Necromancer class should be disease damage based

Jabassa · February 2019

Title says it all, and it makes perfect sense. I'm raising the dead, it's a class of pestilence, rotten flesh, and maggots. Frost goes to warden, shock goes to sorc, dk holds down fire, nightblade is blood magic all of which make sense. It just seems natural

Revokus · February 2019

It will probably be a mix of magic damage for magicka and disease for stamina. The reason is disease cp star is for stamina characters and magic for magicka. It would be cool tough if Necromancers get both minor and major defile.

Jabassa · February 2019

I'd personally like to see a disease or pestilence staff. As of now, you have a point about the cp star, but if we get a cp rework like they mentioned, that would be awesome

psychotic13 · February 2019

Youre a bit off,

MagDK - Fire
StamDK - Poison

Magblade - Magic
Stamblade - Disease

MagSorc - Shock
Stamsorc - physical

Magwarden - frost
Stamden - physical? (

Magplar - magic
Stamplar - phsyical

Personally think they should add another stam based element or effect whatever you want to call it.

Mag has frost/fire/shock
Stam has poison/Disease

Now, stam Necro might very well have disease, too early to say.

Koolio · February 2019

It should be a Stam based class with a few magicka morphs for a change.

Ender1310 · February 2019

Warden has poison (shalks)
All Stam classes use poison as a huge part of their dots. (Poison arrow).

I would like to see another element for magic and Stam added so mag night blade class skills aren’t so blah.

psychotic13 · February 2019

Koolio wrote: »

It should be a Stam based class with a few magicka morphs for a change.

Not going to happen, stamina has more weapon skills to rely on. Way its always been. My stamsorc been begging for some class damage skills or an ult.

Jabassa · February 2019

You guys are right, but at a glance the classes are built around the respective type of damage as I said. I'm also not making the comparison between mag/stam. I wasn't trying to go that deep

Chilly-McFreeze · February 2019

psychotic13 wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

It should be a Stam based class with a few magicka morphs for a change.

Not going to happen, stamina has more weapon skills to rely on. Way its always been. My stamsorc been begging for some class damage skills or an ult.

That's why some stamina classes don't feel particular unique. It doesn't do any good to have 4 weapons to choose from if you are are forced to rely mainly on them and not your class kit, no matter if stam sorc or stam dk. On NB I don't feel that burden. Not a good class design if you ask me.

BTW we're asking for more magickal weapons and more stamina class skills since years.

TheBonesXXX · February 2019

Templar is technically sun magic.

Disease and Poison are technically apart of nature magic.

Necromancers will probably be Soul/Death magic. Physical damage will always be code for Steel with coated weapons in either Poison or Disease.

Jabassa · February 2019

Koolio wrote: »

It should be a Stam based class with a few magicka morphs for a change.

I'd like to see that, but not in a necromancer. They have always been a magical class

Revokus · February 2019

Koolio wrote: »

It should be a Stam based class with a few magicka morphs for a change.

Maybe they would have called it death knight then. I’m sure there will be plenty of stamina morphs paired with stamina having more weapon skill lines than magicka. Necromancers are the missing light armor archetype in the character creation so they should be casters first.

MaxJrFTW · February 2019

I thought it would be. A bit disappointing that they're making it elemental dmg based.

Nerouyn · February 2019

Revokus wrote: »

It will probably be a mix of magic damage for magicka and disease for stamina.

They've shown elemental and the early concept art for a whole skill line is "elementalist".

https://alcasthq.com/eso-necromancer-class/

Imbue the dead with frost, fire, and lightning to bring ruin upon your enemies.

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

I thought it would be. A bit disappointing that they're making it elemental dmg based.

I can understand that point of view but don't share it.

Personally I strongly dislike fire, lightning and frost being divided between 3 classes. I played the single player games as an elementalist. Can't do that in ESO. The existing classes also buff damage for a single element so using a different element destruction staff is a nerf.

I'm not attracted to necromancers conceptually and didn't use that magic in Skyrim. I think I raised a few undead just to see it work. Then ignored it. It's not my thing. ESO's necromancers using elemental magic and a mix thereof is one of the reasons I'm at least considering them.

Mojmir · February 2019

Should be oblivion damage lol

Oakmontowls_ESO · February 2019

Nerouyn wrote: »

Revokus wrote: »

It will probably be a mix of magic damage for magicka and disease for stamina.

