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Is it worth maxing crafting on all alts for writs?

  • efster
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    I have 15 toons at max level in every craft except Jewelry (working on the 7th at the moment). If nothing else, it's worth the OCD satisfaction. B)
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  • FrancisCrawford
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    I've maxed clothing and enchanting on all 15 characters, and the same will soon be true of blacksmithing and woodworking. Jewelry is a work in progress. I max alchemy when I get around to it.

    The vast majority of my characters also have most or all possible hirelings.

    What isn't necessarily worth it is investing the time to get enough skill points to max out the crafting passives. Right now, I only have two characters who are fully combat-ready AND also have their relevant crafting skills maxed out. The rest almost all fit one of those categories but not both; which of the categories they fit changes from time to time with a respec.
  • Sylvermynx
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    I run daily crafting writs on 20 characters a day (yeah, added a second account, already have 5 characters on it....) Now, I enjoy the process, and I LOVE the gold. The small amount of XP isn't much of a draw - but since I have such a hard time with questing and killing in this game, I appreciate it small though it is.

    I save up surveys, running them on one girl on each account a couple times a week. Biggest issue is with the events - by the time I got through New Life, Sha was sitting on 150 of them. Took me a couple weeks to get through all of them....

    Now, I don't intend to max all of them out. I'm not into it for that.... Really it's all about the gold....
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    I max mine out for the gold tempers. To this day, I don't think I've ever bought gold upgrade mats, and I've got dozens of sets in gold and have done thousands of vouchers worth of master writs. That being said, it's a big time investment to get all your toons enough skill points to pull it off. I've been playing for 2-2.5ish years now, and a significant portion of those 2500ish hours are just farming skyshards and public dungeons on alts.

    My work around to the skill point crunch is to simply pick 4-5 toons each patch that I plan to play, and just park the other 10 or so for writs. Each patch, I mix it up a bit. A few of my older toons have plenty of skill points for everything I need, but some of the newer ones I just park if I dont plan to use them. Any level 50 toon has enough skill points to do writs. Once you have done the main quest half a dozen times, you dont mind power-leveling so much. My last toon was at level 50 in just over 4 hours of play time.
    Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on January 29, 2019 12:20AM
  • theyancey
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    I maxed all of mine
  • disintegr8
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    It's really up to you to decide if it's worth it. All of my 15 characters are maxed out in everything except jewelry but I don't do writs on all of them.

    If you enjoy crafting and have use for the rewards, surveys and master writs you get, then yes.
    If you'd rather spend that time in front of a test dummy seeking out higher DPS, or would rather be killing people in Cyrodiil - then probably not.
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  • Smitch_59
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    Nestor wrote: »
    I do max level writs on like 3 of my alts, the rest are all Tier 1. This way, they get all the mats they need for the writs from the writs.

    I am not chasing Gold Tempers, so it works for me. I also have no real need for Master Writs as I have all the things I can buy with WVs.

    This is pretty much my situation. Writs are an easy, dependable source of gold.
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    I'd rather uninstall than log in and out of 8 characters every day. That's like 30-60 minutes spent in load screens alone. You could make the same amount of gold just farming for 30-60 minutes on one character. Load screens give me anxiety.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on January 29, 2019 3:59AM
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  • jainiadral
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    Matchimus wrote: »
    Depends on time available to you and will it take u away from you actually enjoy doing in game. Personally, once is enough. Repeatative behaviour sucks the fun out. I go for variety. I play for a few hours each day and by the time I have done a bit of this and a bit of that...my day is over.

    That's the best answer :) I used to do writs x 4 every day. I noticed it really started wearing hard on me. Run in circles, click buttons, run to the bank, sit through loading screens x4. It got really old. I did writs on my main only for about a month after. I'm down to zero toons per day now, and it feels great! I log once a week or as my bank space runs out to decon CP 160 stuff on my newest alt.

    If you tend to burn out quickly on anything, writs will light rocket fuel under that feeling. Writs are lucrative, but whether they're worth it really depends on what you enjoy. First and foremost, this is a game. Entertainment. Don't forget to have fun!
    Edited by jainiadral on January 29, 2019 1:31AM
  • barney2525
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    My alts just do level 1 equipment writs. I'm just after surveys pretty much.


    Same here. Level one dailies resupply the mats for the dailies, so it's a nice cycle that generates gold and occasional surveys.. well... daily... AND basically "pays for itself" so to speak.

