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I want to scoop out my eyes with a spoon
Mashille
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It's 03:40am and I am currently levelling up the Psijic Skill Line on my characters. Who designed this progression in the skill line thought it would be engaging or fun at all, I mean really. It's like hundreds of tiny meaningless fetch quests and the complete bore / tedium of it all just discourages anyone to even try and experiment with the new skills because of how much of a chore it is to get them.
I can handle farming VMA over and over again, doing the same thing because you slowly get better and feel yourself getting more efficient at it, and you only have to do it on 1 character. There is no improvement here, no feeling of actual progression or learning. It's just a boring grindfest that makes me want to scoop out my eyes with a spoon.
Levelling up Fighters Guild, Mages Guild, getting skill points and maxing skill lines already felt like a long period to get a new character to an "acceptable" state where they an be competitive and throwing this into the mix just makes me not want to create new characters as all. It's at the point where I'm forcing myself to do it overnight as when I have free time in the day I don't want to waste it doing something ridiculously dull and boring.
I can handle farming VMA over and over again, doing the same thing because you slowly get better and feel yourself getting more efficient at it, and you only have to do it on 1 character. There is no improvement here, no feeling of actual progression or learning. It's just a boring grindfest that makes me want to scoop out my eyes with a spoon.
Levelling up Fighters Guild, Mages Guild, getting skill points and maxing skill lines already felt like a long period to get a new character to an "acceptable" state where they an be competitive and throwing this into the mix just makes me not want to create new characters as all. It's at the point where I'm forcing myself to do it overnight as when I have free time in the day I don't want to waste it doing something ridiculously dull and boring.
House Baratheon: 'Ours Is The Fury'
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ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭A bit late to that party. Everyone got their complaints out of their system months ago.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Mashille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭A bit late to that party. Everyone got their complaints out of their system months ago.
Yeah, I figured that. But I'd never gotten around to doing it due to all the people saying how dull it was. And now that I am doing it I understand what they meant.House Baratheon: 'Ours Is The Fury'8 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Geesh. Of all the stuff I've done (or tried to do) in this game, the Psijic quest line is my fav by far. It's easy. It's TARGETED - and if you can't figure out the damn maps.... there's a WEBSITE with the info.
I haven't done it on every character. I only did the entire thing on one girl, and had to have help from a friend to get through the end game boss(es) (my lag is so extreme that simple "mini boss" fights are impossible for me). I have over 20 characters: 8 who have the beginning done, which means that of course those chars can find the portals/grab the goodies for others.
I have actually enjoyed the process. The Augur is a very cool interactive, very funny. Works for me.Edited by Sylvermynx on January 28, 2019 4:53AM11 -
Att1Tude✭✭✭Can feel you. Couldn't pass over psijic level 2 in any char yet(Got 15 chars and its been a while)PC-EU
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jainiadral✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I am so so so sorry, OP. That questline has to be the worst in the game. No decent story, boring characters, the grating annoyance that is the augur
Just chat for a couple of seconds, then pick up the next fetch quest list. Over and over and over again. Zzzzz.
I haven't bothered to even do the Summerset part to unlock the portals on my Argonian. I don't think I'm going to bother to start on any future alts.2 -
TempPlayer✭✭✭✭✭Since you are on PC, the easiest way is to just use an add-on that show all the portal on map so that you don't need to "hunt" for them. Still boring but as least your eye won't bleed from switching back and fore between the map and the chart.2
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✭✭✭✭✭I like this skill line.
Way more fun than leveling Undaunted which I hate. I’d rather do Mages guild than level Undaunted again and again.
And I like the Augur so it comes down to personal preference. I can see how doing it for 15 characters may be tedious but so is Undaunted and I reckon Undaunted Mettle is far more important to any build compared to the Psijic skills.Edited by max_only on January 28, 2019 7:54AM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭A bit late to that party. Everyone got their complaints out of their system months ago.
Pretty much this.
Granted, the quests are a grind, but it is about the dialogue from the skull. Regardless, of that it seem rather extreme to suggest it wants to make one scratch their eyes out.
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✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »It's easy. It's TARGETED - and if you can't figure out the damn maps.... there's a WEBSITE with the info..
It is not the difficulty.
I also really disliked it. Took me months to get through it. The stuff is easy to find, but it's just plain BOOOOOORING.
On top of that, I found the Augur the most Annoying thing in gaming history.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The Augur is very cute! Is it the same VA as most Bosmer? Maybe that’s why I like him.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭✭✭✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »It's easy. It's TARGETED - and if you can't figure out the damn maps.... there's a WEBSITE with the info..
It is not the difficulty.
I also really disliked it. Took me months to get through it. The stuff is easy to find, but it's just plain BOOOOOORING.
On top of that, I found the Augur the most Annoying thing in gaming history.
It's not boring. And the Augur is really neat.
I'm sorry you didn't have a good experience.4 -
Finviuswe✭✭✭✭Believe me, I fully agree.
There's a reason I haven't even tried to level the skill line yet.0 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The Augur is Jar Jar Binks. I literally turned the volume off when I did that quest.6 -
Mashille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭'Tis now 6:00 am, and I an on Psijic Level 5 on the 2nd of my 6 toons. Making progress at least.
