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Bosmer Dodge roll. Love it or Hate it ?
Starlight_Knight
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Specifically the Dodge roll for penetration. I'm unsure about this, i thought a passive should be a passive not something you activate a skill for.
To me this feels like it should be on a 5 piece set bonus and its only useful in PVP
How do you guys feel. Love it or hate it.
To me this feels like it should be on a 5 piece set bonus and its only useful in PVP
How do you guys feel. Love it or hate it.
Bosmer Dodge roll. Love it or Hate it ? 97 votes
Love
19%
19 votes
Hate
65%
64 votes
Marmite
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14 votes
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DarkerDreams✭✭✭HateThere's already a couple 5 pc sets that give weapon damage after roll dodge. Hardly anyone uses them though for a reason....15 -
Starlight_Knight✭✭✭✭✭
✭HateDarkerDreams wrote: »There's already a couple 5 pc sets that give weapon damage after roll dodge. Hardly anyone uses them though for a reason....
Indeed, the whole thing to me makes no sense. i just cant see a use for it at all. i do pvp on a bosmer warden as well. and its still not going to be useful to me.5 -
ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LoveStarlight_Knight wrote: »Specifically the Dodge roll for penetration. I'm unsure about this, i thought a passive should be a passive not something you activate a skill for.
To me this feels like it should be on a 5 piece set bonus and its only useful in PVP
How do you guys feel. Love it or hate it.
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generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lovei cannot wait to watch all of the undersized characters dodge rolling like yoda INTO A CRIT CHARGE!!!!
hahahahahaa
it will be glorious!
(can't play...tears...in... my eyes!!!!!)
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✭✭✭✭✭MarmiteWell, I can't imagine ever actually using it, and I'm annoyed at the loss of the Stealth bonus (the only racial ability I ever really paid attention to), but it doesn't rise to the level of "hate".3 -
max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I dodge roll to avoid red circles not to activate buffs. Activating a penetration buff will be the last thing on my mind in a fight, pve or pvp.
If someone is planning on using it as part of their rotation they were already rolling around with a bow to get the speed bonus. If they were rolling around with a bow then they will be happy for the penetration. This passive only helps bow-gankers.
The only application is if a player was already doing the following:
1. Heavy attack or charged aim from stealth at maximum allowable distance to get the possible stun,
2. Roll to get speed to run away using Hasty Retreat (now stacking with this passive) and becoming immune to snares
3. Get off another heavy/charged bow attack to finish off. (Now with bonus penetration)
That’s it. If you weren’t already doing EXACTLY that, you won’t benefit. That means if you were doing 1 in pve but not 2 then you don’t benefit. If you were doing 1 and 2 but not able to do 3, then no benefit. A player has to do all 3 steps on a regular basis to justify it.
It doesn’t help in pve because when you roll out of red you are already fast enough (with hasty retreat) to get out of anything else, 1 race being even faster is not going to make them “must haves” for pve content. When you are dodging mechanics, 6 seconds is not enough to get another shot off in the harder boss fights.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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Unfadingsilence✭✭✭✭✭
✭LoveLove it after testing it out I'm truly loving my new 40k max Stam 3k recovery 5k WD and 20k penetration NB thank you ZOS!!1 -
Ertosi✭✭✭✭✭
✭HateThey stole my bosmers sneaking ability so I hate all of the rest of the bosmer changes. Even if they changed bosmers to be crazy OP compared to all other races, without bosmer stealth I'd still hate the changes. Taking a way such an iconic ability 5 years in is an awful move and is disrespectful to both the game and its players.PC NA @Ertosi♠♦ My Team ♥♣
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No new crafting or game systems for 2019? "Season of the Dragon" would be better named "The Year of no New Major Features"
https://i.imgur.com/TPscgS9.jpg to see major features of the last few years compared.
https://i.imgur.com/X8qY0gP.jpg to see a detailed comparison of this year's Q1 to the last two Q1s.
https://i.imgur.com/4z71cK8.jpg to see a detailed comparison of each years' first two quarters combined.
https://i.imgur.com/jrHe5h8.jpg to see a projected comparison of the full years and what 2019's Q4 will need to catch up.
Unsubbed January 15th, 2019 due to the lack of any new substantial features shown to be coming in 2019.8 -
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✭HateIt's almost like they took the Way of the Air set, switched out the weapon and spell damage for penetration and VOILA, there's your new perfectly balanced Bosmer passives because hunters...
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✭✭✭LoveUnfadingsilence wrote: »Love it after testing it out I'm truly loving my new 40k max Stam 3k recovery 5k WD and 20k penetration NB thank you ZOS!!
Yeapers, they are nice little cannibals now.generalmyrick wrote: »i cannot wait to watch all of the undersized characters dodge rolling like yoda INTO A CRIT CHARGE!!!!
hahahahahaa
it will be glorious!
(can't play...tears...in... my eyes!!!!!)
ahahahaahaha
Thnx, you made me smile with this one.
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max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I wonder how people feel about it now that it’s on the live server#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
#OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
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""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom0 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭HateI don't feel it at all, like this passive doesn't exist (without bow or dodge roll sets).0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭HateThey stole my bosmers sneaking ability so I hate all of the rest of the bosmer changes. Even if they changed bosmers to be crazy OP compared to all other races, without bosmer stealth I'd still hate the changes. Taking a way such an iconic ability 5 years in is an awful move and is disrespectful to both the game and its players.
Not to mention anti-lore in a HUGE MAJOR way....0 -
Minnesinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭LoveLove of course. Though not a bosmer myself they are just so cute.
A is for Atronach.
B is for Bungler's Bane.
C is for Comberry.3 -
Razorback174✭✭✭✭✭HateSuch a niche and poorly thought-out passive. Extremely niche PvP at best.
Nothing like tying a marginal offensive bonus passive to a purely defensive maneuver. I'm sure all the DPS players will be rolling through dungeons now...
I'd be less ticked off at this passive if they didn't gut the stealth from Bosmer in the process. As they are, they are nothing but a shorter, more useless version of Redguards.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭HateNo points are going into this awful passive, and I have plenty to spare.Edited by BlueRaven on March 2, 2019 5:40AM0 -
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✭LoveI like it, my bosmer use Gryphon's set and backbar bow... And she is fast, REALLY fast ☺️1 -
Wildbloom✭✭✭✭LoveI've ended up liking the dodge roll speed-up. It feels faster than 10% to me...bug maybe? The penetration is alright, but hardly noticeable.
The only thing that bothers me is the removal of the stealth bonus in favor of the far-weaker and extremely situational stealth detect. The argument has been beaten into the ground by now, as anyone browsing the forums will notice, but the point that it was a terrible move still stands."Hello, Skellington Pal! How are you today? Bone dry, you say? I’d offer you a glass of water, but it’d all fall through! I need more coffee."
ZOS_GinaBruno, patch 5.0.1 PTS patch notes, 4/22/20193 -
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✭HateIf you don't understand the rationale behind all the moves of these racial passives, this behind-the-scenes video should help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_2Ky_nU2ys 4 -
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✭HateYou guys know I’m on your side #FightForYourRite
But yeah this passive is nuts in PVP. So good, my Bosmer StamDK is loving it. It’s basically the Steed Mundas stone or 2 pieces of Swift jewelry for free...
But I still hate that Bosmer lost stealth and the devs used this passive to justify that.
Edited by Left4Daud on March 2, 2019 7:10AM3