    Every recipe I get, no matter what character, gets banked and run thru my master crafter first. duplicates go to Alts (if they are green) or get sold (if they are purple)
  • Dolphinsgal
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    I do writs on 2 toons daily, sometimes more. I have maxed out provisioning and alchemy so I can make food, potions/poisons on that toon rather than having to swap toons all the time. I do bring the others up to 50 and put points into keen eye, hireling and the one so you can upgrade using less mats. If there's an event I'll do writs on all my toons, 8 now but will be 9 when new class comes out.
  • SignsOfTheTimes
    You will spend half a day doing surveys after a month
  • russelmmendoza
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    Done it once, never gonna do that again.
  • Hotdog_23
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    Varies for me personally. Yes you can make good gold and mats from it but the time it takes is not that fun for me. Really depends on how much time I have that day to play and what I want to do. Most I can do is 4-5 characters a day before it gets to boring especially on console with no lazy writ crafting. Then their are times I do none or 10+.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    You will spend half a day doing surveys after a month

    I stash my surveys. I have a lot of unused surveys. 10-15 is typical for the crafts where I actually occasionally use some. In enchanting and alchemy the stacks are in the 25-50 range.
  • Sharee
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    Never did any writs, i see no reason to waste my time with them. I get all the money i need from cyrodiil rewards. Its not millions, but then what would i need millions for. Its enough to stock up on alchemy materials for potions and the occasional gold mats if i decide to try out a new build.
  • commdt
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    Yes it is absolutely worth it. Doing writs daily on 15 toons for almost a year now and it is crazy amount of gold. Ill share some experience with you, whats important and such

    1. Using Dolgubon writ creator helps a lot. For cooking and alchemy just have a stack of each item in your bank and have check "take items from bank" enabled. This way I do writs on 15 toons in 35 minutes in Vivec. Alinor is fine too

    2. Character level matters. On level 50 you get 4600-4700 gp from all daylies, so its better to max them out

    3. Dont put all 6 points in cooking, max level writs are messed up and you rarely get anything useful. Better leave them at say cooking 4, youll get a lot of blue recipes for 1500 and purple for 5000. Cooking 3 is the same price but items are tied to your alliance so its not very convinient

    4. Even if you cant max out a craft (Jewelry i.e.), than do lvl 1 writs. Gold reward is the same and youll get plenty of Surveys, their drop chance is irrelevant to writ level. Though it is very profitable to do level 50 Jewelry now

    5. To max out a profession (except cooking and alchemy) craft tier 9 (void) items on your main, until level 20 youll get absolutely the same exp from white void dagger and golden rubedite intricate whatever. For jewelry and some other professions now it is cheaper to craft tier 10 items right away. Pump your profession to level 40 this way, then you can deconstruct everything you come across or just buy some intricate items. Dont forget to deconstruct what you get from writs also

    6. Master writs are very important part of the drop, and their drop chance depends on your knowledge in given craft:
    a. Alchemy - learn all ingridients, it is good to do it after alchemy 40, youll be near 50 after learning everything. Addon "Potion maker" helps a lot
    b. Cooking depends on number of purple and gold recipes youve learned, though it is not relevant now as top tier quests are broken
    c. Enchanting - learn every rune to max out writ drop. Your last move is to craft Hakeijo + Repora + Kuta on every twink, then sell it, youll lose nothing. Lower level potency runes you can easily buy from Enchanter NPC for 100gp
    b. Other trades - Number of motifs and traits matter. Learn daedric/barbaric/Ancient Elf/Primal, they are dirt cheap. You can also learn some other cheap motifs like Hollowjack. Learn traits on all your twinks, at least 8 in every item, it matters a lot and cost nothing, nirn on armor is very cheap too. Just craft items on your main and put them in your bank. Addon "Craft store" helps a lot in tracking traits.
    c. Jewelry - just dont bother

    7. Everything listed above affects Writs drop chances not their quality. Quality is just a random but the more you get in total the more good ones there will be

    8. Also dont fordet to invest in hirelings - thats a lot of purple tempers and occasionaly golden ones too. On 15 toons I get at least 1 golden temper per day. Note that skillpoints in the first passive in a given craft affect the quality of hireling raw mats

    9. To craft master writs you can use Dolgubon again. Just right click on every writ and select "craft", dont take the quest yet! Then the addon will autocraft everything at once which greatly reduces legwork

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  • Androconium
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    I just started doing writs on my crafting alt lately, but I was wondering if I should max the rest of my characters' crafting to do writs on them also. What do you guys do?

    I do them on one.
    I get the hirelings on the others
  • Beardimus
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    I just started doing writs on my crafting alt lately, but I was wondering if I should max the rest of my characters' crafting to do writs on them also. What do you guys do?

    Depends on your play time.

    I do them on one daily, that's like 90k income. If you have the time to do on all toons that's a mill a month plus all the mats etc.

    I don't have that luxury of time.when i play i wanna play so one guy is my max. And you can make bigger money faster by doing some decent trading.

    In events like the writ events people go insane and do on all alts to bur out and honnestly any form of grinding bores me, i play to have fun.

