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What's your beat dps achieved on a hybrid?

dangutang
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To be clear, I mean using a mix of stam and mag damage abilities. I'm interested in what sort of dps people have been able to achieve! So please share :)

Messing around on build editor with new racials, seems like dunmer hybrid dk works well for a pelinal's build. Source of major and minor brutality and all that. With regens of about 1200-1400 for stam and mag, about 10k penetration, weapon crit around 36 and spell crit around 26 I think.... Assuming divvying up between stam and mag efficiently allows for it, using molag kena let's me hit 6.6k weapon and spell damage (this is also using 1h and shield for the extra 5% weapon damage and a source of major breach and fracture...obviously can't use this in groups but maybe fun for puging normals as tank). Mag and stam both at 21k. Hoping to try it out but haven't decided on skills yet. I'm thinking a bow hybrid might be nice, using the poison snipe morph to synergize with dks 25% cost reduction.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    I bet 20-25k is ceiling even for top players (if this is true hybrid with comparable maxmagicka/maxstamina).
  • Kolzki
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    Here's something I was playing with on the pts at the end of last summer getting almost 31k on a dummy.

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    So it isn't the cheapest build to make:
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    As a dark elf, the character has good passives for stamina and magicka stats (even better with this week's patch). This patch khajiits are sold as hybrids, but I figure that hybrids can't stack high crit chance so the khajiit crit damage passive is actually pretty weak for hybrids (if they had kept critical chance than they would have made fantastic hybrids).

    Dragon knights have easy access to major brutality and sorcery from igneous weapons and major prophecy and savagery from flames of oblivion. They also have their whip spammable, which I figure is a must have for a hybrid because who doesn't want to use whip with dual wield? The battle roar passive gives us magicka and stamina when we use ultimates. We have all the buffs we need so we use tri stat potions. Sustain is fantistic.

    Twice born star gives us access to two mundus stones. The lover is essential for physical and magic penetration and allows us to get decent spell penetration in medium armour. The theif gives both physical and magic critical chance or other wise use the warrior. We stack into weapon damage and use pelinal's aptitude to mirror that for a high spell damage value. We go dual weird with two swords for damage done and a maelstrom bow because maelstrom bows are awesome.

    We have lots of champion points available and stacking into one star has diminishing returns. Hybrids can spread wide so actually make very efficient use of champion points.

    Here's where it goes south. Tri stat glyphs everywhere. This give us enough health to use max mag max stam food but is very expensive. The jewelry is also crafted so horribly expensive too. Total cost of the build? Probably approaching 2 million gold with all that gold crafted jewelry and tri stat glyphs (let's face it you will make blue jewellery - purple at a push).

    Sure, 31k isn't very impressive. But the challenge here was really to prove that a hybrid can break 30k. Mission achieved.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Kolzki wrote: »
    Here's something I was playing with on the pts at the end of last summer getting almost 31k on a dummy.


    Sure, 31k isn't very impressive. But the challenge here was really to prove that a hybrid can break 30k. Mission achieved.

    Well, nice work! But this results mostly show that you can push 30k stamdps with "non-meta" gear rather then hybrid viability.. because 85% of damage is from stamina department.
    Edited by MartiniDaniels on February 26, 2019 8:19PM
  • Kolzki
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    Kolzki wrote: »
    Here's something I was playing with on the pts at the end of last summer getting almost 31k on a dummy.


    Sure, 31k isn't very impressive. But the challenge here was really to prove that a hybrid can break 30k. Mission achieved.

    Well, nice work! But this results mostly show that you can push 30k stamdps with "non-meta" gear rather then hybrid viability.. because 85% of damage is from stamina department.

    Thanks! But I count 34.4% flame/magic damage to 57% stamina/poison on that screen shot without scrolling down on the parse (I don't have it saved in cmx). I doubt that any build is going to get a 50/50 split, but the stats are balanced at least.

    I wasn't suggesting that a hybrid is viable, just that it's possible to hit higher dps than the 20 to 25k range that people seem to quote.

    And I assure you I can hit much higher that 31k dps on non-meta gear. Maybe even 32 ;)
  • dangutang
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    Kolzki, that's awesome! I like the DW/bow combo with it. Maelstrom bow endless hail is great, and I just hate having to refresh blockade on the back bar. And it looks like you're using all the cool DK class skills I'd want to use. Absolutely knocked it out of the park.

    Martini, adding up the numbers I got a little over 13k damage from stam abilities (endless hail, caltrops, claw, breath, poison injection, trap). Not sure how you're getting 85%. And even if that number was correct, it'd still be a hybrid. Mixes mag and stam abilities to do damage, and has comparable levels of mag and stam. And it broke 30k. Just give credit where it's due without moving the goalpost.

    Great job, Kolzki!

    Very interested to see any others people might have! Once I have some time I'm going to muck around with my dunmer dk tank and see how much dps I can get using purple gear and trash pots ;)
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