Zos ignoring its player base and feedback on bugs and performance or qol has made players including me unhappy with zos management

Outfit slots being character bound and zos surfing on the “it s not clear in the description” to make money is borderline if not plain scams

Most of us have zero trust in zos

Their latest message to say they will communicate more has been the last one from zos in a while, that is just how bad they are

I believe zos being the game master should make a list of known bug being worked on with a rough timetable

Also monthly communication to share their vision and coming changes

yes some people will get angry at some changes but i believe explanations would go a long way

One thing I think we could do to help is to try and give more constructive answers to topics, and if you can't think of anything useful to say just don't reply.

On several occasions I've seen a new or inexperienced player ask a "stupid" question or post a "stupid" suggestion and get more than a page of stupid answers - ranging from people spamming gifs to sarcastic or joke answers that don't actually help at all and by the time anyone tries to actually answer the topic has been derailed or the accurate replies are almost impossible to pick out of the spam. And It's very easy for that kind of topic to turn nasty, all it takes is one or two people taking the jokes too far.

I realise we're all here to kill time, and it might be mildly amusing for the people posting, but I think it would make the forum a much nicer place if people could post without risk of being mocked for not already being fully up to date and knowledgeable about the game and for not conforming to current popular opinions.

Most people don't usually have a reason to post on a forum, if they don't want to post a problematic topic, like some issue in the game or an issue with the game.
While minor issues are resolved, major issues persist.

On the other hand, people don't usually answer such posts, if they don't have a solution or opinion. So, since 99% of people don't have a solution, it is well known that many of us have opinions. And, well, there is something toxic about multiple opinions clashing haphazardly in mildly regulated environment.

Is toxicity even a problem? Is anyone here really suffering from the "evil" community?

The forums used to be worse than they are now. They're rainbows and sunshine compared to what they were a couple of years ago.

For what I’ve seen it’s mainly people who cannot articulate their counter argument in a civilised way and it’s more important to score points against someone else rather than being an adult. People like to feel superior & will do what’s necessary to feel so.

To improve? Learn to take criticism and/or better defend your points in an discussion. It’s a game we all love and there’s obviously going to be different opinions on how to make it better, listen to each other and explain your points clearly and minus the toxicity, will help the game more in the long run.

Do note this isn’t what I feel about everyone, I’ve seen some amazing people articulate their points beautifully ❤️

I think, like some others pointed out, its consists of fault from both the community and ZOS.
On ZOS's behalf, its poor communication. I have tried many times to give them the benefit of the doubt as they acknowledge and pledge to improve communication but when I see masses of threads on things like the recent perform plunge on EU servers go utterly ignored only to get wrist slapped by a mod for thread bumping!... well tbh that's very frustrating! I consider myself a measured person and I do view this as a just a game at the end of the day, but the 'Deafening Silence of ZOS' can sometimes be so pronounced that I find even my patience being tested.
On the communities side, I think a big issue is people's inability to show respect in an anonymous environment. Some people lack the maturity to see that when their complaints descend to just plain rudeness, it causes ZOS to just not respond. Also, some people feel they need a platform for recognition. So many times I see good threads on a topic with maybe 10 pages of relatively good dialogue only to be immediately followed by another thread with the exact same topic just that this person felt they needed their own platform for fear of not being heard. I think this effect of having multiple moaning threads on the same issue gives the sense of a larger scale of toxicity. Sometimes its difficult to see the 10 threads per day that contribute positive dialogue on the game because of the 100 threads from people all thinking that they have a unique and interesting take on why they believe ZOS has 'ruined the game' etc.

I've never seen toxic on these forums, there are some elitists who are up themselves but apart from that it's very friendly. If you want to see toxic go over to the csgo forums, you'll want to delete your internet after an hour on there.

"You can make some people happy all the time or all people happy some of the time, but you can't make all people happy all the time."

Are the forums really that "toxic" or is that just the way it sounds in your head when you read it?

Trancestor wrote: »

I think you're mistaking toxic with calling out ZOS for their constant BS

There are ways to call companies out on their BS without being toxic. Personal attacks, demands for people to lose jobs, telling people they're morons etc. are toxic ways of doing so.

Well, it isn't a matter of what the dev's do, as some people have suggested; it's a matter of regulating player reaction.

Now, I'm not saying people shouldn't voice their opinions. Bring it on. However, certain people take it to the next level and dominate the forums with their vitriol. Let's call it an abnormal degree of inflammatory behavior, with a history of inciting and perpetuating negativity.

It doesn't take long to figure out who those people are.

So, I suggest more stringent moderation. It's all well and good to remove a post, or lock down a thread, but when the root of the problem still exists..toxic behavior will flash up again. Warnings, a brief suspension, and then a time out, with a ban as the final resort.