DarkCloak-Magicka Nightblade "Bloodknight" PvP-Build

Torbschka · February 2019

Hey,

Ive seen those threads about mag nb recently and thought I would share my open world setup. Keep in mind that I do HATE cloak, I did choose mag nb mainly because I always like "bloodmagic" etc. - so I exclusively created this setup for dark cloak.

Furthermore, we all do know that snares are on eof the "major" problems for everyone, although magicka classes in general are hurt the most in my opinion. Secondly, I actually almost play non cp (besides proc set fiesta I like it).

Well, I like to keep things short, so here is the build:

5-2-0 light-heavy-medium, X=Choose what u like

5x Armor Master (Resto/Bow backbar, Chest, Legs, Shoes)
5x Trainee set (3x jewelry, gloves + belt)
1x WIllpower/Master Destro of your choice
2x Bloodspawn (or whatever u like the most)

Barsetup Destro:

Fear, Bow, SA, EW/Pulse, X - ulti: X

Barsetup Resto/Bow (We dont use any resto skills, so choose if u like the Speed more than the heavy attacks of resto)

Dark cloak, harness, entropy, shade, mistform ulti: X (Undo for me)

I do know that I dont have a siphoning ability backbar, u can ofc run mistform front and use siphoning ulti frontbar (or backbar if u dont wanna use undo) etc. - adjust it as u like.

Tristatfood
Mage Mundus
all tristat glyph

All jewelry are enchanted with mag recovery, though next patch (im Breton) Ill adjust that. If u can Play with lower mag sustain or playing CP-PvP, do what u like.

This build is pretty straight Forward, ofc synergy Comes from armor master (5%hp), entropy (8%hp), shadow ability (3%hp) and Trainee gear. The Goal was pretty much to push all 3 stats as much as possible to buff ur defenses (magicka+hp) and mobility (Stamina) - the cost of it is low spell damage, though u have pretty "high" magicka and because u are a nb have still "good" killing potential (light armor, merciless, infused glpyh front etc.).

Defense is pretty much keep ur shield up and heal if u need it and kite with shade into roll dodge into mist form, trotrotrol shade, troololol teabag those zergers and undo and repeat.
Before I write too much, if u have any questions about it just ask me here (I dont have a gameplay Video, im not into that too much). Ofc, adjust it as u wanted, I just wanted to share this to the mag nb community in this proc and snare meta how I deal with all of that.

Iskiab · February 2019

How much hp do you run with? I didn't like dark cloak but tried it with less than 30k hp, I've heard above that number is where it performs well. I'm also not a vampire so don't have mist form, I didn't like no escape and think that's a requirement for dark cloak.

Wearing 1 medium piece will also give you 2% or whatever more HP, why 2 heavy?

Torbschka · February 2019

Iskiab wrote: »

How much hp do you run with? I didn't like dark cloak but tried it with less than 30k hp, I've heard above that number is where it performs well. I'm also not a vampire so don't have mist form, I didn't like no escape and think that's a requirement for dark cloak.

Wearing 1 medium piece will also give you 2% or whatever more HP, why 2 heavy?

Hey,

in NO CP I sit at 28k HP with it (no undaunted and Breton, Argonian would be best I guess for that build!). So Im pretty sure that Ill reach 30k.

The reason I do run 5l 2h is, that 1 heavy will also give u 2% more HP, so u dont benefit from undaunted here with 5-1-1 in Terms of HP (Stam and mag yes). But the main reason is the armor buff os nb, with 2 heavy I have a higher uptime of the Major armor buff then with only 1 heavy.

As u can see, U pretty much hit above resistance cap if BS is procced with that build, but Keep in mind that every1 and their grandpa runs some Kind of Penetration, so 35k+ resis is actually not bad or "wasted". Dark Cloak is just a different playstyle, as I said, Im always more into the "brawling" side, not so much into that "stealth" gameplay. But yes, if they dont see u, they cant attack u = best mititgation. I just liked the synergy between all of those sets and skills here. An shade AND mistform AND Undo are actually a few nice Tools u can Play around to "troll" People. If im chased by 5-10 zerglings, I dont lie, if they are any competent I wont gonna kill them, at least not all of them. But very often they wont kill me neither and starting running around like rabbits after I shade mist undo lol - ist pretty fun. With Bloodspawn und potion u can get ultimate very fast.

Jeezye · February 2019

thx for sharing. Shade and mist have been my favourite tools on magblade a while ago when I enjoyed magblade the most, but the problem I have nowadays is that almost all healing is over-time based, meaning mist significantly counteracts the playstyle.

I'm definitly on your side, haven't used "real" cloak in years. I've been running skeleton lately which is kinda nice because major protections is not affected by penetration, meaning its more effective against the current penetration meta. However, I went back to bloodspawn too because its provides just enough stam management and the ulti gain is amazing.

Your defensive setup looks solid, however I assume you struggle to kill any half competent player because they either reflect, absorb or dodge 80% of your abilites. I've been somewhat successful running swallow soul AND conceiled weapon, and use swallow only in ranged combat and from time to time to keep the hot up. CW is way more reliable in providing pressure imo.

would be great to see some clips of you in action!

Knootewoot · February 2019

I recently tried a no cloak for my magblade. I first used

2 * chudan (medium and light)
5* heavy fortified brass
jewels+weapons war maiden

I killed a few guys and survived all ganks by stamblades. But my penetration and regeneration was not good enough.

So i changed to:
2 * chudan (medium and heavy)
5* light fortified brass
jewels+weapons war maiden

Using the assassin bubble skill i forgot the name i had around same physiscal and spell resistance but slighly less health. But still i could survive most battles except if multiple people jumped on top of me as i just don't have any mobility.

Just trying to get something work without cloak. For some reason i could not get this build work with melee magblade but only ranged magblade. I will test some more.

Iskiab · February 2019

Issue with magblade is pvp requires a lot of self healing to do well. All magblade self healing is tied to a reflectable attack (swallow soul) or cloak, if you go cloak then you’re missing your best escape tool.

If you’re dead set on magblade using cloak you’ll need mistform. Then armour master would be better than light fortified because you’ll be using the light armour damage shield a lot.

Really there are three options as a magblade:
1. light armour tank using soul siphon or crushing shock with the vAS staff, buff your survivability to try to make it work
2. don’t use a defensive set, use a strong sustain set instead with shadowy disguise. Try to be a cloak blade and ganker
3. Play another class. Magblade dps is reliant on merciless resolve, twisting path, crippling grasp, and blockade with soul siphon for self healing. All the core damage abilities are with reflectable or ground effects, without them magblades are lower dps than other classes, which means they’re lower damage in pvp.

I’m sure someone will disagree, but if you don’t believe me just try a magblade parse without the ground effects and you’ll see what I mean.