything?
Oh yeah, the 20% loss is huge. It was applied to everything else health regen I had on me."Is it true her wounds healed on their own ? Yes" No s***, at 75% health regen penalty!
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✭✭✭I figured the purpose was to demonstrate how grievously unqualified the devs are at -balancing- anything.PC-NA : 19 Khajiit and 1 Fishy-cat with fluffy delusions. cp3600
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VexingArcanist wrote: »Title is misleading and in error. Breton sustain improved.
I believe most feel Nord change was a plus.
While Breton looks better with that 7% spell cost reduction, I don't see anything good about Nords."Is it true her wounds healed on their own ? Yes" No s***, at 75% health regen penalty!
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✭✭✭✭I’ve had sustain improvements, especially on khajiit. The increase to resources from CP has really helped as well."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
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lassitershawn✭✭✭✭✭fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »VexingArcanist wrote: »Title is misleading and in error. Breton sustain improved.
I believe most feel Nord change was a plus.
While Breton looks better with that 7% spell cost reduction, I don't see anything good about Nords.
4k physical and spell resist. ult gen. 100x better than HP regen.William Thorne - EP Breton Sorcerer
Astrid Winterborn - EP Breton Warden
Erik Ironskin - EP Nord Dragonknight
Venasa Viri - EP Dunmer Nightblade
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AngryOldMan wrote: »Imperial sustain is greatly improved now, just saying
PS: I got an imperial DK tank and i like the reduced ability cost
I would say it looks interesting indeed:
Increases Experience gain in One Hand and Shield Skill Line by 15%, extra 1% Gold gain → No changes
Tough: 12% Max Health → Increases your Max Health by 2000.
Conditioning: 10% Max Stamina → Imperial Mettle: Increases your Max Stamina by 2000.
Red Diamond: 10% Chance on Melee Attack to heal for 6% of Max Health → When you deal Direct Damage you have a 15% chance to heal for 1750. Reduces the cost of your Block and Bash abilities by 5%.
But pity about this "Direct Damage" thing. Can't create Direct Damage while blocking..., I had a bloody good idea about it....Edited by fxeconomisteb17_ESO on February 27, 2019 10:47PM"Is it true her wounds healed on their own ? Yes" No s***, at 75% health regen penalty!
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✭✭✭fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »AngryOldMan wrote: »Imperial sustain is greatly improved now, just saying
PS: I got an imperial DK tank and i like the reduced ability cost
I would say it looks interesting indeed:
Increases Experience gain in One Hand and Shield Skill Line by 15%, extra 1% Gold gain → No changes
Tough: 12% Max Health → Increases your Max Health by 2000.
Conditioning: 10% Max Stamina → Imperial Mettle: Increases your Max Stamina by 2000.
Red Diamond: 10% Chance on Melee Attack to heal for 6% of Max Health → When you deal Direct Damage you have a 15% chance to heal for 1750. Reduces the cost of your Block and Bash abilities by 5%.
But pity about this "Direct Damage" thing. Can't create Direct Damage while blocking..., I had a bloody good idea about it....
Sure you can.BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA1 -
lassitershawn wrote: »fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »VexingArcanist wrote: »Title is misleading and in error. Breton sustain improved.
I believe most feel Nord change was a plus.
While Breton looks better with that 7% spell cost reduction, I don't see anything good about Nords.
4k physical and spell resist. ult gen. 100x better than HP regen.
But you didn't have HP regen on Breton. And really, tanking is nothing without HP regen. Your life will keep going down regardless of your mitigation, if you don't heal. And it was super nice to have handsfree healing on the Nord."Is it true her wounds healed on their own ? Yes" No s***, at 75% health regen penalty!
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✭✭✭✭✭There is that new set that increases your health regen by 1% of your combined physical and spell resistance...Edited by Ratzkifal on February 27, 2019 10:53PMThis Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
Grandma✭✭✭✭✭actually most races got bigger sustain. nords are better tanks overall now. sustain has been a joke since morrowind, let's be real.GH / 3/04/2021 / Elemental Catalyst Necromancer0 -
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✭✭✭Nord is low-key one of the most OP races in the game now.
Awesome PvE tanks and just ridiculously tanky PvP builds. Nord stamDKs and stamdens are going to be cancer.1 -
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✭✭✭fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »lassitershawn wrote: »fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »VexingArcanist wrote: »Title is misleading and in error. Breton sustain improved.
I believe most feel Nord change was a plus.
While Breton looks better with that 7% spell cost reduction, I don't see anything good about Nords.
4k physical and spell resist. ult gen. 100x better than HP regen.
