Do you wish the siege equipments can stay strong?

Diundriel · February 2019

Nah remove it they are just for knock doors/walls

kinda sad: Performance Looks a bit better, but they kill the game (cyro) xD

FleetwoodSmack · February 2019

Keep siege-OP a thing

I haven't seen Cyrodiil this fun back since the Imperial City was added (before they ruined it). There was actual FIGHTS and not zerg balls ruining the map.

Here's an idea. Keep the siege like this on all the servers except one.

Make that last one a zerg ball map. Because they're the ones dying to the siege. Not actual players who... You know- Can actually move out of the telegraph.

Raudgrani · February 2019

Keep siege-OP a thing

It encourages actually playing objective, taking keeps and resources. It evens out big/small groups a bit, and it requires a little strategy. You need not only to break walls/door, but you need to keep your siege healthy, and take out enemy counter siege. When broken through the walls, I see potential for a lot more interesting fights, when the defender more or less needs to establish a foothold in the outer keep. I like the idea of "OP siege".

Chilly-McFreeze · February 2019

Nah remove it they are just for knock doors/walls

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

I haven't seen Cyrodiil this fun back since the Imperial City was added (before they ruined it). There was actual FIGHTS and not zerg balls ruining the map.

Here's an idea. Keep the siege like this on all the servers except one.

Make that last one a zerg ball map. Because they're the ones dying to the siege. Not actual players who... You know- Can actually move out of the telegraph.

Yep. Felt actually amazing when I killed a group of far better players than me by simply shooting a ballista in their backs while they were busy with an "actual FIGHT". /s

FleetwoodSmack · February 2019

Keep siege-OP a thing

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

I haven't seen Cyrodiil this fun back since the Imperial City was added (before they ruined it). There was actual FIGHTS and not zerg balls ruining the map.

Here's an idea. Keep the siege like this on all the servers except one.

Make that last one a zerg ball map. Because they're the ones dying to the siege. Not actual players who... You know- Can actually move out of the telegraph.

Yep. Felt actually amazing when I killed a group of far better players than me by simply shooting a ballista in their backs while they were busy with an "actual FIGHT". /s

They're in a warzone and they're don't watch what's happening behind them. That's not my problem.

Edited because I misread.

Chilly-McFreeze · February 2019

Nah remove it they are just for knock doors/walls

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

I haven't seen Cyrodiil this fun back since the Imperial City was added (before they ruined it). There was actual FIGHTS and not zerg balls ruining the map.

Here's an idea. Keep the siege like this on all the servers except one.

Make that last one a zerg ball map. Because they're the ones dying to the siege. Not actual players who... You know- Can actually move out of the telegraph.

Yep. Felt actually amazing when I killed a group of far better players than me by simply shooting a ballista in their backs while they were busy with an "actual FIGHT". /s

You're in a warzone and you don't watch what's happening behind you. That's not my problem.

Close. But not quite there yet

FleetwoodSmack · February 2019

Keep siege-OP a thing

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

I haven't seen Cyrodiil this fun back since the Imperial City was added (before they ruined it). There was actual FIGHTS and not zerg balls ruining the map.

Here's an idea. Keep the siege like this on all the servers except one.

Make that last one a zerg ball map. Because they're the ones dying to the siege. Not actual players who... You know- Can actually move out of the telegraph.

Yep. Felt actually amazing when I killed a group of far better players than me by simply shooting a ballista in their backs while they were busy with an "actual FIGHT". /s

You're in a warzone and you don't watch what's happening behind you. That's not my problem.

Close. But not quite there yet

It's still their problem if they're not watching what's happening. Siege wasn't just intended for walls. It was used to lob flaming rocks at giant groups of people marching in for conquest. It just happens that they're more known for lobbing those things over and at the inner walls. People conveniently also forget this.

I do agree that just in the field with sieges and there's no keep is kind of stupid. But I'll take it as is, thanks.

Diundriel · February 2019

Nah remove it they are just for knock doors/walls

you dont die to siege in Keep fight cause you dont see the aoes you die cause often on pc eu non cp siege are kinda everywhere; cp might be different, cause they were less strong Always in cp campaigns… but non cp Group Play is kinda rip

Thlepse · February 2019

just give up trying to reason with them, they C L E A R L Y are beyond redemption, but I do want to thank each and everyone defending this absurd siege damage

you are the reason the combat "balance" is at its current state, thanks for refusing to learn how to play the game

Varana · February 2019

Nah remove it they are just for knock doors/walls

Siege was in a decent spot before. So just return to how it was.

Oh, you mean CP campaigns? Sorry, don't care.

Red_Feather · February 2019

Keep it a thing but only in some of the campaigns

It would be cool for it to be active during certain times or events. Just for how much it changes the dynamic. Maybe more things like this could be done. Can't wait for the cursed weapons!

cpuScientist · February 2019

Nah remove it they are just for knock doors/walls

This needs to go obviously. Takes skill out of the game and is AS ALWAYS just a tool for zergs to abuse. How anyone can be happy with this *** I just don't get it anymore....

DJfriede · February 2019

Nah remove it they are just for knock doors/walls

Why do we even act as if this change was intended? It's like ZOS is saying: "Whoopsie, we screwed up. But hey guys, mayyyyyybe it is cool with you all and we save us all the trouble to revert that line of code, right? Right?"

They literally just toned down the damage of sieges some patches ago! Why on earth would the damage we have now be intended? Seriously, you guys!

esotoon · February 2019

Keep it a thing but only in some of the campaigns

If it is truly beneficial, and people want it fir the CP Campaigns, then keep it. But remove it from non-cp campaigns.

