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Is it worth maxing crafting on all alts for writs?

Parthrax0923
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I just started doing writs on my crafting alt lately, but I was wondering if I should max the rest of my characters' crafting to do writs on them also. What do you guys do?
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  • ankeor
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    I do writs on 8 chars. 9th is on the way. Altough I have to admit it is really time consuming.
  • Verbal_Earthworm
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    I use my alts as lesser crafters who support my master crafter.

    They do the daily crafting quests to get more surveys and materials.

    Their crafting skills are maxed but only the keen eye and hireling passives are taken.

    I don't think it's worth the skillpoints/time to get them all doing master writs,

    but i may change my mind if the drop rate improves.
  • Nestor
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    I do max level writs on like 3 of my alts, the rest are all Tier 1. This way, they get all the mats they need for the writs from the writs.

    I am not chasing Gold Tempers, so it works for me. I also have no real need for Master Writs as I have all the things I can buy with WVs.
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  • Starlock
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    Biggest question to ask yourself is if you want to waste... ahem... invest your time in that. Personally, I can't comprehend investing time doing crafting dailies for all of my characters unless there is an event going on that gives extra bonuses. I have better things to do.
  • Stebarnz
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    Depends how you play the game, writs give money, mats and xp every single day but it takes a bit of time.
    If you wanna just login and button bash don't bother with writs, if you wanna login and invest some time on bettering your account writs are a good way to do that.
  • phileunderx2
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    My alts just do level 1 equipment writs. I'm just after surveys pretty much.
  • p00tx
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    I max the crafting levels of all of my characters because it's easier to transmute a piece or improve gear quality when you get a new gear drop for it, rather than having to transfer the piece to your bank or a chest, then log onto your crafter to do it. You only need to research the salient skills too, so it's not that bad (impen and infused on PvP toons and divines/infused for PvE toons). I also max their cooking and alchemy to make it easier to keep my potion habit well-fed.
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  • Veinblood1965
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    I just started my second toon, my main is maxed in everything. I toss all my inspiration, green and blue armor etc to him and decon for the gains in crafting and doesn't take all that long, I started my new toon a week ago and am almost 30 in all crafts just doing that, I park him in my main house with my crafting stations and when I log him on I just decon then go about my business.

    I'm not going to do daily crafting quests on both however that would drive me batty but I am going to put points into hirelings and maybe keen eye as once in a while you get something good from the hirelings. Once I get to 50 in JC I'll probably do that writ for the chromium grains but maybe not, haven't decided yet.
  • Ertosi
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    Why not? Researching crafting only takes a moment to set up, then it's just a waiting game. Sure, the last few traits take forever to learn, but waiting for a timer is easy if you're thinking long-term. Gathering the Skill Points to support max crafting can take a while longer to complete, but that's why I get my alts set up researching asap. So if you plan on sticking around the game for a while, why not max crafting? And once you have one master crafter, it gets much easier to elevate all of your other alts to that level; just have your master make whatever they might need and toss it in your bank for them.

    I currently have 7 alts that have maxed all crafting skills to do master writs. I have another four that are just about ready to join them. Then I have another four that I just got started who are ages away from being ready, but have been getting their researching taken care of; research is more hands on when they're just getting started as you have to check each one daily rather than weekly. I find it easier to train up alts in clusters like that as small groups are easier to manage everything at once.

    Really, it just boils down to a few questions:
    • Do you like crafting?
    • Do you like having alts?
    • Are you planning on sticking around?

    Edit: Unlike most of what I hear other players do, I do not like to level my crafting by doing the lower-tier writs. I never touch writs until I'm ready to do the max tier ones (saves you the effort of chasing low tier resources needed, which can get costly). While you're questing or doing your other game stuff, toss everything you get in the bank. Max level stuff is best for this. Decon it all on the alts you're training up. By the time you've finished getting the Skill Points needed for one to be set up, the next alt will have reached 50 in many of their crafting skills (Blacksmithing, Clothier, and Woodworking). They'll be off to a good start for Enchanting and Jewelry Crafting, but to hit 50 on those, you'll need your main crafter to make a bunch of max level purp runes and Platinum Rings and bank 'em, then finish getting your next alt up to 50 on those. Don't worry about Alchemy or Provisioning until you have gathered enough Skill Points to rank those up at once; they're super easy to get up to 50 in minutes as long as you have the Skill Points ready.
    Edited by Ertosi on January 28, 2019 6:23PM
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  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    100% Yes!