But you didn't have HP regen on Breton. And really, tanking is nothing without HP regen. Your life will keep going down regardless of your mitigation, if you don't heal. And it was super nice to have handsfree healing on the Nord.
What good is HP regen if you're blocking one-shots at full health?Fear is the Mindkiller0 -
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✭fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »AngryOldMan wrote: »Imperial sustain is greatly improved now, just saying
PS: I got an imperial DK tank and i like the reduced ability cost
I would say it looks interesting indeed:
Increases Experience gain in One Hand and Shield Skill Line by 15%, extra 1% Gold gain → No changes
Tough: 12% Max Health → Increases your Max Health by 2000.
Conditioning: 10% Max Stamina → Imperial Mettle: Increases your Max Stamina by 2000.
Red Diamond: 10% Chance on Melee Attack to heal for 6% of Max Health → When you deal Direct Damage you have a 15% chance to heal for 1750. Reduces the cost of your Block and Bash abilities by 5%.
But pity about this "Direct Damage" thing. Can't create Direct Damage while blocking..., I had a bloody good idea about it....
Basically all tanking skills are direct damage and you can use all of them while blocking.PC/NA - Nightfighters, Raid Leader and Officer
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✭✭✭✭✭I feel like my sustain improved over what it was before. I can do a rotation without struggling to maintain it and run out of stamina. I still have to watch it and do LA and use siphoning strikes but it is easierBeta tester November 20130 -
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✭I got ninety-nine problems with Wrathstone, but sustain ain't one.forever stuck in combat2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Uh that was Morrowind...
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Ajax_22✭✭✭✭✭fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »AngryOldMan wrote: »Imperial sustain is greatly improved now, just saying
PS: I got an imperial DK tank and i like the reduced ability cost
I would say it looks interesting indeed:
Increases Experience gain in One Hand and Shield Skill Line by 15%, extra 1% Gold gain → No changes
Tough: 12% Max Health → Increases your Max Health by 2000.
Conditioning: 10% Max Stamina → Imperial Mettle: Increases your Max Stamina by 2000.
Red Diamond: 10% Chance on Melee Attack to heal for 6% of Max Health → When you deal Direct Damage you have a 15% chance to heal for 1750. Reduces the cost of your Block and Bash abilities by 5%.
But pity about this "Direct Damage" thing. Can't create Direct Damage while blocking..., I had a bloody good idea about it....
That is the incorrect passive for Red Diamond. They changed it from the first week of the PTS.1 -
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✭✭✭✭fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/460633/pc-mac-patch-notes-v4-3-5-wrathstone-update-21. Tough: Gain 12% Max Health → Increases your Max Health by 2000.
Conditioning: Gain 10% Max Stamina → Imperial Mettle: Increases your Max Stamina by 2000.
Red Diamond: 10% Chance on Melee Attack to heal for 6% of Max Health → When you deal Direct Damage, you restore 333 Health, Magicka, and Stamina. This effect has a 5 second cooldown. It also will reduce the cost of all abilities by 3%.0 -
Synthwavius✭✭✭✭I thought that it was about killing all addons to make the gameplay even more tiresome0 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
Red Diamond: 10% Chance on Melee Attack to heal for 6% of Max Health → When you deal Direct Damage, you restore 333 Health, Magicka, and Stamina. This effect has a 5 second cooldown. It also will reduce the cost of all abilities by 3%.
Even less appealing now.
"Is it true her wounds healed on their own ? Yes" No s***, at 75% health regen penalty!
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✭✭✭✭fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
Red Diamond: 10% Chance on Melee Attack to heal for 6% of Max Health → When you deal Direct Damage, you restore 333 Health, Magicka, and Stamina. This effect has a 5 second cooldown. It also will reduce the cost of all abilities by 3%.
Even less appealing now.
then you have no idea what is good.6 -
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✭✭✭✭fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »
But pity about this "Direct Damage" thing. Can't create Direct Damage while blocking..., I had a bloody good idea about it....
You can't?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ok. sustain got hurt? maybe for altmers, nords and lizards.
red guards, imperials, wood elves, breton, cats their sustain got super buffed.
orcs and dark elves the same sustain.
so over all sustain got buffed, i wouldnt even include nord in the calculation, because the flat resistances lets him wear the new stonekeeper and easily reach resistance cap (in case of tanking).
and to that one comment about imperials that said that u can't deal direct damage while perma blocking.
1. a good tank dont permablock. u heavy attack when u can anyway. u weave some skills when boss is not attacking u.
2. heroic slash and piercing strike are both dealing direct damage. so does bashing (and the cost is really low from shield play enchants).
3. 3% reduction cost to everything is also a sustain buff (if i am not mistaken includes: block, skills, ultimate).2
