Why [snip] should Zos reimburse any item that wasn’t lost due to a bug, please stop begging them to hold your hand.

[Edit for baiting.]

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

zParallaxz wrote: »

This is a gawd damn M rated game for adults, of course there will be people scamming you in trades, mail, and guild bank robbing. To be honest it adds more immersion, you realize know that you have a small chance of being finessed in game by a real person. Hell its probably the closest thing to the justice system we deserve.

Found the scammer.

Actually I’ve scammed probably two times in the entirety of this game since I started back in v14 days. One instance was accidental as I c.o.d someone a willpower sword back when it was selling high, I sent him the wrong trait by accident but he already sent me the money for the first one. The second instance was good ol citrine after someone showed me it. I’ve been scammed before to, it only taught me to be wiser. I feel it adds a GTA aspect to this game.

zParallaxz wrote: »

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

zParallaxz wrote: »

This is a gawd damn M rated game for adults, of course there will be people scamming you in trades, mail, and guild bank robbing. To be honest it adds more immersion, you realize know that you have a small chance of being finessed in game by a real person. Hell its probably the closest thing to the justice system we deserve.

Found the scammer.

Actually I’ve scammed probably two times in the entirety of this game since I started back in v14 days. One instance was accidental as I c.o.d someone a willpower sword back when it was selling high, I sent him the wrong trait by accident but he already sent me the money for the first one. The second instance was good ol citrine after someone showed me it. I’ve been scammed before to, it only taught me to be wiser. I feel it adds a GTA aspect to this game.

That's your personal preference, and also your personal flaw. Even in games like EVE, scammers are a minority, as most people seem to be able to get ahead without resorting to underhanded and low-brow tactics. If you can't earn it on your own, you don't deserve it, and you sure as hell aren't taking it from people who can and have.

Nobody wants to be around someone like that, and it speaks to more than just your attitude towards a video game, when that is your default approach to any given situation.

zParallaxz wrote: »

I’m not saying everyone should scam, what I’m saying is after sharing a guild bank and giving people access to it. Why should Zos be responsible for what happens if someone decides to go sicko mode and steal. Have some common sense, not every one you play with is going to do good the entirety of the game. You complaining to Zos about lost items to scamming is like you killing innocent in town and being chased by guards till you run out of town. Where the hell are the consequences.

No, what you're saying is scamming should be condoned because it's in the spirit of the game, through some twisted view and mindset. Advocating, as well as admitting to doing it yourself, is not taking the high road; You're not doing yourself any favors.

Also, I don't give out personal information to randos, especially dishonest types, so no, I'm not telling you my age.

I honestly don’t know why this game is rated M.

Found the scammer, and also the anti-social guy who has never been part of a large, well-organized guild. The work must be shared, there is simply too much of it to be done by one person. In a large trade guild, the guild bank gets full and must be cleared out multiple times per day because of donations. These donations are auctioned off to pay for the trader. One person simply cannot do all the work in those circumstances, it is asking too much. Any GM who did that for any length of time would burn out. In one guild I am in, it is a real life couple who share the responsibilities, so that works well. In another large guild, there are a few trusted officers. One of them could decide tomorrow to take it all and run. The system as designed by ZOS doesn't give people adequate tools to safeguard against scammers. For instance, COD mails should not just have a little icon of the item. Too many items look identical. The popup should list what you are getting. A simple design tweak. Guild bank access could have limits, maybe only taking items but not gold. Simple things that would make it much easier for people to guard against scammers. Without ZOS doing this, they are condoning scammers even though they deny it.

zParallaxz wrote: »

I admitted I scammed in game to show that yes, average people do it. Just like how people go to pvp to kill other people which is morally wrong, how can you judge someone for scamming another person. Back on topic, I don’t condone scamming nor do I care if you have been scammed. It’s not Zos’s job to reimburse your “stolen” items.

Ummm...no.
Average people don't take advantage of other people.
Comparing to PVP shows your ignorance of...well...functioning society. PVP is like entering a contract, anyone who decides to PVP knows they will probably be killed. That isn't morally wrong.

What you have done is not only morally wrong, but bragging about it is reprehensible.

You made the topic, crowing to defend your anti-social behavior. ALL of your anti-social behavior is on topic.
I hope everyone who sees your name kicks you from their guilds.

If you're not a scammer... what do you care if other players report scams to ZOS in the hope of reimbursement? Why do you even care? If you like the fact there are scammers in-game because it makes the game feel edgier to you... why don't you post about how cool it was when you got scammed?