    First, why wouldnt you just do it anyway. Even if you arent aggressive about power leveling your crafting lines, just put any spare gear into your bank and decon with a toon that is not max leveled. You will level alts fast enough. Also, the more writs you do, the more intricate mats you collect, so it tends to snow ball after your first few toons. I have every craft but jewelry crafting maxed on all 15 toons, with JC leveled on 10. Leveling number 15 was MUCH faster than leveling number 2, if that makes sense. 67 skill points will allow you to do all 7 max tier writs, max all hireling, and slot rapid maneuvers. So even if you just power level a few toons to park for a while, they will be able to do writs for you.

    Second, there is not a more efficient means of creating wealth in this game than doing crafting writs. With a little practice and planning, you can do writs on 8-10 toons in less than duration of a 30 minute sitcom. It is not a git rich quick scheme, but if you are in it for the long haul and want to devote 20-30 miuntes a day to making money, writs are the best answer.

    Third, its obviously more than money. I simply never buy gold mats in this game and have 100's of pieces of gold gear and thousands of gold mats. I also have more soul gems and repair kits than I could ever possibly use. Myy craft bag has an MM value well into 8 figures, and my bank account is also in the same range. I NEVER buy gold mats, and do nothing else to make gold. Simply put, nothing will make you as self sufficient as doing writs.

    If I had to start from scratch tomorrow in this game, the first thing I would do is power level 2 toons of each class and start doing writs, you know, assuming I didnt want to be poor. Haha.
  • Crafts_Many_Boxes
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    I max mine out for the gold tempers. To this day, I don't think I've ever bought gold upgrade mats, and I've got dozens of sets in gold and have done thousands of vouchers worth of master writs. That being said, it's a big time investment to get all your toons enough skill points to pull it off. I've been playing for 2-2.5ish years now, and a significant portion of those 2500ish hours are just farming skyshards and public dungeons on alts.

  • Joosef_Kivikilpi
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    55k a day with 12 characters + surveys and gold material.
  • fgoron2000
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    55k a day with 12 characters + surveys and gold material.

    i'll do you 3 better...about 67k on 15 characters. Also, if you have access to Summerset, do the writs at the Alinor stations, they're all clustered together in one huge room (including cooking fire and jewelry station) and amazingly easy to go through quickly. They're also close to the writ turn-in location. Beyond that, both bank and Wayshrine are not far away either. Also, if you're on a PC, use Dolgubon's Lazy Writ Crafter addon. With that, you can not only automate 5 of the 7 stations (all but alchemy and provisioning), but the automation will complete each individual writ faster than you can do it manually. The addon can also optionally auto-open the writ rewards as you get them, for more time saving. With these couple steps, the worst part of the process becomes the loading screens between chars...

    PS: one final tip. If you do them every other day, you can do two day's worth of writs at a time. Each char will take a little bit longer, but much less than double the time, because you're only doing the writs twice, but you're still doing single loadscreens on each character, and only every other day. This will save more time too.

  • Matchimus
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    Depends on time available to you and will it take u away from you actually enjoy doing in game. Personally, once is enough. Repeatative behaviour sucks the fun out. I go for variety. I play for a few hours each day and by the time I have done a bit of this and a bit of that...my day is over.
  • fgoron2000
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    Matchimus wrote: »
    Depends on time available to you and will it take u away from you actually enjoy doing in game. Personally, once is enough. Repeatative behaviour sucks the fun out. I go for variety. I play for a few hours each day and by the time I have done a bit of this and a bit of that...my day is over.


    understood, and that's also a matter of personal preference...it's generally best to do what you enjoy in the game...among other things, i'm a hoarder from the stand-alone games, so this particular repetitive behavior doesn't suck the fun out at all...for me...

  • Danikat
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    I have 1 dedicated crafter who does writs most days and I completed the certification on my other characters just because otherwise every single time I went into a town where it was available I thought it was an actual quest I'd missed and kept going to check it out and then realising it was crafting.

    But my time is usually very limited and even with the advice given here if I tried to do writs on every character every day I'd almost never do anything else, which makes it somewhat pointless. That and I don't like putting skill points into crafting when they could be used for something else.
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  • Jamdarius
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    I just started doing writs on my crafting alt lately, but I was wondering if I should max the rest of my characters' crafting to do writs on them also. What do you guys do?

    I do on all 8 toons everyday, u get mats - gold - writs - empty soul gems - intricates - surveys...

    Next updates I heard we will get our lvl mats for doing master writs so it sounds better than ever.

    Remember doing writs on all 8 toons will give you more than 200k weekly (remember u need to have them on lvl 50 regardless of their crafting skills level, you still get same gold ammount).
  • Matchimus
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    Jamdarius wrote: »
    I just started doing writs on my crafting alt lately, but I was wondering if I should max the rest of my characters' crafting to do writs on them also. What do you guys do?

    I do on all 8 toons everyday, u get mats - gold - writs - empty soul gems - intricates - surveys...

