Stam Dk DD question for next patch

CaliMade · January 2019

Lemme start off by saying Im not a PvE player, i play Exclusively PvP and Only go to PvE for the necessities and gear.

Back when Maelstrom Dw was BiS in PvE i Enjoyed Running vMSA on my Stam dk with the Dual weild rapid strikes rotation. I feel that if the PvE Meta was still here i would enjoy pve alot more than i do currently.

My Question is, with the proposed Redguard changes next patch, is it possible for vMSA DW to become viable in Endgame PvE again?

I was under the impression that they were dropped because you couldn’t sustain the build needed to Run optimal damage anymore after Morrowind. this true?

SaintSubwayy · January 2019

yes it will be viable again, but you have to play a certain build to a certain degree, else its not viable.

5pcs Daedly Strike, 5pcs Relequen (may be changeable with other sets) and vMA weapons front and backbar.

Daedly strike is IMO the core of the build, since stamDK has so many dots, and most of them can be buffed by vMA DW

You will have to play a pretty static rotation aswell, to make maximum use of the weapons.

and yes it is sustainable, especially on redguard you should have no trouble at all when running solo content.
also Orc is pretty good, since you use a lot of weapon skills, the sustain passive will proc often.

Masel · January 2019

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

yes it will be viable again, but you have to play a certain build to a certain degree, else its not viable.

5pcs Daedly Strike, 5pcs Relequen (may be changeable with other sets) and vMA weapons front and backbar.

Daedly strike is IMO the core of the build, since stamDK has so many dots, and most of them can be buffed by vMA DW

You will have to play a pretty static rotation aswell, to make maximum use of the weapons.

and yes it is sustainable, especially on redguard you should have no trouble at all when running solo content.
also Orc is pretty good, since you use a lot of weapon skills, the sustain passive will proc often.

Adding to this: enchantments inherit the damage type of the skill they get procced by. So if a dot procs your enchant, it will benefit from deadly strike as well.

zvavi · January 2019

Masel wrote: »

Adding to this: enchantments inherit the damage type of the skill they get procced by. So if a dot procs your enchant, it will benefit from deadly strike as well.

vMA DW only buffs single target dots. While single target dots don't trigger enchantments. Therefore you are misguiding.

Also I don't even know where you got that information from (the inherit part). Can I please see a source?

Vapirko · January 2019

That would be cool. I acquired a vMA dagger/axe about a minute before they were no longer BiS. Man was I bummed. They’ve been sitting around ever since and it always felt like such a shame. I’d love it if those were good again.

Masel · January 2019

zvavi wrote: »

Masel wrote: »

Adding to this: enchantments inherit the damage type of the skill they get procced by. So if a dot procs your enchant, it will benefit from deadly strike as well.

vMA DW only buffs single target dots. While single target dots don't trigger enchantments. Therefore you are misguiding.

Also I don't even know where you got that information from (the inherit part). Can I please see a source?

I was talking about deadly strike, not cruel flurry. So how am I misleading?

It's easily testable. Put down endless hail with no points in thaumaturge and observe the enchant damage you have on the bow.

Then put points into it and observe the damage again. You'll see that enchantments benefit from thaumaturge whenever they are procced from a ground aoe, and therefore are considered a DoT I that case. Do the same with light attacks and it will scale with Master at Arms.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · January 2019

Masel wrote: »

zvavi wrote: »

Masel wrote: »

Adding to this: enchantments inherit the damage type of the skill they get procced by. So if a dot procs your enchant, it will benefit from deadly strike as well.

vMA DW only buffs single target dots. While single target dots don't trigger enchantments. Therefore you are misguiding.

Also I don't even know where you got that information from (the inherit part). Can I please see a source?

I was talking about deadly strike, not cruel flurry. So how am I misleading?

It's easily testable. Put down endless hail with no points in thaumaturge and observe the enchant damage you have on the bow.

Then put points into it and observe the damage again. You'll see that enchantments benefit from thaumaturge whenever they are procced from a ground aoe, and therefore are considered a DoT I that case. Do the same with light attacks and it will scale with Master at Arms.

Wish that bug would get fixed, would help procing sets that need to have direct damage for the proc chance, like scathing mage.