Sotha has been pretty dead in terms of campaign since it happened. It’s just become a place to farm ap.

AndyMac · February 2019

Keep siege-OP a thing

Currently siege in Vivec NA PC can be pretty much ignored until they stack multiple hits in the one place - even then with half decent heals, you’ll be good. It’s a bit of a joke really.

With the bug, you definitely can not let it tick at all which seems closer to where it should be.

Maybe it’s somewhat OP, maybe not.

TheBonesXXX · February 2019

Keep siege-OP a thing

Diundriel wrote: »

TheBonesXXX wrote: »

It's a fixed projectile, with an incredibly slow trajectory, it takes forever to fire thing, and it even has a ground indicator to tell people to get out of the way.

There's really no argument to it, it has so many visual cues to tell a player to move and if they don't they deserve to die.

nice joke;
what if e.g. brk inner Keep is defended by 20ep sieges and you gotta get in somehow??? there is no way to avoid the aoes ^^

Keeps have four walls.. create another hole.

Diundriel · February 2019

Nah remove it they are just for knock doors/walls

take a look at non cp vs cp on eu; Queues for non cp are much longer in prime time. most of the time vivec doesnt even have a Queue...on pc eu; it used to be the other way round, but changed since murkmire

ezio45 · February 2019

Don't want increased siege dmg

Bhelen · February 2019

Nah remove it they are just for knock doors/walls

If siege stayed strong like this they would have to rework the entire system. People are sticking siege up in a field to fire at a couple of people at a time. In no-cp cold-fire is hitting for 20k a tick and going through shields so if you don't have a purge you just die.

It needs to scale off of number of people hit like proxy detonation and only be deploy-able near keeps, towers and bridges.

VaranisArano · February 2019

Given that the last time siege was buffed, the buff got reverted, I don't see anything that justifies keeping this buff.

Personally, I like long drawn out sieges once in a while. But night after night of stacked factions trying to push into multiple breaches gets old. It encourages stacking - that way there are people left after the first 30 get melted on the breach. It also encourages PvDoor, because the best way to capture a keep is to take it before any defenders arrive.

We've already seen how this plays out with Summerset catapult buffs. Why are we up for round 2 when that buff got reverted?

xxthir13enxx · February 2019

Keep it a thing but only in some of the campaigns

https://youtu.be/50_iRIcxsz0

ruikkarikun · February 2019

Keep siege-OP a thing

First I didn't want, but hey.
Let's go guys. Crush this to the end. Go Go.

TheBonesXXX · February 2019

Keep siege-OP a thing

SKYICE01 wrote: »

thedude33 wrote: »

5 just took a tower. Survived 3x oils on them. Apparently, it's doable

lel you cant Survive in 3x oils it does 14k per tick or your usless zergling that stacks HP or your saying you can heal 42000k HP anyway we all dont play stam mag cant even shield oil *** zerlings who wants this to stay well done killing off the good players

I guess I gotta say it, but most people are legends in their own mind.

Big dumb brutes with a massive ego with zero cunning and the tactical acumen of a rabid cat.

Holycannoli · February 2019

Diundriel wrote: »

TheBonesXXX wrote: »

It's a fixed projectile, with an incredibly slow trajectory, it takes forever to fire thing, and it even has a ground indicator to tell people to get out of the way.

There's really no argument to it, it has so many visual cues to tell a player to move and if they don't they deserve to die.

nice joke;
what if e.g. brk inner Keep is defended by 20ep sieges and you gotta get in somehow??? there is no way to avoid the aoes ^^

Use your own to take them out, or breach multiple walls. Taking theirs out isn't always easy but you can always attack the side doors of the keep as well and spread the defenders out.

Diundriel · February 2019

Nah remove it they are just for knock doors/walls

Holycannoli wrote: »

Diundriel wrote: »

TheBonesXXX wrote: »

It's a fixed projectile, with an incredibly slow trajectory, it takes forever to fire thing, and it even has a ground indicator to tell people to get out of the way.

There's really no argument to it, it has so many visual cues to tell a player to move and if they don't they deserve to die.

nice joke;
what if e.g. brk inner Keep is defended by 20ep sieges and you gotta get in somehow??? there is no way to avoid the aoes ^^

Use your own to take them out, or breach multiple walls. Taking theirs out isn't always easy but you can always attack the side doors of the keep as well and spread the defenders out.

you probably just Play with 100 of your own alliance in your back; tho it wouldnt even work if you are in a grp of 12 vs 30+
nearly laughed

Katahdin · February 2019

Nah remove it they are just for knock doors/walls

No, open field seige battles would be boring. No one would ever fight each other. Could there be some tweeking sure, but right now they are stupid OP

BRogueNZ · February 2019

No strong opinion

I've moved more toward the 'keep them as is' camp since the patch.

It's not impossible and more rewarding busting something or defending.
The counter siege is just as hard to deal with. hopefully

Mr_Walker · February 2019

Kiddies, if you want strong siege engines, just play noCP. Take them training wheels off and come on in. We've had really strong siege engines for ages.

JumpmanLane · February 2019

1 Cold-fire ballista should not kill everyone on a ram after only firing once lol. Just saying...and I fired the shot lol.

Vapirko · February 2019

Keep siege-OP a thing

I think ZOS will come back with it at some sort of middle ground between what it was and what it is now, hopefully also adjusting it for no CP as well and I think it will be good.