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What do you mean with lag?
Tapio75
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I just wanted to ask, since the trend seems to be, that todays players tend to mix lag with bad FPS.
Lag is usually caused by network problems or server structure problems. Bad FPS is bad FPS cause by low end machine or too high video settings. Also numer of addons may cause this.
At least this is how it is in simplified terms.
Just wanted to talk about this, since it is very important to tell the difference between these two when reporting issues and complaining about performance issues.
Lag is usually caused by network problems or server structure problems. Bad FPS is bad FPS cause by low end machine or too high video settings. Also numer of addons may cause this.
At least this is how it is in simplified terms.
Just wanted to talk about this, since it is very important to tell the difference between these two when reporting issues and complaining about performance issues.
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✭✭✭✭✭Nice, but totally ignores the lag problems on console that has no video settings or adjustments to fps or add on's for that matter.
I have a ps4 pro and the fastest Internet speeds provided by my state...still hit lag. Especially in Cyrodiil when there's more that 10 players on screen.
Also, there are streamers who show gameplay on PC with incredible machines and they also run into lag at times.
I understand the struggles of trying to run high performance on a potato machine...but the issue is so wide spread that it's not some isolated incidents. It's across all three platforms.
Also, Zos in a round about way admitted the servers had issues when they spoke about performance and all the improvements and changes won't mean much if server stability wasn't improved in the last ESO live.
That tells you right there the server problems are real and known by Zos. By thier own words, issues about performance are real. No need to try and dismiss them because you might not see an issue. They wouldn't have made that statement if it wasn't an actual problem.Edited by Kel on January 27, 2019 8:42PM1 -
mxxo✭✭✭✭I just wanted to ask, since the trend seems to be, that todays players tend to mix lag with bad FPS.
Lag is usually caused by network problems or server structure problems. Bad FPS is bad FPS cause by low end machine or too high video settings. Also numer of addons may cause this.
At least this is how it is in simplified terms.
Just wanted to talk about this, since it is very important to tell the difference between these two when reporting issues and complaining about performance issues.
Bad Fps is not only caused by low end machines or too high video settings. A badly optimised game lowers fps, too, and is able to cause lag-like effects.3 -
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✭I just wanted to ask, since the trend seems to be, that todays players tend to mix lag with bad FPS.
Lag is usually caused by network problems or server structure problems. Bad FPS is bad FPS cause by low end machine or too high video settings. Also numer of addons may cause this.
At least this is how it is in simplified terms.
Just wanted to talk about this, since it is very important to tell the difference between these two when reporting issues and complaining about performance issues.
Indeed. My apologies. I often forget that we are all in the same forum
@Kel
True that. Thats why we should use traceroute and other tools too to separate the problems. I think the infamous ability delay, could be example of lag like effect which is actually a problem within the code itself.>>PC-EU Mostly PVE. Played since BETA<<0 -
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This, simply solution is to reduce grapic settings / effects in Cyrodil and trials. especially AoE effectsNice, but totally ignores the lag problems on console that has no video settings or adjustments to fps or add on's for that matter.
I have a ps4 pro and the fastest Internet speeds provided by my state...still hit lag. Especially in Cyrodiil when there's more that 10 players on screen.
Also, there are streamers who show gameplay on PC with incredible machines and they also run into lag at times.
I understand the struggles of trying to run high performance on a potato machine...but the issue is so wide spread that it's not some isolated incidents. It's across all three platforms.
Also, Zos in a round about way admitted the servers had issues when they spoke about performance and all the improvements and changes won't mean much if server stability wasn't improved in the last ESO live.
That tells you right there the server problems are real and known by Zos. By thier own words, issues about performance are real. No need to try and dismiss them because you might not see an issue. They wouldn't have made that statement if it wasn't an actual problem.
Lag is 3 things,
server lag: had so much lag during first part of HrC some days ago we had to leave and reform group, no this was before we was in combat.
Server lag will still happen if you are alone out of combat in Cyrodil.
Connection lag, players in Australia suffer from this a lot, also if you have an bad wireless connection or low bandwidth is also used for other stuff, this affect dummy parses in you house.
Client lag as client has to render lots of stuff, you get lag in cities with lots of players.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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✭terrannova wrote: »Log into vivec EU right now to see what lag is, smart guy
It migt actually be both on cases like these. In populated areas ZOS has allowed too many players in one instance of the world which cause bad FPS. Most likely because the engine needs to render the,m all, visible or not. At least this is my assumption.
I have not checked ping today the5e or anything else since i have been playing elsewhere, but i have yet to find any actual network lag in these cases. Just too many people allowed in one instance. Also requires more processor power than GPU. This engine has a problem with large numbers of players in one instance.>>PC-EU Mostly PVE. Played since BETA<<0