    Next updates I heard we will get our lvl mats for doing master writs so it sounds better than ever.

    Remember doing writs on all 8 toons will give you more than 200k weekly (remember u need to have them on lvl 50 regardless of their crafting skills level, you still get same gold ammount).

    On average how long does it take u to do this each day? (I have an idea with the one lot I do...but that isn't including time farming the mats)
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    I do all 15 of my chars every other day so I don't have to bother with the writs every day since each day is a new set, but yeah its definitely worth it around 4.2k per char a day in gold + whatever writs and gold mats you get
  • Starlock
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    Matchimus wrote: »
    Jamdarius wrote: »
    I just started doing writs on my crafting alt lately, but I was wondering if I should max the rest of my characters' crafting to do writs on them also. What do you guys do?

    I do on all 8 toons everyday, u get mats - gold - writs - empty soul gems - intricates - surveys...

    Next updates I heard we will get our lvl mats for doing master writs so it sounds better than ever.

    Remember doing writs on all 8 toons will give you more than 200k weekly (remember u need to have them on lvl 50 regardless of their crafting skills level, you still get same gold ammount).

    On average how long does it take u to do this each day? (I have an idea with the one lot I do...but that isn't including time farming the mats)

    It's going to vary. Time how long it takes to do it yourself. Upstream, someone claimed they could do it in less than half an hour. They must have fantastically fast load times and fantastically fast internet.
  • Mancombe_Nosehair
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    They key thing is the level of the character, not the skill level. You will run out of mats pretty quickly if they are all PvP 50 in skill.
  • Taloros
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    The question is a question of taste, so no clear answer can be given. But I'll state my opinion:

    I learned of writs after levelling 13 alts to max level and crafting. Yes, I'm a slow learner sometimes. Then I learned of writs and started doing them on each character each day.

    Positive effects:
    + Earned myself some millions of gold and tons of crafting materials via rewards and maps.

    Negative effects:
    - Lost fun in the game. To me, it's a soul-draining routine to log in, take quests, log out, go to 10. It soked my game time and patience. Quit running dungeons and questing, barely logged in for a month or so for "writ detox". Worked, haven't done a writ since, but I still don't like
    the game as much as before.
    - Felt forced to spend endless hours to get the materials from the maps you get.
    - Cannot spend the gold and mats on anything, as I don't really want or need anything I can buy or craft and haven't bought or crafted already, excluding hugely inflated prices for some motifs I wouldn't use anyhow.

    IF you consider doing the writ routine, get some mods to help with that, esp. the lazy writ mod, and a banker NPC. It reduces the whole process to mindless clicking and speeds up the process a lot. Doing it without is very, very tedious. As in very tedious.
    For the material maps: Wait until you get several maps of the same kind. Ride to the spot. Collect mats. Ride 100 m or so away - you can collect it again. No need to change maps as I initially thought.

    But I'd advise against getting hooked on writs in the first place. There are a lot of things more fun in this game.
    Edited by Taloros on January 28, 2019 9:48PM
  • SirCassiusClay
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    They key thing is the level of the character, not the skill level. You will run out of mats pretty quickly if they are all PvP 50 in skill.

    I think they want to change that with update 21 so you mostly get mats for your crafting level. I'm not sure if that will be enough to sustain mats, though. We'll see.
  • DaveMoeDee
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    It is really grindy. I've done it on 15 characters for a few weeks straight before. Not only are the writs grindy, but you end up with a ton of surveys filling inventory until you do the grind of collecting. I suppose you could have a max level character collect them while doing psijic quests, collecting skyshards, and collecting lorebooks. But it isn't much fun.

    What kills me is I I probably have about 8m gold right now and a ridiculous amount of mats I could sell, but I don't spend money on anything so it just sits there. Right now I mostly find myself doing the writs on alts as part of leveling them in the craft, but I've even skipped doing that mostly.
  • Jolipinator
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    Do it in preparation for the Anniversary event, after that it's not worth it for me.
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  • pod88kk
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    If you want to do something like get all the attunanble crafting stations with each craftable set for your house then yeah it's the quickest way
  • AlboMalefica
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    Yes, I do max crafting writs on all my 14 toons. It’s time consuming (especially since I’m a peasant console player) but the rewards are worth it 😊
  • idk
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    Writs are a great source of income. While I do writs on 4 characters pretty much every day most character are maxed. During one of the events we get rewards for each quest or repeatable quest and the writs count. I think that is the anniversary event but not totally sure.
  • Loves_guars
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    Personally, no. Why? I stopped doing writs on alts simply because gathering all the surveys is a nightmare for me.

  • firedrgn
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    If u want motifs i would get your alts ready at what ever lvl u can .. get those gift boxs when anniversary event rolls around
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