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Do ultimates mean less now?
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StarOfElyon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭StarOfElyon wrote: »Tbh, its quite hard to see whats going on cause its so zoomed in its nearly first Person.
But what is your complain? There were about 4 players hitting on you, your Remembrance healed you for the full duration and keept you alive. After this, you died. Nothing special.
You can't read then.
What? Did you watched your own Video?
There where 4 players + 2 deadroth from a proc set hitting on you. After your Remembrance you where still empty on Ressources and still on your squishy resto Bar barely doing anything to reduce incoming damage. No blocking on your s&b bar, no dodge roll. Just standing there and Bol. And even using accelerare for no reason except wasting magicka.
I would advice putting Bol on your sword and board bar and block while casting bol for some damage mitigation. And dont block on your resto bar, this will consume way to much stamina. And using Spellwall as an ult is really effective and i would prefer it over Remembrance cause you are mobile while using spell wall.
You still missed the point because you didn't read. It wasn't as much about why my ultimate didn't help me win. It did its job. The point was that the proccs were so powerful that I even needed to ultimate in the first place. You could have saved me the trouble of typing this if you would have just read my comments.
As for your critiques, I have defending on my resto-staff, I get a 5000 pt damage shield due to the Psijic skill on that bar, and I get boosted heals from my HtD from the resto-staff passives. My resistance in my resto-staff bar is just about the same as my S&B bar, only I get an additional damage shield and additional healing. The only reason I survived was because I set that up as my "survival bar". And it worked, like I said. But I was out of stamina. I'm a magicka templar, not a stamplar. My set up didn't fail me. And I wasn't even blocking while performing my ultimate, now that I think about it. But this isn't about my skills, it's about powerful proc sets rivaling ultimates and making them seem less special.Edited by StarOfElyon on January 29, 2019 1:04PM0 -
Raammzzaa✭✭✭✭✭StarOfElyon wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »Tbh, its quite hard to see whats going on cause its so zoomed in its nearly first Person.
But what is your complain? There were about 4 players hitting on you, your Remembrance healed you for the full duration and keept you alive. After this, you died. Nothing special.
You can't read then.
What? Did you watched your own Video?
There where 4 players + 2 deadroth from a proc set hitting on you. After your Remembrance you where still empty on Ressources and still on your squishy resto Bar barely doing anything to reduce incoming damage. No blocking on your s&b bar, no dodge roll. Just standing there and Bol. And even using accelerare for no reason except wasting magicka.
I would advice putting Bol on your sword and board bar and block while casting bol for some damage mitigation. And dont block on your resto bar, this will consume way to much stamina. And using Spellwall as an ult is really effective and i would prefer it over Remembrance cause you are mobile while using spell wall.
You still missed the point because you didn't read. It wasn't as much about why my ultimate didn't help me win. It did its job. The point was that the proccs were so powerful that I even needed to ultimate in the first place. You could have saved me the trouble of typing this if you would have just read my comments.
As for your critiques, I have defending on my resto-staff, I get a 5000 pt damage shield due to the Psijic skill on that bar, and I get boosted heals from my HtD from the resto-staff passives. My resistance in my resto-staff bar is just about the same as my S&B bar, only I get an additional damage shield and additional healing. The only reason I survived was because I set that up as my "survival bar". And it worked, like I said. But I was out of stamina. I'm a magicka templar, not a stamplar. My set up didn't fail me. And I wasn't even blocking while performing my ultimate, now that I think about it. But this isn't about my skills, it's about powerful proc sets rivaling ultimates and making them seem less special.
If that was your point, that proc sets are so powerful, you did a very poor job making it. I have re-read your original post and your title on this thread more than once... smh
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Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sadly ultimates become just an "expensive skill to use"
Sadly ultimates favor zerging instead of small scaling
Sadly a lot of ultimates are nearly useless compared to othersI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations1 -
Drdeath20✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thank god ultimates are not the end all be all as they use to be. Vampire dragonknight emperors only using bats to clear zergs. Yeah no thank you.0 -
grannas211✭✭✭✭✭
✭StarOfElyon wrote: »Meteor is one of the most common ultimates I still think are effective. I know because I catch them constantly in Battlegrounds. (I swear it seems like people dump everything they have on me)
But outside of that and soul assault, I can't think of another ultimate that I thought was affecting the match much. Maybe negate. That's an ultimate right? The proc sets are much harder to deal with than most ultimates though.
hold block, its actually one of the worst ultimates1 -
StarOfElyon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭StarOfElyon wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »Tbh, its quite hard to see whats going on cause its so zoomed in its nearly first Person.
