Mag Sorc with Pets does this cause group to lose DPS in City of Ash last boss?

Veinblood1965 · January 2019

Hi all,

I'm about CP 630 Mag Sorc running dual pets. Knew it was going to be a bad PUG in City of Ash II Vet when right off the bat the tank stated you all queued for vet? I've ran it more times than I can count and haven't had many issues on last boss. I'll give him that the other DPS and the Heals were about 300 to 400 CP which could be a concern. My DPS is quite high we run just fine until the last boss and tank wanted to read the scroll. I thought it might be iffy as I'd been covering for the heals with pet heals most of the run but we had no problems. Well we wiped like 3 times the heals was dying within the first few seconds each time and all through each run. We'd get the boss to about 1.2 million health and wipe after the circle thingy's disappear. We were also rezzing the other DPS quite a bit also.

The DPS leaves and we bring in a new DPS who had 810 CP and the heals just kept dying right off the bat and all through the run. The new DPS states that I should get rid of my pets as they are causing us to lose DPS and the tank was stating it was due to pulling agro from him. As anyone knows it's a PAIN in the Arse to get rid of your pets quickly. I was getting rid of them when they kicked me from the group.

I'm not here to gripe about that but curious as to is this true? Can pet's cause loss of agro in that setting? I can see if the tank was trying to pull in the fire adds but they are stationary for the most part. If this is true how does that work? And am I missing something is there a QUICK way to get rid of pets!

BTW just as an FYI I ran it again and read scroll and did just fine. IMO it was the healer dying so quick, when the last circle thingy disappears you gotta have heals.

susmitds · January 2019

If it is taking so long that the last platform is disappearing, that group ain't ready for Hard Mode.

codestripper · January 2019

In the maybe hundred or so times i've done this dungeon on my pet sorc I can say that pets do not "steal" aggro from enemies. If anything they take aggro just as we do. They are also not a DPS loss, that one doesn't even make a whole lot of sense.

Sounds like you just ran with a toxic group. Also

susmitds wrote: »

If it is taking so long that the last platform is disappearing, that group ain't ready for Hard Mode.

I'd say any group that beats it is ready for hardmode. Although more DPS would put less stress on the healer at the end, that much is true.

yooqi · January 2019

If the healer is constantly dying, seems weird to point finger at the pets. I think that boss has a mechanic where it will turn away from the tank, and it will also run across the room and destroy circles regardless of tank's aggro anyway.

For future reference though, you can get rid of pets in the character screen, or if you're on PC you can setup an addon to quickly switch between "pet" and "no pet" setups (I use Dressing Room). There's also a button to ensure pets attack the same target as you, I think it's Y + left click on PC. It can be useful in fights with multiple enemies. Still, doesn't sound like pets were the issue especially if you were able to run it with another group.

VaranisArano · January 2019

Pets don't taunt or override taunt, so as long as your tank was using an actual taunt they should not have been able to take boss aggro fron the tank. If the tank was trying to pull in the atronachs and the pets were interfering, its because the tank wasn't using a taunt and was trying to do it with regular crowd control.

I think the quickest way to get rid of pets is to click on their buff on the character sheet and dismiss them from there.

In any case, having to rez another player is going to cause a much bigger DPS loss than a pet sorc vs non pet sorc.

Protossyder · January 2019

Veinblood1965 · January 2019

Thanks everyone, just curious about that. I don't mind ditching the pets if needed if that had been the case but my rotation is built on it. Yes agreed if it takes that long then DPS ain't up to snuff.

I went against my standard that I use and paid for it. I've been getting out of PuG's the very first second there's an elitist jerk at the beginning. It never works out good.

zvavi · January 2019

Man. I main pet sorc. And I did that dungeon many times. The boss has an attack that ignores taunts. Your "team" should learn how to block. U got waaaay longer channel than what you have in banished cells 1. That's... Just sad how people blame the pets

Kurat · January 2019

You just had bad group. If tank was taunting then pets couldn't steal aggro. Pets can be annoying sometimes and start attacking before everyone's ready or pull enemies that you didn't wanna engage but that wasn't the case this time. And pet sorc in group without pets is a dps loss not the other way around lol.

RogueShark · January 2019

Pets don't steal taunt.
They can hold aggro tho if your tank lost taunt, died, or didn't taunt, however.

Pets can be annoying sometimes and start attacking before everyone's ready

Pets don't pull. People mistakenly believe pets will facepull the boss or adds because as soon as someone in the GROUP gets aggro, that split second, your pets will rush in and start fighting.