Do people not realize that when they make threads like this one it basically says to the entire forum that they have very little understanding of the game and aren't any good?

What does a counter to the entire Templar class even look like lmao? If based on your poll you think Ritual is OP then I invite you to try playing templar for a little while. I absolutely guarantee that if people who come in to the forums saying certain classes are ez mode actually built and played that class for a while their opinions would be vastly different.

For example I still think stamina NBs are too strong 1v1, and I maintain that view. BUT, instead of just complaining I actually have one and I gear it up and go play for a while to try and understand what's going on. Because of this I understand that while yes, stamblades have far and away the best upfront single target burst of any class which can be frustrating 1v1, it's also very difficult to maintain your basic defensive buff in medium armor without spamming cloak constantly because you only get like 3.5 seconds of ward/resolve after cloak ends so going head to head with other classes without relying on cloak is very difficult. Therefore I would offer that either NBs stay they same and remain very effective in certain situations, or, they get better access to ward/resolve in exchange for a less effective cloak and maybe a slight reduction to damage like no 20% increase after incapac.

But I digress. My point being, if you do not have any experience with the class you're criticizing you cannot offer any meaningful discussion and threads like this one do nothing because they offer no real insight or evidence and just generate misplaced hate which, unfortunately, can sometimes lead to real and unneeded nerfs that degrade the quality of PvP.

Well you can be sure Necro will have Defiles. Hell maybe they will get bonus damage to blocking targets and a pile of Oblivion damage skills too

Templar does have a counter, it’s called getting good and learning how to play. And this neat little tactic works against every class in the game.

@Vapirko Calm down bud ... A little touchy are we about Templars. are we Lol

I assume you know who I am ... i also assume you know my playstyle. You have points I validate, but I also choose to play one class. There are no rules to this game, and as far as I know I can play one class. With that said ...

Let me just say your your comment to unvalidate my post is very worthless in a sence. Since you may play or main Templar I would tell you, you have not seen the amount of nerfs to a class as I've seen to mine. And after 8k+ hours on one class I would highly say, maybe you don't understand a class as you play every class. If you have all classes and races and sets and achievements and titles that's great for you. But I'm going on my 9th straight nerf to my class and playstyle and after the next dlc that 10.

The good thing is I will be nerding out on Necro as my last class. I learned my lesson with Warden. One of the things id like to see is a counter to Templars. You might not understand stand what I'm talking about. If I have a playstyle of all dots, and a templar can remove all my dots that's a "Counter" buddy and something in my opinion needs to be removed from the game. Just like every templar crying over 2015/16 Fassalas and 2017/18 Duroks for 2-3 years.

So my point is why not make Necros counter Templars after all there are classes sets builds and abilities that counter. So I say this, Nerco better not have a defile that's unremovable or a skill or ability that will turn your buff into a negitive effect. The only thing I plan on doing is building to kill Templars.

But nice try in unvalidating my post.... 👍

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

@Vapirko Calm down bud ... A little touchy are we about Templars. are we Lol

I assume you know who I am ... i also assume you know my playstyle. You have points I validate, but I also choose to play one class. There are no rules to this game, and as far as I know I can play one class. With that said ...

Let me just say your your comment to unvalidate my post is very worthless in a sence. Since you may play or main Templar I would tell you, you have not seen the amount of nerfs to a class as I've seen to mine. And after 8k+ hours on one class I would highly say, maybe you don't understand a class as you play every class. If you have all classes and races and sets and achievements and titles that's great for you. But I'm going on my 9th straight nerf to my class and playstyle and after the next dlc that 10.

The good thing is I will be nerding out on Necro as my last class. I learned my lesson with Warden. One of the things id like to see is a counter to Templars. You might not understand stand what I'm talking about. If I have a playstyle of all dots, and a templar can remove all my dots that's a "Counter" buddy and something in my opinion needs to be removed from the game. Just like every templar crying over 2015/16 Fassalas and 2017/18 Duroks for 2-3 years.

So my point is why not make Necros counter Templars after all there are classes sets builds and abilities that counter. So I say this, Nerco better not have a defile that's unremovable or a skill or ability that will turn your buff into a negitive effect. The only thing I plan on doing is building to kill Templars.

But nice try in unvalidating my post.... 👍

the counter to Templar is nightblade

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

70% of the game are Templars super Argonian sustain builds that never run out of resouces. I understand I'm attacking this class and I expect nothing but nonconstructive comments. Unless ZOS says we reward players with super blocking unkillable pocket healers. I will still try to defend them having a counter ...

So please ... Templars players I understand you are afraid that Necros could be your counter in PvP. But we don't know yet, and Templars say it's not EZ mode. Lmfao keep depending your class as its not easy mode but you sure have a lot to say.