But what is your complain? There were about 4 players hitting on you, your Remembrance healed you for the full duration and keept you alive. After this, you died. Nothing special.
You can't read then.
What? Did you watched your own Video?
There where 4 players + 2 deadroth from a proc set hitting on you. After your Remembrance you where still empty on Ressources and still on your squishy resto Bar barely doing anything to reduce incoming damage. No blocking on your s&b bar, no dodge roll. Just standing there and Bol. And even using accelerare for no reason except wasting magicka.
I would advice putting Bol on your sword and board bar and block while casting bol for some damage mitigation. And dont block on your resto bar, this will consume way to much stamina. And using Spellwall as an ult is really effective and i would prefer it over Remembrance cause you are mobile while using spell wall.
You still missed the point because you didn't read. It wasn't as much about why my ultimate didn't help me win. It did its job. The point was that the proccs were so powerful that I even needed to ultimate in the first place. You could have saved me the trouble of typing this if you would have just read my comments.
As for your critiques, I have defending on my resto-staff, I get a 5000 pt damage shield due to the Psijic skill on that bar, and I get boosted heals from my HtD from the resto-staff passives. My resistance in my resto-staff bar is just about the same as my S&B bar, only I get an additional damage shield and additional healing. The only reason I survived was because I set that up as my "survival bar". And it worked, like I said. But I was out of stamina. I'm a magicka templar, not a stamplar. My set up didn't fail me. And I wasn't even blocking while performing my ultimate, now that I think about it. But this isn't about my skills, it's about powerful proc sets rivaling ultimates and making them seem less special.
If that was your point, that proc sets are so powerful, you did a very poor job making it. I have re-read your original post and your title on this thread more than once... smh
Sounds like you have a reading comprehension problem or a chip on your shoulder. Maybe both.0 -
Yvarhna✭✭✭GrumpyDuckling wrote: »The Daedroths from Maw of the Infernal can be formidable opponents if you are stationary and not attacking them, but most of the time I don't seem them live long enough to make much of an impact.
I fought a BGs with two pets sorcs runnign two pets each + deadroths. A total of six extra targets. What a nightmare.
I put together a build once that ran the Deadroth, both pets, the storm atro, and the defiler set. It was a beast. I just had to sit there and heavy attack and shield. I might try to resurrect this build with all of the proc pet options for mag now. Replace defiler with something more powerful.
This is what I pretty much roll when I pvp, though I am just using my pve set for now cause i'm lazy. The Zoo build is funny as hell. My daedroth Bob procs quite a lot. Good ole Bob, so funny when he zero's in on people and smacks them in the face.0 -
Raammzzaa✭✭✭✭✭StarOfElyon wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »Tbh, its quite hard to see whats going on cause its so zoomed in its nearly first Person.
But what is your complain? There were about 4 players hitting on you, your Remembrance healed you for the full duration and keept you alive. After this, you died. Nothing special.
You can't read then.
What? Did you watched your own Video?
There where 4 players + 2 deadroth from a proc set hitting on you. After your Remembrance you where still empty on Ressources and still on your squishy resto Bar barely doing anything to reduce incoming damage. No blocking on your s&b bar, no dodge roll. Just standing there and Bol. And even using accelerare for no reason except wasting magicka.
I would advice putting Bol on your sword and board bar and block while casting bol for some damage mitigation. And dont block on your resto bar, this will consume way to much stamina. And using Spellwall as an ult is really effective and i would prefer it over Remembrance cause you are mobile while using spell wall.
You still missed the point because you didn't read. It wasn't as much about why my ultimate didn't help me win. It did its job. The point was that the proccs were so powerful that I even needed to ultimate in the first place. You could have saved me the trouble of typing this if you would have just read my comments.
As for your critiques, I have defending on my resto-staff, I get a 5000 pt damage shield due to the Psijic skill on that bar, and I get boosted heals from my HtD from the resto-staff passives. My resistance in my resto-staff bar is just about the same as my S&B bar, only I get an additional damage shield and additional healing. The only reason I survived was because I set that up as my "survival bar". And it worked, like I said. But I was out of stamina. I'm a magicka templar, not a stamplar. My set up didn't fail me. And I wasn't even blocking while performing my ultimate, now that I think about it. But this isn't about my skills, it's about powerful proc sets rivaling ultimates and making them seem less special.