    So it depends on your time and motives
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  • SirCassiusClay
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    commdt wrote: »

    9. To craft master writs you can use Dolgubon again. Just right click on every writ and select "craft", dont take the quest yet! Then the addon will autocraft everything at once which greatly reduces legwork

    I didn't know about this. Will save me a lot of time. Thanks :)
  • Minyassa
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    I've been working on maxing out all 15 of my toons since last year's anniversary, with mixed feelings at different times. If you leave their skills on Tier 1, they don't produce high-tier mats with their hirelings, BUT they use up a full day's allotments of top tier mats. It's been a bit of a dance as I got some leveled up and others still on lower tiers, trying to keep from running out of mats and having to farm constantly lately just to make my daily writs (I refuse to buy from farmers, they are the ones making it take longer for me to just get my own dang stuff). However, in the next update they are going to be making changes to the mats that we get as rewards from daily writs, and I think that will ease that problem.

    EVEN with the trouble keeping up with mats, it's been worth it to me in dreugh waxes, chromium grains and other high-level drops; I stopped paying attention for a few months and discovered to my surprise I had several hundred dreugh wax, for instance. It's also about 75k gold (maybe more) per day steady income once your toons are all leveled over 50, I'll find out when mine all are. I've been looking forward to the anniversary event since last year's, though. That will be my real test of how worth it it's been.
  • DaveMoeDee
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    idk wrote: »
    Writs are a great source of income. While I do writs on 4 characters pretty much every day most character are maxed. During one of the events we get rewards for each quest or repeatable quest and the writs count. I think that is the anniversary event but not totally sure.

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  • DaveMoeDee
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    One thing to remember is that gold rewards are based on character level. Low level writs are guaranteed profit if you are level 50+. That is not necessarily true if you are level 6.

    Also, stockpile consumables in your bank and craft them on a character with the 4x passive. By stockpiling potions and food/drink, you can completely avoid crafting those. If you have Lazy Writ Crafter, it can just pull the consumables you need from the bank.
  • Crafts_Many_Boxes
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    One thing to remember is that gold rewards are based on character level. Low level writs are guaranteed profit if you are level 50+. That is not necessarily true if you are level 6.

    Also, stockpile consumables in your bank and craft them on a character with the 4x passive. By stockpiling potions and food/drink, you can completely avoid crafting those. If you have Lazy Writ Crafter, it can just pull the consumables you need from the bank.

    I tried this, and didn't care for it. The problem is that I was taking up ~50 bank slots with consumables. There are additional addons that auto-craft prov and alch writs, I just use those. I would rather run up and interact with those extra 2 stations most days than take up so many bank slots that I've got filled to the brim with gear haha.
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    The trick is finding the happy medium where you feel like you get benefit without it becoming a chore.

    If you place extra points as you have them, you at least always have the opportunity available should you wish it.

    FTR, provisioning (and I believe alchemy) are the only two that actually don't require direct crafting by the character in question. You can make stacks of food (the specifics repeat) on your main, and simply withdraw and turn in on alts.
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

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  • Inklings
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    100% yes. The amount of gold you will make from doing maxed out writs with characters set up for a good master writ drop % will almost triple what you will make doing lower level ones. Here is a post i made from an older thread asking the same questions you are.

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    I do writs on 30 characters a day and this is my weekly sales from just items i sell from writs. On top of this i make another 976,080 gold from the quest turn ins. So in total i pull in 2.5 million average every week. Thats almost an average of 12k gold per character a day just for logging in each character 2 minutes a day. On top of this i have netted myself an insane amount of gold mats. I keep a personal stock of 3k of each gold upgrade material.

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    So yes, writs can net you 10k per character daily if you understand how they work and how to take advantage of them. I often stream writs and go in depth about the numbers surrounding them. If your interested in learning i got spread sheets and guides that i give out during stream on how to power level professions cheep and easy to get people set up to start making lots of gold. I'm part of the ESO stream team and a link to my twitch page can be found on the official site. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54631
  • West1389
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    So would I need to max out the crafting skill lines on all the alts? Sorry not very familiar with master writs.
  • Tan9oSuccka
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    In my opinion, outside of surveys and the gold, no.

    If you don’t know a pile of motifs, the master writ values are crap. (In my experience).
  • FrancisCrawford
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    In my opinion, outside of surveys and the gold, no.

    If you don’t know a pile of motifs, the master writ values are crap. (In my experience).

    A lot of master writs right now (on PC/NA) are at the point where I'm not sure they're worth the trouble to do. I AM doing them when I need to clear inventory space, but I'm not jumping through hoops to train up my alts in various traits to maximize the master writ drop rates.

    That said, I'm hoarding all my enchanting master writs for rapid leveling of character skill lines during double XP events. For the New Life Festival I just did that for one character, using alchemy writs, but I also missed much of the festival due to holiday travel. I'll do more the next time there's an XP event for which I'm actually around.
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