Let's try to get constructive comments 👍

Why are you wasting your time trying to kill pocket healbots? Also argonians are getting nerfed. 70% of the players are not Templar’s heal bots lol.

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

@Vapirko Who said I was trying to kill healbots... And that nerf is laughable, you want proof ?

The lore of Woodelves are immune to disease.

The lore to Argonians are immune to poison.

Tell me the reason behind that one if the didn't want to keep Argonians OP in PvP ? Defile status effect probley ? That nerf of 1k Resouces passive was hardly a nerf.

Don't know what platform your on but ps4Na is 70% Argonian mistform magplars or master axes pol stamplars. Com'n man - Plz ... 😂🤣

All I can find is vids of you losing and being salty. You seem to find me funny yet I doubt you’ll find even a small handful of people who would support nerfing ritual, Templar mains or otherwise. Like all other people who post nerf threads, you present a biased poll, no meaningful argument or facts. I guarantee that even if they nerfed the argonian poison passive and ritual you’d still get beat by Templars.

chris211 wrote: »

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

@Vapirko Calm down bud ... A little touchy are we about Templars. are we Lol

I assume you know who I am ... i also assume you know my playstyle. You have points I validate, but I also choose to play one class. There are no rules to this game, and as far as I know I can play one class. With that said ...

Let me just say your your comment to unvalidate my post is very worthless in a sence. Since you may play or main Templar I would tell you, you have not seen the amount of nerfs to a class as I've seen to mine. And after 8k+ hours on one class I would highly say, maybe you don't understand a class as you play every class. If you have all classes and races and sets and achievements and titles that's great for you. But I'm going on my 9th straight nerf to my class and playstyle and after the next dlc that 10.

The good thing is I will be nerding out on Necro as my last class. I learned my lesson with Warden. One of the things id like to see is a counter to Templars. You might not understand stand what I'm talking about. If I have a playstyle of all dots, and a templar can remove all my dots that's a "Counter" buddy and something in my opinion needs to be removed from the game. Just like every templar crying over 2015/16 Fassalas and 2017/18 Duroks for 2-3 years.

So my point is why not make Necros counter Templars after all there are classes sets builds and abilities that counter. So I say this, Nerco better not have a defile that's unremovable or a skill or ability that will turn your buff into a negitive effect. The only thing I plan on doing is building to kill Templars.

But nice try in unvalidating my post.... 👍

the counter to Templar is nightblade

I don't have issues with nightblade as much as I do DKs

Lock me in place hit me up with dots and lots of direct damage and Templar *** ability to get out of it means flushing my resources on the damn skill the OP is complaining about

No resources equals dead no matter what the class ...

Nightblade spamming cloak burns their resources if you keep mage light on them and hit them with your own dots, eventually the window of opportunity opens and out goes the nightblade

@Vapirko Your right i am on vids losing, and I doubt I was salty. I don't get upset at a game that doesn't make me money or isn't an Esport. Fyi there's nothing to get salty about... 😂

If you don't find this game fun or funny than my friend you have a lot to learn. Nerfing ritual was a small suggestion, but it seems you my be reliant on it 100%.

And a biasd poll of no meaningful argument ? My argument -

" 70% of the game - ps4na is an Argonian magplars and stamplars ! "

And if you feel I get beat bye Templars, well it's nice too know that for 3 years i beat everyone on the block. Id hope you learned how to beat me after 4+ years. Lol Stamancer will be nice to main. You're the only one taking this that serious have you ever been any good at a game that actually takes skill ?


But any-who why don't you tell me your gamertag so I may have the pleasure of knowing who I am speaking with ? That way when I bring my Stamancer in PvP I can show you how terrible I am and will be dominated by your templar.

Good times brother 👊👍💯

If, tomorrow, I tell ZOS that, like, a bug is ruining the games performance, nobody panics. But when I say that one small Templar ability should be removed, well then everyone loses their minds.

It's funny to see in the comments that's all you seen. Was "Remove Ritual" - Tired of these nerfs threads, but wasn't tired enough to nerfs sorcs into the ground.

It's ok Nerco is coming - In ZOS we trust !

Remember your tires of nerf threads so when Necro comes out no saying to nerf stuff 👊🤣😂

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

@D0PAMINE

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456539/will-necromancer-be-broken

🤣😂

K

Karmanorway wrote: »

I dont Mind if they do. Those 55k hp mistforming argonian magplars that 2 shots me can indeed be a bit too much sometimes geez and i thougth 30k phys/spell resist would be enough... Anyhow, guess its just a L2P issue like someone above stated earlier

If you’re trolling haha, if not plz show video of a 55k hp Templar who can 2 shot you and/or post your build. I’m positive we can help you out to prevent this from happening again.

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