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Oberstein
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Just found out that account got 3 race and name change token. You have my gratitude for doing this.
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History, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.
  • Feanor
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    And yet there are people who still complain. It’s a bit sad really.
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • AbysmalGhul
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    Feanor wrote: »
    And yet there are people who still complain. It’s a bit sad really.

    Yes it is
  • Vyvrhel
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    Feanor wrote: »
    And yet there are people who still complain. It’s a bit sad really.

    The reason is that without "Any race, any alliance" the token does not really work. At all.
  • MarrazzMist
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  • Feanor
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    Vyvrhel wrote: »
    Feanor wrote: »
    And yet there are people who still complain. It’s a bit sad really.

    The reason is that without "Any race, any alliance" the token does not really work. At all.

    It does. Just not with all the other alliance races. Let’s not repeat the other thread though. This one here is to be grateful ZOS has increased the number of tokens from initially one to three and included name change tokens too. They didn’t have to do that at all.

    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • r34lian
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    Those meta slaves lul will always whine no matter what!!
    2000 CP • 18 Maxed Characters • 6 Altmers • 7 Redguards • Necromancer Orc • Warden Dunmer • DK Nord • DK Imperial • Templar Breton
  • Vyvrhel
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    Feanor wrote: »
    It does. Just not with all the other alliance races.

    Well and that's the point. Thinking about it, the two possible changes without Any race any alliance might be Nord - Argonian and Bosmer - Khajiit, but that's it.
    Note that I am not whining - I am just giving an explanation. I would possibly only change my 30 lvl Dunmer magdk into Breton, if it worked, but this is not an issue as I can change her from magicka into stamina. Others, though, might have a problem with this.
  • Vyvrhel
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    Those meta slaves lul will always whine no matter what!!

    Nobody but a meta slave would want to change the race anyway, right? But I happily admit I am a proud meta slave and a lousy player, too.
  • Feanor
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    Vyvrhel wrote: »
    Feanor wrote: »
    It does. Just not with all the other alliance races.

    Well and that's the point. Thinking about it, the two possible changes without Any race any alliance might be Nord - Argonian and Bosmer - Khajiit, but that's it.
    Note that I am not whining - I am just giving an explanation. I would possibly only change my 30 lvl Dunmer magdk into Breton, if it worked, but this is not an issue as I can change her from magicka into stamina. Others, though, might have a problem with this.

    No it’s not. It’s not a “change into a race you like” or “change into a meta race” token. To anyone with a basic understanding how the game is set up it is crystal clear that the alliance restrictions apply. Just like with the token you actually can buy.

    Could they add a better disclaimer? Sure. I think you’re allowed to assume a certain measure of familiarity with the game and some intelligence though.
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • mairwen85
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    Wait... what?! A positive thread about race change tokens?

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  • Vapirko
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    I agree it was really nice. They could have done nothing at all and that would have been entirely justified as no race was changed so much as to not be viable for what it’s was role prior to this patch.
    Edited by Vapirko on February 26, 2019 1:14PM
  • Vyvrhel
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    Feanor wrote: »
    I think you’re allowed to assume a certain measure of familiarity with the game and some intelligence though.

    I have a no prob to admit that - since I never considered race change before - I have no "certain measure of familiarity with the game" in this matter. And, obviously, I am not alone. So, while anyone might be allowed to assume anything, it can lead to all sorts of misunderstanding, as in this case.
  • Feanor
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    Vyvrhel wrote: »
    Feanor wrote: »
    I think you’re allowed to assume a certain measure of familiarity with the game and some intelligence though.

    I have a no prob to admit that - since I never considered race change before - I have no "certain measure of familiarity with the game" in this matter. And, obviously, I am not alone. So, while anyone might be allowed to assume anything, it can lead to all sorts of misunderstanding, as in this case.

    Well, if a race change didn’t occur to you before, it’s nothing to lose your sleep over. The issue is people read that race X is now 1.47% better on a parse than class Y and think they absolutely need a race change now.

    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • kmcaj
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    thanks for free tokens attached to cash grab to use them as name implies. very generous
  • Oakenaxe
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    We should indeed be grateful, we only won in this situation. So, thank you!

    But I also agree that there could be a way to change your Alliance. I hope they make it viable one day.
    a.k.a. Leo
    non-native English speaker
    200-300 ping and low fps player
  • Beardimus
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    Thanks zos, as someone that doesn't need them its cool that you did this. Shame entitlement is so rife people still moaning.
    Xbox One | EU | EP
    Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
    Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
    1st Emperor of Ravenwatch
    Alts - - for the Lolz
    Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
    Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
    Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master

    Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
    Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
    Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders

    Xbox One | NA | EP
    Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
    Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
    Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
    Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach
  • FleetwoodSmack
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    Feanor wrote: »
    Vyvrhel wrote: »
    Feanor wrote: »
    I think you’re allowed to assume a certain measure of familiarity with the game and some intelligence though.

    I have a no prob to admit that - since I never considered race change before - I have no "certain measure of familiarity with the game" in this matter. And, obviously, I am not alone. So, while anyone might be allowed to assume anything, it can lead to all sorts of misunderstanding, as in this case.

    Well, if a race change didn’t occur to you before, it’s nothing to lose your sleep over. The issue is people read that race X is now 1.47% better on a parse than class Y and think they absolutely need a race change now.

    ^This. I didn't have to change any but one character's race. Not because of the meta, but because my playstyle's changed drastically since I last played her. And now I can play her again! And by the time Elsweyr comes out, I'll have two character slots!
    Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!
  • Orticia
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    Loved the free tokens. Changed my altmer sorcerer into .... an altmer sorcerer. Freeing his name and look for my future necromancer and making them distinct.
  • shredingmetal41
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    Thank you for the tokens. My Nord assassin now has a much more Nordic name
  • VaranisArano
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    As someone who's characters all have lore-friendly names that are appropriate for their race, I'm very glad ZOS listened and added the Name Change tokens.
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