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Where is discount on skill/attributes reset?
MartiniDaniels
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With such global changes, it's obvious that we all need to do adjustments to our skill points and attributes, ZOS must provide usual discount as 1 gold per skill point or attribute.
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Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wasn't this patch almost exclusively focused on race changes (that are all refunded anyway)? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there very few changes to other skills in the game? Why would we need this?5 -
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✭✭✭✭What skill changes has there been?
Boundless storm/hurricane got cheaper.
Implosion got reworked.
The other morph of dark flare got better.
Inner fire/ trapping webs got a range reduction.
Time stop got cost increase.
Nothing else changed did it? Hardly sweeping. I'm assuming you get the old racial passive ones back if you change raceEdited by Brrrofski on February 25, 2019 4:28PM1 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wasn't this patch almost exclusively focused on race changes (that are all refunded anyway)? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there very few changes to other skills in the game? Why would we need this?
For attributes this is obvious because their values changed and classes who doesn't put everything in one resource pool, i.e tanks and PVP require adjustment.
Second, bosmer is no longer stealthy so all legerdemain/thief guild skill points need to be refunded. Why I should pay 15k gold to do this i don't understand.1 -
Imryll✭✭✭✭✭Even if a skill didn't change, racial changes like lost/gained regen may change morph choices. Do you want the morph that refunds resources or the one that hits harder? Should I make my dunmer magplar a stamplar now? Racial changes don't occur in isolation.8 -
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✭✭Due to the enchantment changes I need to swap over some skill points to destruction staff in order to Ice tank I was hoping for a discount.1 -
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✭✭We never got this for Murkmire, and they changed plenty of skills in that update. We are overdue.PS5 EU.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Wasn't this patch almost exclusively focused on race changes (that are all refunded anyway)? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there very few changes to other skills in the game? Why would we need this?
For attributes this is obvious because their values changed and classes who doesn't put everything in one resource pool, i.e tanks and PVP require adjustment.
Second, bosmer is no longer stealthy so all legerdemain/thief guild skill points need to be refunded. Why I should pay 15k gold to do this i don't understand.
Ah, the first point is fair. Personally, I would never consider making my existing characters suddenly go transracial, so it's not something I even think about.
As for bosmer, I would have to disagree. A sneaky character is going to invest in legerdemain and thieves guild anyway, regardless of whether or not they have a stealth detection radius reduction built into their race. I mean, the "bosmer is no longer stealthy" only becomes true if you remove all those other skill points from the character. XD0 -
Imryll✭✭✭✭✭It seems odd to offer free race changes to those who want to pursue best in slot, but not offer equivalent support to those willing to try and adapt in place ...2
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✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Wasn't this patch almost exclusively focused on race changes (that are all refunded anyway)? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there very few changes to other skills in the game? Why would we need this?
For attributes this is obvious because their values changed and classes who doesn't put everything in one resource pool, i.e tanks and PVP require adjustment.
Second, bosmer is no longer stealthy so all legerdemain/thief guild skill points need to be refunded. Why I should pay 15k gold to do this i don't understand.
Ah, the first point is fair. Personally, I would never consider making my existing characters suddenly go transracial, so it's not something I even think about.
As for bosmer, I would have to disagree. A sneaky character is going to invest in legerdemain and thieves guild anyway, regardless of whether or not they have a stealth detection radius reduction built into their race. I mean, the "bosmer is no longer stealthy" only becomes true if you remove all those other skill points from the character. XD
Well, I have optimized routes and habits where and from who i may steal without being caught, now this routes are only possible on khajiit, no point to use bosmer as a thief.0 -
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✭The whole point of crapping all over dw was to bring it down to 2h. Now it's 16k gold to really go all in and do it.
My Dunmer fire mage would like to be a stam sorc. They closed one door and opened another, but they add a cover charge. Not cool.
Some other reasons that might be: You lost your argonian tank and want to go healer. Your altmer magblade got hit and you want to roll around like a monkey and switch to bossmer. You are Khajiit and would rather be a subpar Mag dps instead of a subpar stam dps.
Why make these changes and not encourage people to explore it?2