They've shown elemental and the early concept art for a whole skill line is "elementalist".

https://alcasthq.com/eso-necromancer-class/

Imbue the dead with frost, fire, and lightning to bring ruin upon your enemies.

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

I thought it would be. A bit disappointing that they're making it elemental dmg based.

I can understand that point of view but don't share it.

Personally I strongly dislike fire, lightning and frost being divided between 3 classes. I played the single player games as an elementalist. Can't do that in ESO. The existing classes also buff damage for a single element so using a different element destruction staff is a nerf.

I'm not attracted to necromancers conceptually and didn't use that magic in Skyrim. I think I raised a few undead just to see it work. Then ignored it. It's not my thing. ESO's necromancers using elemental magic and a mix thereof is one of the reasons I'm at least considering them.

The problem is that fire is the superior dps element. It gives a decent DoT, increases fire blockade damage, gets buffed by engulfing flames, and formerly buffed by dunmer racial passives.

Vaerth · February 2019

Jabassa wrote: »

Title says it all, and it makes perfect sense. I'm raising the dead, it's a class of pestilence, rotten flesh, and maggots. Frost goes to warden, shock goes to sorc, dk holds down fire, nightblade is blood magic all of which make sense. It just seems natural

NB Stamina has Disease damage

Holycannoli · February 2019

I just want corpse explosion

Faulgor · February 2019

psychotic13 wrote: »

Personally think they should add another stam based element or effect whatever you want to call it.

Well there's also Bleed, which is fitting for Necromancers as well.

Red_Feather · February 2019

Yeah make it all Oblivion damage.

Necromancers in guild wars did shadow magic which did exactly what the tool tip said it did. No damage calculations involved at all.

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Shadow_damage

MLGProPlayer · February 2019

psychotic13 wrote: »

Youre a bit off,

MagDK - Fire
StamDK - Poison

Magblade - Magic
Stamblade - Disease

MagSorc - Shock
Stamsorc - physical

Magwarden - frost
Stamden - physical? (

Magplar - magic
Stamplar - phsyical

Personally think they should add another stam based element or effect whatever you want to call it.

Mag has frost/fire/shock
Stam has poison/Disease

Now, stam Necro might very well have disease, too early to say.

Warden only has 1 frost damage ability (2 if you count the ult). I wouldn't call that a DPS element. It's pretty much exclusively used for tanking. Warden's primary damage type is magic.

Nerouyn · February 2019

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

The problem is that fire is the superior dps element. It gives a decent DoT, increases fire blockade damage, gets buffed by engulfing flames, and formerly buffed by dunmer racial passives.

Not everyone is a dragonknight, obviously. But thanks for proving my point.

Lightning staff gets an aoe boost and buffed by sorc energized and implosion.

Frost staff gets a damage boost from warden piercing cold.

If any of those classes choose to wield a non-class destruction staff they are missing out on those bonuses.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Warden only has 1 frost damage ability (2 if you count the ult).

Sadly true.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

It's pretty much exclusively used for tanking. Warden's primary damage type is magic.

I disagree. It also has a strong control element which can indirectly boost DPS.

A huge proportion of a magicka warden's damage comes from a single ability - Deep Fissure. High damage + major breach. But it's a delayed effect column attack. Positioning is crucial.

One thing which helps immensely with positioning is your opponents being immobilized or slowed. Winter's Revenge + Ice Elemental Blockade cripples opponents and makes it much easier to line them up to be hit by Deep Fissure.

Jephry · February 2019

I miss my old school EQ necro and her awesome floating, scythe wielding pet...disease and poison dots with some great DD thrown in. Boil blood that snares and does a DoT for the win!

Holycannoli · February 2019

Jephry wrote: »

I miss my old school EQ necro and her awesome floating, scythe wielding pet...disease and poison dots with some great DD thrown in. Boil blood that snares and does a DoT for the win!

Those were fun times. I loved necromancer in EQ. Diablo 2 necromancer was fun too, and DAOC bonedancer (not necromancer ironically). But nothing felt quite like the EQ necromancer.

MatNov · April 2020

Totally agree with the poster; Necro should totally be disease based. It would be unique and relevant to the idea of the class. Poison and magic are not Necro based spells. Also, more disease staffs needed! Thank you Zenimax.

newtinmpls · April 2020

Oh my god, it's ME that notes this is a necro post?

Wow.

And I totally disagree; I think that Necromancer and Templar are two sides of the same coin.

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