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Keep 2H Competitive - Spears with Crit Bonus
twing1_
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TL;DR Spears should be added to the game as a 2H weapon that grants critical chance (similar to dual daggers) to help bridge the gap between DW and 2H in endgame PvE viability.
For endgame PvE content, the vast majority of builds prefer dual wield over 2 handed weapons because they offer higher dps. A large part of this is because dual wielding daggers gives you a bonus to critical chance.
Currently, there is no 2H weapon that grants you a similar bonus to critical chance.
Adding a 2H weapon that grants a bonus to critical chance would only help to bridge the gap between these two weapon types and make the 2H skill tree more competitive for endgame PvE content.
Given the abundance of NPC characters that use spears in this game, I feel it would be quite fitting to introduce this weapon as an option for the player base to use under the 2H skill tree that grants a bonus to critical chance.
The introduction of spears would require very little effort on ZOS's part, as it would not require a new skill tree or moveset. They already have animations for spear use too, as evidenced by the NPC characters that use it. It would simply require the addition of a new type of item under the existing 2H skill line, and a slight alteration to the "heavy weapons" passive skill (the likes of which is already available to be copy pasted from the DW skill line). That's it.
For endgame PvE content, the vast majority of builds prefer dual wield over 2 handed weapons because they offer higher dps. A large part of this is because dual wielding daggers gives you a bonus to critical chance.
Currently, there is no 2H weapon that grants you a similar bonus to critical chance.
Adding a 2H weapon that grants a bonus to critical chance would only help to bridge the gap between these two weapon types and make the 2H skill tree more competitive for endgame PvE content.
Given the abundance of NPC characters that use spears in this game, I feel it would be quite fitting to introduce this weapon as an option for the player base to use under the 2H skill tree that grants a bonus to critical chance.
The introduction of spears would require very little effort on ZOS's part, as it would not require a new skill tree or moveset. They already have animations for spear use too, as evidenced by the NPC characters that use it. It would simply require the addition of a new type of item under the existing 2H skill line, and a slight alteration to the "heavy weapons" passive skill (the likes of which is already available to be copy pasted from the DW skill line). That's it.
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Imryll✭✭✭✭✭Would you advocate for a crit-granting magicka weapon as well, or do you see crit fun as stam only?1 -
Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Spears would be fun to play with, but I am biased was reading a novel about spear hero other day.0 -
twing1_✭✭✭✭Would you advocate for a crit-granting magicka weapon as well, or do you see crit fun as stam only?
I'd advocate for a 1h magicka weapon.
But as for the stam weapons bonuses to bleed/crit/damage done/penetration, no I don't think magicka should have equivalents of these. This is because magicka already has elemental status effects (burning/concussed/chilled).
This is one of the core differences between the two classes of weapons, stamina and magicka. Magicka weapons not getting these bonuses is the price of their bonuses to elemental effects.
I also firmly believe the introduction of a new weapon of any type would open the door for ZOS to create more new weapons, so the introduction of a spear would only benefit players seeking magicka weapon variety as well. Given the relatively small amount of effort that would be required of ZOS to implement spears into the game, I figured this would be a good starting point.Edited by twing1_ on February 23, 2019 4:56PM1 -
Gravord✭✭✭✭✭Id be against it. Just because id prefer to see spears added as a tank option for 1h (with bonuses for each different mainhand to give tanks option aswell) and Halberds added as 2h variant of a spear.1 -
Girl_Number8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭We already see them with tempys. Though maybe whips but I guess was reading a different novel then Tasear.
I honestly think another class would be nice, as the skills become weapons all ready with their nifty animations.0 -
Holycannoli✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Spear as a 2-handed weapon wouldn't really work because of the skill animations. Uppercut and Executioner would look awkward at best with a spear. Critical Charge would look great though.
Spear would work best as it's own weapon line. They have increased reach and need unique animations. But do we want an entire weapon line dedicated to just spears?2 -
twing1_✭✭✭✭Holycannoli wrote: »Spear as a 2-handed weapon wouldn't really work because of the skill animations. Uppercut and Executioner would look awkward at best with a spear. Critical Charge would look great though.
Spear would work best as it's own weapon line. They have increased reach and need unique animations. But do we want an entire weapon line dedicated to just spears?
Something tells me ZOS isn't too worried about this, seeing as flurry (dw skill) with axes doesn't make much sense but is still entirely possible in the game.
Additionally, as mentioned in the original post, they already have spear animations saved in their files somewhere, evidenced by NPC characters using them.0