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Any Dummers like the changes?
Castagere
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Wondering how they are because of the magic and stamina buffs and weapon and spell damage buffs?
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I liked them.
I have a couple of Dunmer stamina characters which saw a buff from it, and I think only my MagDK really felt any loss from it.
There are better choices if you want to really min/max but I don't feel my characters are overly changed/screwed.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dunmer changes are okay, my dps even increased slightly, though orc is so good that no point to switch dunmer from magicka to stamina.0 -
kypranb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭My Magblade changed over from an Argonian with this update. I saw these changes:
- Stamina increased from 9k to 17k, I also changed over from Magicka enchants and Arcane jewelry traits to Prismatic/Triune.
- Max Health increased from 18.4k to 19.7k
- Max Magicka stayed about the same.
- Damage per cast on Swallow Soul jumped up 600.
Overall, this was a great change to my build. I now have flexibility to roll dodge and break free much more often.
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Colecovision✭✭✭✭✭
✭I suck so bad with mag and I'm middle class for stam. Happy to ditch bsw for automaton.0 -
Nerouyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Dunmer changes I like. It's the race I'm now strongly leaning towards for my main.3 -
Kalle_Demos✭✭✭✭✭No.
"If I am to be Queen, I must look fear in the face and conquer it. How can I ask my people to have faith in me if I don't have faith in myself?" - Queen Ayrenn7 -
Yes, because now Dunmer can be any damage dealer rather than just MagickaDK if they want to actually benefit from the majority of their racials.1
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Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Could be fun for hybrids or flopping between stamina and Magicka DPS. It's acceptable.2 -
Matthros✭✭✭I like the change for my two Stam dark elves. Gained about 1k Stam and 300+ weapon damage for both.3 -
ListerJMC✭✭✭✭✭
✭I actually really like them, even though I think my mag DK would be better off as a Breton now and I understand the frustration given that's where Dunmer had the biggest edge pre-patch.
The spell damage allows for more freedom than elemental damage and buffs heals, and the ability to go between Magicka and stamina without losing stats is really nice. Less fire damage and burning immunity is a good plus as well as there is a lot of it.Edited by ListerJMC on February 26, 2019 2:22AMPC NA & EU || Mammoth Guilds - Victory or Valhalla || Altmer sorcerer main
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Dunmer changes are okay, my dps even increased slightly, though orc is so good that no point to switch dunmer from magicka to stamina.
FFS. Honestly Dunmer is so close to Orc, plus you can go Vampire so you’re looking at only 125 less stamina and a very good amount of extra sustain. If you can produce a significant amount of extra DPS on an Orc vs a Dunmer then I’d love to see those parses. @ me when you do it.
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Castagere✭✭✭✭✭
✭If anyone is running a hybrid could you post info on how you spend your attributes and CP, please?0 -
StormChaser3000✭✭✭✭✭
✭I made a dunmer-magden alt initially, so these changes are very good for her.0 -
itscompton✭✭✭✭✭
✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Dunmer changes are okay, my dps even increased slightly, though orc is so good that no point to switch dunmer from magicka to stamina.
FFS. Honestly Dunmer is so close to Orc, plus you can go Vampire so you’re looking at only 125 less stamina and a very good amount of extra sustain. If you can produce a significant amount of extra DPS on an Orc vs a Dunmer then I’d love to see those parses. @ me when you do it.
Isn't the amount of extra fire resistance only equal to around 4% though? Considering stage 4 Vamp takes 25% extra fire damage that doesn't seem like a really huge selling point.0 -
Intextio✭✭✭itscompton wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Dunmer changes are okay, my dps even increased slightly, though orc is so good that no point to switch dunmer from magicka to stamina.
FFS. Honestly Dunmer is so close to Orc, plus you can go Vampire so you’re looking at only 125 less stamina and a very good amount of extra sustain. If you can produce a significant amount of extra DPS on an Orc vs a Dunmer then I’d love to see those parses. @ me when you do it.
Isn't the amount of extra fire resistance only equal to around 4% though? Considering stage 4 Vamp takes 25% extra fire damage that doesn't seem like a really huge selling point.
The fact that you are immune from burning as a vamp is pretty good.5 -
merpins✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Vampire dunmer = Good.
Stamina dunmer = decent
Magicka DPS dunmer = worse altmer.1 -
Austinseph1✭✭✭✭✭My Magdk has suffered very slightly in the mag pool but honestly...more stam for dodge and block is a nice trade off. Hard to complain unless you are a min/max player0
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✭Changed Imperial Magicka Templar to Dunmer Magicka Templar for DPS (a Vampire) and got much better results.
But a magicka Imperial, am I right? And a Templar, am I right? LOL /s
At least now I feel comfortable doing normal trials.
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✭✭✭✭MovesLikeJaguar wrote: »Vampire dunmer = Good.
Stamina dunmer = decent
Magicka DPS dunmer = worse altmer.
Wut? Effectively 150 less mag isnt something to worry about. After all you didnt also call them worse orcs.
I'm a bit sad about the elemental dmg changes but the overall gained build freedom makes more than up for it. Generic but very good race. I profit from it on my stam toons so no reason to complain for me.
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✭✭✭✭✭Totally love the changes and it felt really different playing my main as he's a stamina based one. On my magicka ones it's positive too but not that much changed really with racials, most new benefits came from updated destro passive and cp scaling.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭itscompton wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Dunmer changes are okay, my dps even increased slightly, though orc is so good that no point to switch dunmer from magicka to stamina.
FFS. Honestly Dunmer is so close to Orc, plus you can go Vampire so you’re looking at only 125 less stamina and a very good amount of extra sustain. If you can produce a significant amount of extra DPS on an Orc vs a Dunmer then I’d love to see those parses. @ me when you do it.
Isn't the amount of extra fire resistance only equal to around 4% though? Considering stage 4 Vamp takes 25% extra fire damage that doesn't seem like a really huge selling point.
Right but you only need stage 2 for the recovery. It is 100% viable. 3 of my 6 toons are now dunmer vamps lol. The extra mag or Stam is so good for any spec and it’s really awesome to be able to change specs instead of leveling a whole new toon. It’s just stupid that people are still harping on the whole Orc OP no questions asked thing. Are they strong? Yes. But are they BiS for every build no questions asked? Absolutely not and they already been shown to parse lower on hard to sustain classes like stamina sorc where Bosmers and Redguards come out on top.Edited by Vapirko on February 26, 2019 7:25AM0 -
Kalante✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dummers are the best. You can switch from stam and magicka , turn them into vamps due to fire resistance and gain damage reduction and recovery, also you can pvp with them thanks to the free 256 weapon damage for burst. Why would anyone pick any other race? I love these new race changes they are so ridicolously dumb op. I also saw fengrush the other day salivating over his favorite race becoming so op compared to all the other inferior races. WowoowowowEdited by Kalante on February 26, 2019 7:47AM0 -
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✭✭✭Well, I didn't lose magicka, have roughly the same ammount, and have more mag damage than before so... yes, like'em.1 -
hakan✭✭✭✭✭Finally some lore based racials Dunmer Stamblade from start and ive got my reward now. Extra flat magicka is much better. 0
