normal difficulty of the new DLC dungeons

zvavi · January 2019

well, a lot of players are complaining they cant get the story inside because because even normal mode "is way too hard" for them. so thats a poll for how difficult the normal version of the new DLC dungeons SOULD be, not how you prefer it.

btw my opinion is the even numbers. yes i do want it hard. preferably with an option for those who cant to complete the story without going inside the dungeon. and yes, i have popcorn in my hands (i honestly want to see the polls results, not to see people argue, but ye).

zvavi · January 2019

It should be harder than previous normal dungeon DLC mods, hard enough to practice mechanics before going to vet. BUT they should also give an alternative for those who cant complete it to experience the story as well.

also dont forget to post why

Nemesis7884 · January 2019

They should make it fungal grotto 2 difficulty, so it will be accessible but not without breaking a bit of sweat.

I think we have hard mode and vet for hard...zos needs to realise that A) the hardcore youtube streamers and trial guilds - who will only do vet anyway - do not represent the majority of eso gamers and B.) many eso gamers enjoy the game as a casual experience, yeah a slight challenge is fine but most people simply dont want to bother with trying the same things over and over. Ther IS already a hard variant so keep normal casual...and introduce one or two person dungeon modes...im sick of waiting 2 hours for every single run

zvavi · January 2019

It should be harder than previous normal dungeon DLC mods, hard enough to practice mechanics before going to vet. BUT they should also give an alternative for those who cant complete it to experience the story as well.

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

A) the hardcore youtube streamers and trial guilds - who will only do vet anyway

honestly... with all the nerfs normal ones got... even when i learn mechanics i go vet right away... so you got a point there, i mean, i went on normal ICP and found out that spirit bomb doesn't kill you. after trying to help people get mechanics for it. it was... a unique experience (also the fire from the Minotaur in BRF doesn't one shot) those left me so surprised. i dont know what kills you and what not in normal ones

redspecter23 · January 2019

They should make it fungal grotto 1 difficulty, so it will be accessible to all eso players.

Let normal be braindead easy for advanced players. Newish players will still find it a challenge, even at FG1 difficulty and everyone deserves to see the story.

Just my opinion, but I'm not a fan of normal DLC dungeons being beyond the capabilities of casuals.

mocap · January 2019

Grabs popcorn. You are here just to watch people argue.

Division 2 will have story mode for their "dungeons"... Envy...
Cmon ZOS! Just disable group mechanics!

Mr_Walker · January 2019

They should make it fungal grotto 2 difficulty, so it will be accessible but not without breaking a bit of sweat.

Took m,e 4 goes the other night to get pugs capable of doing normal Blackheart Haven.

Just in advance of all the incoming "lol even vet dungeons are simples" stories. No, actually, they're not. Not for everyone.

MaxJrFTW · January 2019

It should be harder than previous normal dungeon DLC mods, hard enough to practice mechanics before going to vet.

If a normal DLC dungeon is too hard for you, then you should find a new hobby. They're mind-numbingly easy.

FlyingSwan · January 2019

It should be harder than previous normal dungeon DLC mods, hard enough to practice mechanics before going to vet.

Normal DLCs are pretty easy anyway, so just a small crank in difficulty above that, nothing major. As it's just a small bit of extra story in the dungeon - not the whole thing - it will give players an incentive to work to see it, which will introduce more people to the joys of dungeon running. Guilds will always help those who struggle with the basics.

It's a good idea from ZOS. A bit like how I had to PvP to get Vigor, was dreading it, but in fact enjoyed it somewhat. Helps cross-pollinate different aspects of the game, otherwise it's just a bunch of siloed playstyles.

bzz86 · January 2019

Grabs popcorn. You are here just to watch people argue.

There should be another option in your votes - > 'dont really care - I will eventually do it anyway'

But yeah - I would love to see people argue ;-)

zaria · January 2019

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

If a normal DLC dungeon is too hard for you, then you should find a new hobby. They're mind-numbingly easy.

It depend, even the newer are not very hard, comparable with the easier vet dungeons.
This however can be hard if you get an group of <160 cp players in junk gear and not much skill.

Note that this is a pretty unrealistic setting, yes it happens sometimes if you run random dungeons.
However most of the times you have better players making it an cakewalk.

Emma_Overload · January 2019

They should make it fungal grotto 1 difficulty, so it will be accessible to all eso players.

This will be the second DLC in a row I refuse to buy, and I wish I could get refunds on the rest of them. ZOS needs to learn that players won't buy content that isn't fun to play.

Protossyder · January 2019

Those who want it for the story can go to youtube. make it even harder!

The "go to YouTube" part might be a little over-exaggerated, but seriously though. Why can't challenging content fit into the story? Don't fall into despair just because you actually have to gear up for the first time. Crybabies everywhere...

Latios · January 2019

They should make it fungal grotto 1 difficulty, so it will be accessible to all eso players.

Normal should be pie, imo.

Leave hard content for those who choose it to be like that.

Thalidar · January 2019

Grabs popcorn. You are here just to watch people argue.

Gotta be honest here. If you're going to advertise it's a yearly story arc with all 4 dlcs then you have to make it accessible and enjoyable by everyone.