I think the part that hurts the most is because of how cool some of the skills are, that you read them and just want to have a mes around with them to see what you can do. But alas, I must wait hours by having auto run toggled on and watching youtube, engaging content indeed.House Baratheon: 'Ours Is The Fury'0 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I found the Psijic grind extremely boring. I've finished it on 5 characters. I cant bring myself to do it again. I hated it the first time around.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Queue up some new albums to listen to and just follow the website. If you got plenty of wayshrines it takes like 3 hours0 -
FlyingSwan✭✭✭✭✭I started it on one char and gave up quite soon afterwards, watching paint dry is genuinely more intellectually stimulating. In a way, I look up to ZOS for managing to make what ought to be an exciting thing - getting a new skill line - the singularly most boring thing in the game.
It's a remarkable accomplishment when you think about it; in a game full of tedious fetch quests this one goes the extra miles and really takes the biscuit.
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✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »It's easy. It's TARGETED - and if you can't figure out the damn maps.... there's a WEBSITE with the info..
It is not the difficulty.
I also really disliked it. Took me months to get through it. The stuff is easy to find, but it's just plain BOOOOOORING.
On top of that, I found the Augur the most Annoying thing in gaming history.
Hah! I used to think that about Kaliyo Djannis in SWTOR. Then I met the Augur
The only way I survived that quest was to attempt to shed my headphones once I hit the next target. I was about 25% successful. 0 -
Protossyder✭✭✭✭I don't get the problem.
It takes you less than 8 hours to grind a new char to lvl 50 while getting fighters guild to 10, find enough books to max out the mages guild, level psyjic and farm a decent amount of skyshards (the last three can all be done at the same time).
What do you want more?Edited by Protossyder on January 28, 2019 8:32AMCharacters worth mentioning:Daedrós - Magicka DK - Altmer - PvE & PvP - Emperor - IR - GH - TTTArenas: vDSA (~46k) - vMA (~586k)
Dragybor - Stamblade - Redguard - PvE (first char)
Yondaime Raikage - Stamsorc - Redguard - PvP
Zerg Overmind - Magblade - Altmer - PvE - GH
Yenari - Magsorc - Altmer - PvE - Flawless Conqueror
Devoured-his-siblings - DK Tank - Argonian - PvE - Unchained
Valkyrja Valhalla - StamDK - Redguard - PvE
Hyperion der Obere - Magplar - Altmer - PvE
Affa al'Dschinni - Stamplar - Orc - PvP
Enjoys-the-slaughter - Templar Healer - Argonian - PvE
Hades Adamastos - Stamcro - Orc - PvE
Khaba the Cruel - Magsorc- Altmer - PvP
Hekate Ourania - Magcro - Atlmer - PvE - TTT
Trials: vAA hm - vHRC hm - vSO hm - vMoL hm (~161k) - vHoF hm (~218k) - vAS+2 (~114k) - vCR+3 - vSS hm - vKA hm
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CP 810+
x Mazayee-Kajthux > lvl 50 EP | Argonian Warden Healer | Godslayer
x Margaux the Undying > lvl50 DC | Breton Templar Healer | Tick-Tock Tormentor
x Fendryn Olms >lvl 50 EP | Dunmer Necro Healer | Gryphon Heart
xCassius Pavo > lvl50 EP | Imperial Necrotank | Bringer of Light
x Haj Xal >lvl50 EP | Argonian Healblade | Immortal Redeemerx Caessia>lvl 50EP | Imperial Warden Tank | Bringer of Light
x Andre Valere >lvl 50 AD | Breton SorcTank | Gryphon Heart
x S'zhan'ir >lvl 50 EP | Khajiit StamDen| Alpha Predator
x Ri'zaad Sajhan >lvl 50 EP | Khajiit DKTank | extinguisher of flames
x Mi'ra-Do>lvl 50EP | Khajiit magPlar | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor
x Minwe Elsinor>lvl 50EP | Altmer MagDen | Dovahkriid
x Velen Dres > lvl50 EP | Dunmer Magcro | Voice of Reason
x Perathea > lvl50 AD | Argonian MagDK
x Myvth >lvl 50 EP | Dunmer StamDK | Plague of Peryite
x Nephaal Telvanni > lvl50 EP | dunmer MagSorc | Voice of Reason
x Ko'haana > lvl50 AD | Khajiit Magsorc
x Zasha gra-Lashk > lvl50 EP | Orc Stamcro
xCassius Pavo > lvl50 EP | Imperial Necrotank | Bringer of Light< We are Undaunted >3 -
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✭✭Protossyder wrote: »I don't get the problem.
It takes you less than 8 hours to grind a new char to lvl 50 while getting fighters guild to 10, find enough books to max out the mages guild, level psyjic and farm a decent amount of skyshards (the last three can all be done at the same time).
What do you want more?
Its just because it's mindnumbing busy work for some people. You're either closing rifts or chasing light orbs to dig up something. While those are deffinatly not tedious to do, the fact that you only do that the entire time just isn't fun. I just don't understand why they made it a grind instead of something more exciting. You are correct that Fighters Guild, Mages, Skyshards etc are a grind as well.which some people may find boring still do it.
ZoS advertised heavily on joing the Psijic Order, and made the process of doing so lackluster.Edited by D0PAMINE on January 28, 2019 8:43AM1 -
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✭It is painfully boring the second time around and onwards. I'm on my fifth alt now and make sure to collect all the skyshards and lorebooks while I do so. It breaks the monotony and kills 3 birds with one stone. It must be an unimaginable grind for the console players without addons.0 -
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✭For folks who want everything now.. yeah this one's gonna be a pain"One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star."
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