If that was your point, that proc sets are so powerful, you did a very poor job making it. I have re-read your original post and your title on this thread more than once... smh
Sounds like you have a reading comprehension problem or a chip on your shoulder. Maybe both.
The title of this thread is about ultimates, not proc sets. Each of your paragraphs in your original post are about ultimates. You posted a video of yourself using a healing ultimate and then getting packed up. You later started replying that this thread was really about proc sets, not ultimates, or you getting exed. When the other poster disgreed with you, you replied that he can’t read. I think he can read just fine...
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StarOfElyon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭StarOfElyon wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »Tbh, its quite hard to see whats going on cause its so zoomed in its nearly first Person.
But what is your complain? There were about 4 players hitting on you, your Remembrance healed you for the full duration and keept you alive. After this, you died. Nothing special.
You can't read then.
What? Did you watched your own Video?
There where 4 players + 2 deadroth from a proc set hitting on you. After your Remembrance you where still empty on Ressources and still on your squishy resto Bar barely doing anything to reduce incoming damage. No blocking on your s&b bar, no dodge roll. Just standing there and Bol. And even using accelerare for no reason except wasting magicka.
I would advice putting Bol on your sword and board bar and block while casting bol for some damage mitigation. And dont block on your resto bar, this will consume way to much stamina. And using Spellwall as an ult is really effective and i would prefer it over Remembrance cause you are mobile while using spell wall.
You still missed the point because you didn't read. It wasn't as much about why my ultimate didn't help me win. It did its job. The point was that the proccs were so powerful that I even needed to ultimate in the first place. You could have saved me the trouble of typing this if you would have just read my comments.
As for your critiques, I have defending on my resto-staff, I get a 5000 pt damage shield due to the Psijic skill on that bar, and I get boosted heals from my HtD from the resto-staff passives. My resistance in my resto-staff bar is just about the same as my S&B bar, only I get an additional damage shield and additional healing. The only reason I survived was because I set that up as my "survival bar". And it worked, like I said. But I was out of stamina. I'm a magicka templar, not a stamplar. My set up didn't fail me. And I wasn't even blocking while performing my ultimate, now that I think about it. But this isn't about my skills, it's about powerful proc sets rivaling ultimates and making them seem less special.
If that was your point, that proc sets are so powerful, you did a very poor job making it. I have re-read your original post and your title on this thread more than once... smh
Sounds like you have a reading comprehension problem or a chip on your shoulder. Maybe both.
The title of this thread is about ultimates, not proc sets. Each of your paragraphs in your original post are about ultimates. You posted a video of yourself using a healing ultimate and then getting packed up. You later started replying that this thread was really about proc sets, not ultimates, or you getting exed. When the other poster disgreed with you, you replied that he can’t read. I think he can read just fine...StarOfElyon wrote: »I still see people using ultimates like meteor and soul assault so I know they have value but I've also noticed that many more impactful attacks are used in PVP and it seems to be at a higher rate.
Just yesterday in Battlegrounds, I had to fight two Daedroths AND the other team. I used my ultimate to survive the situation... for a few more seconds. But it wasn't enough. Ultimates were supposed to be game changers weren't they? ZOS should pay attention to this. Ultimates aren't so ultimate anymore.
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong but are these more like "ultimates" than ultimates are?
https://youtu.be/K6aspzHg-N0StarOfElyon wrote: »Yeah, of course some are weak. But I think the Ultimate has lost its shine with the power and uptime of many of these sets players are using in PVP.
Even if the first post didn't make my intent clear, I think my follow up comment makes it clear that I'm making a comparison of ultimates to the power of proc sets.0 -
FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭TheDarkoil wrote: »I front bar meteor and backbar reviving barrier, in trials particularly vet ones I keep it procced and if there's a sudden need to rez people I pop it to me and nearby teammates and start rezing, has saved a complete wipe a few times I'm sure of it. I use the same ults in PvP as well, use meteor to disperse groups or reviving barrier if charging through breaches or keep doors.
Nobody complains that you don't provide Warhorns?1