Neyane · January 2019

It should be harder than previous normal dungeon DLC mods, hard enough to practice mechanics before going to vet.

If normal is too easy, it will be even harder to complete vet. I love the vet dlc dungeons, they are really fun and challenging. My group and I have a great time smashing through them. It takes practice and time but that's what makes the reward more sweeter.

I understand not everyone can find a group to help, and that pugs are usually very bad... I think the dungeon finder needs to be looked at when it comes to DLC dungeons. An option for it to be taken out of daily randoms would be good.

munster1404 · January 2019

They should make it fungal grotto 1 difficulty, so it will be accessible to all eso players.

I say we go one step further : solo story mode and we can get that coveted story skill point at the end of the dungeon. No gear drops, limit them to normal and veteran only. Seriously, I'm horrible at reading combat cues and the mechanics for DLC dungeons are a major turn off. To be honest, I even avoid vanilla dungeons like FG2, CoH2, CoA2 just because of things like one shots, dps checks etc.

josiahva · January 2019

They already have the difficulty of normal DLC dungeons fine...no need to adjust one way or the other...lvl20s can finish the dungeons fine...what more do you want? This isnt braindead overland content.

Mintaka5 · January 2019

They should make it fungal grotto 1 difficulty, so it will be accessible to all eso players.

Honesty?!?!?

If this game is too easy for you, go play something else. Keep normal dungeons easier so we can learn the mechanics for vet.

Delpi · January 2019

They should make it fungal grotto 2 difficulty, so it will be accessible but not without breaking a bit of sweat.

I don't bother to buy DLC dungeons because I don't have enough time to do them. Come on... vanilla dungeons only last 10 min and that's great for me.

Sabbathius · January 2019

They should make it fungal grotto 2 difficulty, so it will be accessible but not without breaking a bit of sweat.

Ideally I'd like to see them add one more difficulty tier to dungeons. Currently it's Normal->Vet. I'd like to see Normal get a bit harder, and HM added to the entire dungeon, not just bosses. So the progression would become Normal->Vet->HM, and Normal wouldn't be a faceroll any longer. People who can't handle the new normal would still have Public Dungeons and Delves to keep them occupied.

karekiz · January 2019

It should be harder than previous normal dungeon DLC mods, hard enough to practice mechanics before going to vet.

How do you do this thing called bashing?

Dark_Lord_Kuro · January 2019

The world shall burn they should have made it a story DLC and not a dungeon.

Adding the main story to 2 dongeon pack is really the worst thing they could have done
group content and main story dont work well together in this game just look wath happened to craglorn in his aventure zone time people would just rush the story and not thaking the time to read it or just ignore it compleatly
KEEP MAIN STORY OUT OF THESE DAM DONGEON!!!
and remova a dogeon pack a year so eso plus would get 2 wort it dlc per year insted of 1

MattT1988 · January 2019

It should be harder than previous normal dungeon DLC mods, hard enough to practice mechanics before going to vet.

Emma_Overload wrote: »

This will be the second DLC in a row I refuse to buy, and I wish I could get refunds on the rest of them. ZOS needs to learn that players won't buy content that isn't fun to play.

Well clearly they are fun because enough people are buying them for them to keep making them. You might not find them fun but a stack of players do.

Reistr_the_Unbroken · February 2019

MattT1988 wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

This will be the second DLC in a row I refuse to buy, and I wish I could get refunds on the rest of them. ZOS needs to learn that players won't buy content that isn't fun to play.

Well clearly they are fun because enough people are buying them for them to keep making them. You might not find them fun but a stack of players do.

I only “bought” mine because I pre-ordered Elsweyr. Wish I could get a refund on it but nope! Can’t get a refund on digital products, even if they don’t work.

MasterSpatula · February 2019

Well, it wouldn't be ESO without terrible polls. Hell, you didn't even have an options for "About the same as previous DLC dungeons."

Of course, the inclusion of the "popcorn" option makes it seem more like you're here to troll than to actually gauge opinions and spur real discussion.

Wolfchild07 · February 2019

Introduce a story mode for all dungeons that doesn't require specific roles so people don't have to sit in queue for hours at a time.

Wifeaggro13 · February 2019

Wolfchild07 wrote: »

Introduce a story mode for all dungeons that doesn't require specific roles so people don't have to sit in queue for hours at a time.

nothing wrong with this at all. but loot table should be disabled and standard non set purple drops for these reduced dungeons. i guess the biggest issue will be is the single player RPG community will start complaining they dont get the new sets and items from the dungeons.

GraphicArtistYT · February 2019

They should make it fungal grotto 1 difficulty, so it will be accessible to all eso players.

And make it easier to get skins instead of doing no death speed runs hard mode

Mr_Walker · February 2019

They should make it fungal grotto 2 difficulty, so it will be accessible but not without breaking a bit of sweat.

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

If a normal DLC dungeon is too hard for you, then you should find a new hobby. They're mind-numbingly easy.

OK.

Wish I could be awesome like you.

Facefister · February 2019

What's the matter people? Just grab a "10k dps DD who doesn't die to any mechanic" or two and you're set. Should be a cakewalk.

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